Cavan pensioner dies after assault

up for anything · 08-10-2010 02:18AM #1

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/1007/goldenj.html

This to me is one of the saddest items in the news at the moment. The poor man seemed to have gone through hell. The papers spoke of a poker and pliers being used in the assault. What sort of bloody animal does something like this? It's made me worry for my elderly parents who live out in the country.

A post mortem examination is being carried out this afternoon on the remains of the pensioner who died following an assault in Co Cavan.

Johnny Golden, 73, died in Cavan General Hospital last night.

He had never regained consciousness following the sexual assault at his home in Doogary, near Killeshandra.

He was attacked between 8pm on 6 September and 11am the following morning.

The Deputy State Pathologist, Dr Kahlid Jabbar, is performing the post mortem examination at Our Lady's Hospital in Navan, Co Meath.

It is expected he will confirm that Mr Golden, a bachelor, died as a result of his injuries.

Gardaí will then formally upgrade this to a murder investigation.

A 17-year-old male was questioned about the incident but released without charge.

Gardaí have renewed their appeal for anyone with information or who was in the area at the time to contact them in the strictest confidence on 049-9525580 or 1800-666111.

FouxDaFaFa · 08-10-2010 02:24AM

This is disgusting. "Sick" doesn't seem to be a strong enough word to describe the person who did this. The person capable of this is not human.

My sincere sympathies to his family, I can't even imagine what they're going through.

JONJO THE MISER · 08-10-2010 02:31AM

You know sometimes you can be stuck for words, the poor man 73 years old and just trying to get by, it doesnt bear thinjking about, i think i read in one of the papers last week that the main suspect is now in the nut house, of all the crimes ive read this year this has to be one of the worst.

JONJO THE MISER · 08-10-2010 02:32AM

BotFly wrote: »

<Snip>.

:mad: if you have nothing worthy to add piss off.

BotFly · 08-10-2010 02:39AM

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

:mad: if you have nothing worthy to add piss off.

You piss off.
I'll post what I find worthy.
See you in the grief stricken for someone I didn't know forum.

Einhard · 08-10-2010 03:26AM

up for anything wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/1007/goldenj.html

This to me is one of the saddest items in the news at the moment. The poor man seemed to have gone through hell. The papers spoke of a poker and pliers being used in the assault. What sort of bloody animal does something like this? It's made me worry for my elderly parents who live out in the country.

Pretty horrific alright. When I heard there was sexual assault involved I was shocked; when I heard some of the details I was nauseated. Assuming the assailant doesn't have real psychological issues, then this is the type of crime for which life without parole is the only option.

Sharkey 10 · 08-10-2010 03:47AM

FouxDaFaFa wrote: »

This is disgusting. "Sick" doesn't seem to be a strong enough word to describe the person who did this. The person capable of this is not human.

My sincere sympathies to his family, I can't even imagine what they're going through.

The thing is that the person who carried out this horrific murder is human and thats the worrying thing and to be sure there are others like him . My sympaties go to his relatives and friends.

K-9 · 08-10-2010 03:53AM

FFS, 73.

My Dad was a couple of years older when he passed away, not aware of stuff like this, Thank God!

Mrmoe · 08-10-2010 03:53AM

That is one of the mosted ****ed up things I have read occurring in this country. I just hope he didn't suffer too much and lost consciousness early.:(:mad:

OutlawPete · 08-10-2010 04:07AM

Very very similar thing occurred in Swords back around 1990.

Women didn't die but it shook the town that a teen could do something like that to an OAP.

storm2811 · 08-10-2010 04:30AM

I knew this man personally.
He came to our house for 20 years, every Stephen's day, bringing presents, we called it "Second Christmas".:o

I really hope the fcuk that did it gets what he deserves.
For those of you who may have read the Sunday World article on him a few weeks ago, don't believe a word. The whole community was shocked when we seen it.

He really was a lovely man and he did nothing to deserve that, we were really hoping that he would pull through but it doesn't always work like that, naturally.

Sorry for the cheesiness, just putting my word in.

Novella · 08-10-2010 03:01PM

This is so sad. I have a soft spot for older people. I'm extremely close to my grandad and the thought of anything ever happening to him... ugh. I just can't comprehend how anyone could be so cruel as to do something like this. Makes me sick.

RIP.

papajimsmooth · 08-10-2010 03:07PM

I heard the suspect is a guards son, so we will see how this plays out

flanum · 09-10-2010 05:11AM

i often met this auld lad in killeshandra.. seemed like a gentleman..old school/waterproof, i dont think any human desrves the torturing he suffered at the hands of some deranged nut... not matter even if there was something dodgy happened... i dont know.. its very sad..
im glad im not related to either party... i mught make an appearance at johnnys removal... awful awful thing to happen!!

Noreen1 · 09-10-2010 12:44PM

What a horrible thing to happen. :eek:
Sincere condolences to his family and friends.

Is it just me, or does anyone else wonder how on earth a human being can even think of doing something like this, never mind actually do it?

Noreen

mikemac · 09-10-2010 12:49PM

storm2811 wrote: »

For those of you who may have read the Sunday World article on him a few weeks ago, don't believe a word.

Yep, I did read that article, pretty sensationalist and they claimed to know why it happened. Almost, like it was his own fault

I'll take the word of a local over a journalist from the Sunday World

scientific1982 · 09-10-2010 01:01PM

What the **** is wrong with some people. If anything like that happened to my family, the gardai would not be involved. Id do the time with a smile on my face.

Dr. Zeus · 09-10-2010 01:07PM

Seriously heinous crime. Poor man.

Can I ask what the Sunday Word was spinning on this? Curious.

mikemac · 09-10-2010 01:19PM

Here is the article

http://www.sundayworld.com/columnists/?aid=5703

Last night, Johnny's neighbours and friends slammed allegations that the assault may have been sparked when the gay pensioner made advances on the teenager.

Locals say he has tried to explain his horrific attack by making "disturbing allegations" that Mr Golden had made advances towards him.

But those allegations were rejected by Johnny's neighbours who said he is the victim of a smear campaign.

He's 73-years of age, we know him all his life. He's an easy target now he's lying in a hospital bed.

"Johnny has nobody, he has no family. It's a terrible thing that these things are being said about him and there's nobody to defend him.

"Why should he be blackened when he is lying in a coma?"

The truth will come out in time, headline grabbing articles that all the locals have rejected don't help anyone.

He can't even defend himself but a national paper is coming out and making allegations. Allegations when the gardaí haven't even pressed charges yet

Sunday World is a rag!

Son Of A Vidic · 09-10-2010 01:51PM

The level of evil/sickness that was involved in this attack is disturbing. Ultimately what ever sick fcuk who did this, doesn't deserve civilised treatment.

storm2811 · 09-10-2010 02:35PM

feelingstressed wrote: »

Here is the article

http://www.sundayworld.com/columnists/?aid=5703

The truth will come out in time, headline grabbing articles that all the locals have rejected don't help anyone.

He can't even defend himself but a national paper is coming out and making allegations. Allegations when the gardaí haven't even pressed charges yet

Sunday World is a rag!

It was a terrible article all right, calling his house run down and surrounded by scrap and everything.
There was even a part in it I think where they said, or someone else said that the fella who did it "just fell in with the wrong crowd".:mad:

The whole thing had me raging, and now the lad who did it checked himself into a psychiatric clinic or something, claiming to be suicidal..yeah..:rolleyes:

mal1 · 09-10-2010 02:43PM

This story is very disturbing. I definitely think there's more to it than what is being reported so i personally wouldn't throw the first stone

R P McMurphy · 09-10-2010 02:46PM

That journalist should be well ashamed of themselves. I wonder what agenda they have in writing that article. If they don't have one then it is just an example of dreadful biased writing. An absolute vulture of the highest order

Chucky the tree · 09-10-2010 02:48PM

medicman2009 wrote: »

The level of evil/sickness that was involved in this attack is disturbing. Ultimately what ever sick fcuk who did this, doesn't deserve civilised treatment.

lol.

nacho libre · 09-10-2010 02:55PM

mal1 wrote: »

This story is very disturbing. I definitely think there's more to it than what is being reported so i personally wouldn't throw the first stone

even if it is what some some people are implying turns out to be correct, there can be no excuse for what this young lad did.

feelingstressed wrote: »

Yep, I did read that article, pretty sensationalist and they claimed to know why it happened. Almost, like it was his own fault

I'll take the word of a local over a journalist from the Sunday World

sadly you can think you know someone and in some cases that illusion is never shattered, other times it is. i'm not saying that's the case here- the sunday world could well be just **** stirring, however i know from bitter personal experience people are not always as they seem.

09-10-2010 03:06PM

Another sad thing about this is that Johnny didn't have any family.. He was raised in an orphanage in Wexford I think.. He had lots of friends locally though and as a previous poster has said, those who knew him well are very quick to defend his character.

I would have met him a few times and he always came across as very harmless. A fine musician and a great mechanic.

He was gay and that was well known locally, perhaps this was a homophobic attack? Even if what the Sunday World was implying (that this was a revenge attack for inappropriate contact with the assailant at some stage in the past, and I hesitate to insult his memory by even entertaining that as a possibility) Nothing could excuse torturing a 73 year old man to death..

RIP..

goose2005 · 09-10-2010 04:31PM

Look at last night's Late Late Show, the ex-governor of Mountjoy going on about the poor prisoner getting Stork butter instead of Dairygold, poor lambs. This lad'll be out in 10 years or so, having got free education, training, TV, radio, etc. in prison.

strange john · 10-10-2010 12:35PM

papajimsmooth wrote: »

I heard the suspect is a guards son, so we will see how this plays out

What difference does that make? Do you really think there's going to be some amazing cover up? Hello, it's not like speeding ticket, an OAP was tortured and killed....doesn't matter if his dad was emperor of the planet, that boy is facing time inside, be it prison or hospital.

Dudess · 10-10-2010 12:44PM

Jesus Christ...

DB10 · 10-10-2010 01:09PM

Disgusting. Old man with nobody to defend him, to help him.

I'm not a liberal person, but could this be a homophobic attack? It seems to have played a part in there, somewhere.

Sunday World is nothing but utter scum. If they had article a few weeks ago, maybe this stirred the trouble? I've heard the rumours about this, but I would hate to think something like this is happening due to news paper rubbish or rumour.

He doesn't deserve that no matter what, but again maybe all is not as it seems as someone else put it.

Nailz · 10-10-2010 01:42PM

Speechless about this to be honest, gotta collect my thoughts on this one.

RIP

Cavan pensioner dies after assault

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