Once a Catholic, always a Catholic.

The Agogo

Posted in another forum . Let's hear the rabble of After Hours though!

Personally, I think its disgraceful. But then again...it doesn't really affect me (yet!)

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Terry

I'm sure there's something under the FOI act which will allow people access to their records.

fontanalis

If there can be Canon Law, can I make up Fuji Law or Flying Spaghetti Monster Law?

Overheal

Thats fine, they'll just have a lot more Atheists/Zionists/Muslims/Hindu/Bhuddist/Protestant followers in the Catholic Church now.

Revolution9

Great. let's campaign for a new law.
Once a Nazi, always a Nazi.
Guess the Pope is f*cked.

orourkeda

fontanalis wrote: »

If there can be Canon Law, can I make up Fuji Law or Flying Spaghetti Monster Law?

Who is stopping you?

It pays to certify stupidity.

As a matter of interest do you bellitle the religious beliefs of everybody or do you reserve your attempts at stand up for the catholic church.

mikemac

And there was me thinking every action in the world, good or evil was down to "free will"

I don't see free will to follow your own path here. Been suspended

KeithAFC

Im happy im not a catholic with that church.

orourkeda

The most sensible approach would be to avoid baptising your child and allow them to opt in or out when they grow up as they can make an informed choice if they want to choose catholicism

JohnathanM

Why does this actually matter though, outside of the incredible nerve of it? Seems like a pretty desperate move to me and does anybody actually pay attention to the membership numbers Fuerher Ratzinger spouts, anyhow as the Church slides into irrelevance?

Ratzinger might do well to spend more time asking why so many actually bothered taking the time to be officially marked off, given that he's largely responsible.

Revolution9

Let's all rally behind Ian Paisley in our hatred of the backwards and anti-progressive Catholic Church.

Maybe then he'll realise we're a rather nice bunch after all and let us have our 6 counties back.

Stinicker

Once you go Catholic, you never go back.

The Agogo

Terry wrote: »

I'm sure there's something under the FOI act which will allow people access to their records.

What then? Just buy some tippex?

orourkeda

Revolution9 wrote: »

Great. let's campaign for a new law.
Once a Nazi, always a Nazi.
Guess the Pope is f*cked.

I'm not stating that being a nazi is anything to be proud of but how many people have done things in their youth that they perhaps regret in later life.

krudler

"I'd like to leave the church please!"

"computer says no.."

krudler

orourkeda wrote: »

I'm not stating that being a nazi is anything to be proud of but how many people have done things in their youth that they perhaps regret in later life.

I stuck chewing gum to a classmates hair once, kinda drew the line at being part of the Hitler Youth though.

JohnathanM

orourkeda wrote: »

I'm not stating that being a nazi is anything to be proud of but how many people have done things in their youth that they perhaps regret in later life.

Wow.

Poor Uncle Tom

What if you get fed up with licking cats?

mikemac

Ratzinger was conscripted into the Nazi Youth, required to be there by law.
I don't see how anyone can hold that against him, he was only 14 at the time

At 14, who here would take a stand and refuse
Sure it was 1941, what else can you do? Go into hiding or try to skip into Switzerland?

krudler

JohnathanM wrote: »

Why does this actually matter though, outside of the incredible nerve of it? Seems like a pretty desperate move to me and does anybody actually pay attention to the membership numbers Fuerher Ratzinger spouts, anyhow as the Church slides into irrelevance?

Ratzinger might do well to spend more time asking why so many actually bothered taking the time to be officially marked off, given that he's largely responsible.

Indeed, its nice that the churches priorities dont lie with addressing the reasons WHY people are leaving in droves, just preventing them from doing it.

My name is URL

Well I don't think that I would have bothered officially defecting anyway because I don't really acknowledge the RCC to have any authority over me.. but I can't believe they've gone to the extent of disallowing it. It's a sign that the Church is dying if anything

Revolution9

feelingstressed wrote: »

Ratzinger was conscripted into the Nazi Youth, required to be there by law.
I don't see how anyone can hold that against him, he was only 14 at the time

At 14, who here would take a stand and refuse

I was forced to make my communion and conformation.

I regret it.

The Catholic Church still holds it against me though.

orourkeda

Surely a motivating factor for religious belief is that you believe in the message it preaches rather than mistakes that were made its administrators.

JohnathanM

feelingstressed wrote: »

Ratzinger was conscripted into the Nazi Youth, required to be there by law.
I don't see how anyone can hold that against him, he was only 14 at the time

At 14, who here would take a stand and refuse

I understand that completely, but it's a handy stick to beat him with when you get bored of the protecting paedophiles stick. Or the stick for his opinions on science, and his moves against it within the Church.

fontanalis

orourkeda wrote: »

Who is stopping you?

It pays to certify stupidity.

As a matter of interest do you bellitle the religious beliefs of everybody or do you reserve your attempts at stand up for the catholic church.

Everybodies a catholic now? Peopel can believe what they want, I just have little or no time for an organisation run by old, unmarried virgins thinking they have any credibility in lecturing people how to live in the real world.
My point about canon law was that wasn't there some instruction in it regarding the abuse cases where it seemd almost that it superceded state law? if so why is there a two tier legal system?

orourkeda

krudler wrote: »

I stuck chewing gum to a classmates hair once, kinda drew the line at being part of the Hitler Youth though.

Youre clearly being facetious about this whole thing. You should hold hand with spaghetti monster man.

Overheal

orourkeda wrote: »

I'm not stating that being a nazi is anything to be proud of but how many people have done things in their youth that they perhaps regret in later life.

I know you're trying hard to defend your Pope, but that really takes the biscuit sir.

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orourkeda wrote: »

Surely a motivating factor for religious belief is that you believe in the message it preaches rather than mistakes that were made its administrators.

Oh wait, now you're backpedaling? lol, which is it. You either disagree with the RCC leadership or you think being a Nazi was just a case of "Boys will be boys and commit acts of genocide"

D-Generate

I am somewhat happy I am still enrolled on some Catholic list although i stopped believing eons ago. It does have its advantages now that I live in England, such as if and when I decide to have kids they have a golden ticket to a Catholic school which are very highly regarded in England. A lot of parents over here would love to be able to convert so that they could send their kids to a Catholic school!

Kess73

Who cares what that joke organisation says is canon.

They just change their own rules to suit themselves, and rarely follow the teachings of their own "bible" anyway.

orourkeda

fontanalis wrote: »

Everybodies a catholic now? Peopel can believe what they want, I just have little or no time for an organisation run by old, unmarried virgins thinking they have any credibility in lecturing people how to live in the real world.
My point about canon law was that wasn't there some instruction in it regarding the abuse cases where it seemd almost that it superceded state law? if so why is there a two tier legal system?

You've misunderstood what I said. Read it again.

Additionally, do you honestly think the legal system is only two tiered when it comes to the catholic church alone? That's a completely different issue and spreads beyond the RCC.

Joey the lips

TBH i though the website a farce. A type of emporers new clothes so to speak

If i am not a catholic i am not a catholic and thats it... I will have it removed from my status and no one will stop me...


So tbh now that the novelty is over i am not surprised the website is suspended.

dvpower

orourkeda wrote: »

Youre clearly being facetious about this whole thing. You should hold hand with spaghetti monster man.

He doesn't have hands. He has noodely appendages. If your going to criticise someones religion at least get your facts straight.;)

Overheal

dvpower wrote: »

He doesn't have hands. He has noodely appendages. If your going to criticise someones religion at least get your facts straight.;)

Furthermore the Spaghetti Monster is not a mere man. Sauce be upon him.

orourkeda

Overheal wrote: »

I know you're trying hard to defend your Pope, but that really takes the biscuit sir.

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Oh wait, now you're backpedaling? lol, which is it. You either disagree with the RCC leadership or you think being a Nazi was just a case of "Boys will be boys and commit acts of genocide"

I'm not defending the pope. The suggestion that he participated in acts of genocide though is a touch dramatic isn't it. If you can show me that he was involved in mass murder I'd love to see it. As I mentioned earlier I doubt the fact that he was involved in this is something that he is particularly proud of but I feel it is overblown.

Overheal

orourkeda wrote: »

I'm not defending the pope.

And you shouldn't.

dotsman

orourkeda wrote: »

The most sensible approach would be to avoid baptising your child and allow them to opt in or out when they grow up as they can make an informed choice if they want to choose catholicism

Unfortunately, the vast majority of schools in this country remain in their hands. Therefore, if you want to have as much choice as possible as to what school your kids attend, it's best to dunk their heads in the water and go for dinner and a few drinks afterwards.

Until they are removed from power, they will continue to have power.

We're all going to Heaven...waheeey!

dublin daz

If you don't feel like being Catholic then just say your not Catholic. A piece of paper recorded on a historical document should not determine your faith, if any at all.

Rabble Rabble

GOd the anti-Catholic Spaghetti monster claptrap is tiresome.

AH needs a new theme.

orourkeda

Overheal wrote: »

And you shouldn't.

My point is that Roman Catholics dont have to justify their belief in their religion to anyone.

No right minded catholic can make excuses for the way their church is run or the scandals they've caused but at the same time their faith doesnt deserve to be demeaned in the way that some people here have tried to.

KeithAFC

orourkeda wrote: »

I'm not defending the pope. The suggestion that he participated in acts of genocide though is a touch dramatic isn't it. If you can show me that he was involved in mass murder I'd love to see it. As I mentioned earlier I doubt the fact that he was involved in this is something that he is particularly proud of but I feel it is overblown.

He was in 1600 to Protestants. A pope was i should add. Would not put it past that church and position.

JohnathanM

KeithAFC wrote: »

He was in 1600 to Protestants. A pope was i should add. Would not put it past that church and position.

Did he tag any real people?

Sanjuro

Pfsh. The Catholic Church can fuck off, tbh. I was baptised a Catholic, but I renounced it a few years ago. Don't go to church. Don't observe their holidays. And before Christmas is brought up, I only observe the commercialism of the holiday. The church has so little impact on my day to day life, they can claim I'm part of their 'flock,' but all that matters is that I know I'm not. This has no bearing on my life.

Rabble Rabble

orourkeda wrote: »

My point is that Roman Catholics dont have to justify their belief in their religion to anyone.

Not yet, but when we Dawkinistas get into Power there will be an end to this freedom of religious bull****! Religion is child abuse so we will ban it!!!

Mwahhhaaaaa

orourkeda

KeithAFC wrote: »

He was in 1600 to Protestants. A pope was i should add. Would not put it past that church and position.

I'm talking about Pope Benedict.

Perhaps another pope was back in the day. Are they involved in Genocide today?

krudler

orourkeda wrote: »

Youre clearly being facetious about this whole thing. You should hold hand with spaghetti monster man.

How could spaghetti have hands? evolution?

Overheal

orourkeda wrote: »

My point is that Roman Catholics dont have to justify their belief in their religion to anyone.

Nobody has said otherwise here. What are you reading

No right minded catholic can make excuses for the way their church is run or the scandals they've caused but at the same time their faith doesnt deserve to be demeaned in the way that some people here have tried to.

If it's been demeaned, its self-demeaning, when you factor in that the RCC wants to install their own laws which basically say you cannot leave the church ever.

So I guess in an abstract way, yes. This would make me question whether someone included on any sort of church-provided census data was actually a Catholic Catholic, and not someone who was Baptised when they were an infant and grew up to be an Atheist. However I'm oblivious to why you think this is a thread about validating/invalidating your Catholic beliefs? It's not.

Rabble Rabble

He was in 1600 to Protestants. A pope was i should add. Would not put it past that church and position.

Ireland has been totally taken over by a fundamentalist protestant atheism. Apparantly.

What Pope killed what protestants in 1600? What utter ahistorical claptrap are you talking about?

orourkeda

Rabble Rabble wrote: »

Not yet, but when we Dawkinistas get into Power there will be an end to this freedom of religious bull****! Religion is child abuse so we will ban it!!!

Mwahhhaaaaa

And the cycle is complete.

KeithAFC

orourkeda wrote: »

I'm talking about Pope Benedict.

Perhaps another pope was back in the day. Are they involved in Genocide today?

Yes he is. He lies about condoms, leads to deaths and doesn't give a f*ck either. He is an evil man who we should all be fighting againist for liberty and freedom.

Rabble Rabble

Overheal wrote: »

So I guess in an abstract way, yes. This would make me question whether someone included on any sort of church-provided census data was actually a Catholic Catholic, and not someone who was Baptised when they were an infant and grew up to be an Atheist. However I'm oblivious to why you think this is a thread about validating/invalidating your Catholic beliefs? It's not.

As far as I recell there is still an online form to get out. So get out and shut up.