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Whipping Boy

  • 12-05-2008 4:48pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 313 ✭✭


    Why have I only found about these lads now and what happened to them? I just got the album Heartworm and it's been on repeat for the last week. Definitely the most under rated Irish band.

    We Don't need nobody else

    http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=sLT5s9eoBgo


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,401 ✭✭✭jtsuited


    Ho-Hum wrote: »
    Why have I only found about these lads now and what happened to them? I just got the album Heartworm and it's been on repeat for the last week. Definitely the most under rated Irish band.

    We Don't need nobody else

    http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=sLT5s9eoBgo

    one of my favourite albums from my early teens.

    i heard the lead singer was up to something recently enough.

    +1 on the underrated irish band point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭Howard the Duck


    I think they have turned into one of the Christmas get together bands so you might here from them come december when they need money to buy theur Kin some presents :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 Stiv


    I saw them live a couple of years back (during the summer, incidentally). Was quite drunk for much of the affair but do remember the flashing lights and the frontman dangling his flab over the front of the stage at every opportunity.

    Also notable for the horrific warm-up act Jinx Lennon, who had a pint tossed at him and spent the final five minutes of his set screaming "**** Limerick" at the audience.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    Stiv wrote: »
    I saw them live a couple of years back (during the summer, incidentally). Was quite drunk for much of the affair but do remember the flashing lights and the frontman dangling his flab over the front of the stage at every opportunity.

    Also notable for the horrific warm-up act Jinx Lennon, who had a pint tossed at him and spent the final five minutes of his set screaming "**** Limerick" at the audience.

    Was at that gig, in Dolans in Limerick. Jinx Lennon is presumably a day release patient of some sort. Still, great gig, great band. Their self titled third album is well worth checking out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 Stiv


    I think that was it, I'm not from Limerick so I dunno the name. It was in the back room of a pub, I remember.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,714 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    Their self titled third album is well worth checking out.

    I'd go for Submarine over that, personally.

    And farbeit from me to knock a free plug if you're looking for more info on the band OP, check out www.valentine69.com.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,542 ✭✭✭Captain Darling


    I saw them in the Warwick in Galway in the mid to late nineties. Ferghal came out wearing something akin to a priests collar and shirt with sexy fishnet tights and high heels. Twas mosh-tastic.

    Heartworm should have been bigger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭youcancallmeal


    I saw them at an Irish festival a few years back and they were shocking. Fearghal came out on stage wearing a motorcycle helmet :confused: It didn't get much better from there. I also heard other stories about a gig of theirs about 2 or 3 Christmases ago and Fearghal came out too drunk to sing most of the songs. I love their albums though, hopefully they might release something more in the future.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,586 ✭✭✭jaykay74


    Shame how it worked out. sometimes its hard to understand how great songs/albums just don't get out there enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,356 ✭✭✭fourmations


    Earthhorse wrote: »
    I'd go for Submarine over that, personally.QUOTE]

    me too, submarine is amazing

    rgds

    4


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,533 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    I was at that Whipping Boy gig in Limerick too. It was a good gig, but they weren't what they used to be. The new songs they played were pretty bad.

    How Jinx Lennon made it out of there alive will go down as one of the great mysteries of 21st Century Limerick.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,586 ✭✭✭jaykay74


    Just in case you haven't heard him...

    http://www.jinxlennon.com/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭youcancallmeal


    jaykay74 wrote: »
    Just in case you haven't heard him...

    http://www.jinxlennon.com/

    Thats fairly shocking stuff, I'd be embarrassed to be from Dundalk after listening to him.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,361 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    I've seen Jinx Lennon's show and spoken to him several times. My opinion of him is quite low...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,114 ✭✭✭doctor evil


    Doesn' the lead singer have Schizophrenia?, I hope he's manaing it ok.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 578 ✭✭✭30txsbzmcu2k9w


    Whipping boy - one third of the holy trinity of irish music that should have been huge in the 90s- Kerbdog and Rollerskate skinny being the other two.
    Mckee and Page were the Morrissey/Marr of irish music i reckon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,048 ✭✭✭DerekD Goldfish


    Whipping boy - one third of the holy trinity of irish music that should have been huge in the 90s- Kerbdog and Rollerskate skinny being the other two.
    Mckee and Page were the Morrissey/Marr of irish music i reckon.

    Your forgetting Fatima Mansions who also didnt acheive the recognition they deserved
    MBV were the only "Irish" band of the time that got the recognition they deserved


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,714 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    Doesn' the lead singer have Schizophrenia?, I hope he's manaing it ok.

    Eh, I don't think so.

    I know on A Natural there's a lyric where he says he's recently been diagnosed with "acute paranoid schizophrenia" but I'm pretty sure it's just that; a lyric.


  • Registered Users Posts: 462 ✭✭Ekels


    Yeah, they are bloody ace. They are hugely under-rated aren't they? By right, we should be hearing When We Were Young on day-time radio very frequently.


  • Registered Users Posts: 462 ✭✭Ekels


    Your forgetting Fatima Mansions who also didnt acheive the recognition they deserved
    MBV were the only "Irish" band of the time that got the recognition they deserved

    More recently, Turn should have achieved that.

    It's odd to think how many Irish bands had the potential........ thread coming..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭Butch Cassidy


    Earthhorse wrote: »
    Eh, I don't think so.

    I know on A Natural there's a lyric where he says he's recently been diagnosed with "acute paranoid schizophrenia" but I'm pretty sure it's just that; a lyric.


    Nope, apparently it's legit. <SNIP>

    He was working in a kitchen or something last he was seen of...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,185 ✭✭✭mosstin


    Ho-Hum wrote: »
    Why have I only found about these lads now and what happened to them? I just got the album Heartworm and it's been on repeat for the last week. Definitely the most under rated Irish band.

    We Don't need nobody else

    http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=sLT5s9eoBgo

    The most underrated Irish band is a moniker which belongs solely with anything Cathal Coughlan has ever been involved with.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,417 ✭✭✭Miguel_Sanchez


    Nope, apparently it's legit. <SNIP>

    He was working in a kitchen or something last he was seen of...


    Do not post unfounded allegations about members of the band.

    Fearghal McKee still plays music with a new band and has by no means disappeared.

    Please stop making things up about him, thanks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭Nolanger


    Ekels wrote: »
    They are hugely under-rated aren't they?
    They've appeared on a few best Irish rock album lists so in terms of actual success they actually achieved I'd say they're overrated at this stage :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭seachto7


    Whipping boy - one third of the holy trinity of irish music that should have been huge in the 90s- Kerbdog and Rollerskate skinny being the other two.
    Mckee and Page were the Morrissey/Marr of irish music i reckon.

    I would love to track down some kerbdog albums, nowhere to be found....
    I have rollerskate skinny "horsedrawn wishes", great album...


  • Registered Users Posts: 329 ✭✭ValJester


    seachto7 wrote: »
    I would love to track down some kerbdog albums, nowhere to be found....
    I have rollerskate skinny "horsedrawn wishes", great album...

    Really?I found them to be everywhere in charity shops, along with other 90's groups for whom it didn't work out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭seachto7


    must check them out...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,513 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 214 ✭✭edbrez


    Doesn' the lead singer have Schizophrenia?, I hope he's manaing it ok.
    Serves him right. He falsely announced a member of the audience at a New Inn gig in the 1990s was disabled.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭UrbanSprawl


    edbrez wrote: »
    Serves him right. He falsely announced a member of the audience at a New Inn gig in the 1990s was disabled.

    Look the dude is a legend idk maybe we shouldnt be talking about him ..if whipping boy played the workmans/NCH,played heartworm start to finish,maybe a string section and charged e100 for a ticket I would fcuking go!


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 4,726 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzovision


    Please keep it on topic. No more unfounded allegations about members of the band.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭UrbanSprawl


    Could well be true but idk its porb a bit unfair to be calling for reunions ..well aware of this bands history but they left an indelible mark on the Irish music landscape.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,352 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Please keep it on topic. No more unfounded allegations about members of the band.
    No more re-animating eight year old threads, that had the last previous post six years ago?

    Feck. I think that boy must be well and truly whipped by now... Great band in their day. Powerful live.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭UrbanSprawl


    endacl wrote: »
    No more re-animating eight year old threads, that had the last previous post six years ago?

    Feck. I think that boy must be well and truly whipped by now... Great band in their day. Powerful live.

    I agree but there is a definite lack of anything new here ..it all seems to be about auld bands making feeble comebacks and the sheep flocking along to hear it!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭Ormus


    Can any Whipping Boy experts help me to find a song I heard by them on the radio once about 20 years ago. The song started with the lyrics: "When we were kids we used to go over the back wall into old Johnny's scrapyard".

    I know it sounds like a line out of "When We Were Young", but it was a completely different song. It's definitely not on Heartworm, which I know like the back of my hand, but I've never heard any of their other stuff.

    It was a great song and I'd love to hear it again.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,714 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    That's "When We Were Young (Philo Version)". It's a poem by Phil Lynott set to the same music. It's a b-side on one of the Heartworm singles.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭Ormus


    Earthhorse wrote: »
    That's "When We Were Young (Philo Version)". It's a poem by Phil Lynott set to the same music. It's a b-side on one of the Heartworm singles.

    Excellent, thanks a million.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭UrbanSprawl


    Thanks indeed,I hadn't heard it before,puts the a-side in the shade.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3Ld7ff4VB4


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 199 ✭✭Debil


    Likewise, hadn't heard it before. Cheers!

    "Of him and the boys, poised ..."

    Savage!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭Ormus


    Debil wrote: »
    Likewise, hadn't heard it before. Cheers!

    "Of him and the boys, poised ..."

    Savage!

    Still sounds as good as when I first heard it. Beautiful lyrics.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭UrbanSprawl


    25 year anniversary Heartworm reissue on Vinyl coming soon ..I can still listen to Heartworm and say it still sounds amazing

    https://twitter.com/pagep195/status/1292048069224169472?s=20



    :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭flasher0030


    25 year anniversary Heartworm reissue on Vinyl coming soon ..I can still listen to Heartworm and say it still sounds amazing

    https://twitter.com/pagep195/status/1292048069224169472?s=20



    :cool:

    Listened to the album start to finish on road trip last Sunday. Absolutely amazing. Never tire of it. Need to get new CD though. Starting to skip. Broke my heart.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 729 ✭✭✭Granadino


    Brilliant album. People will start comparing them to the Fontaines :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭UrbanSprawl


    Granadino wrote: »
    Brilliant album. People will start comparing them to the Fontaines :p

    I actually thought Murder Capital could have being worthy successors.Their front man has that madman look in his eyes.
    Someone asked Paul Page on Twitter were was Fergal these times and he has no idea so chances of a reunion gig slim to zero.:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭flasher0030


    I actually thought Murder Capital could have being worthy successors.Their front man has that madman look in his eyes.
    Someone asked Paul Page on Twitter were was Fergal these times and he has no idea so chances of a reunion gig slim to zero.:(

    I like your taste, Urban. I think the Murder Capital debut is remarkable. I absolutely adore it. But I was trying to get my mates to listen to it. And all I got back was a "its alright". I couldn't understand it.
    He's a great frontman. I saw them along with Fontaines at some charity thing some months ago. Murder capital played about 4 songs I think.And Fontaines played about 7/8 tunes. They were good. But I'd take Murder Capital all day long.
    Your man does look like some soldier dude that could just lose his head at any moment. I'll never forget the tune Feeling Fades in the Olympia that night.

    Back on the Whipping Boy topic - would be lovely to see Fergal taking to the stage in a helmet again. I saw them when I was in college. Didn't realise at the time that I was witnessing something special.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 729 ✭✭✭Granadino


    They'd want to start coming up with their own live tv studio ideas :p Murder Capital that is.... it's like a copy of WB LLS appearance!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpqN83jQ4dc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AE-axfhMVk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭UrbanSprawl


    Granadino wrote: »
    They'd want to start coming up with their own live tv studio ideas :p Murder Capital that is.... it's like a copy of WB LLS appearance!

    Re WB Must have being difficult to perform in front of a crowd of stiffs:pac:
    Not a great choice of song by MC on that occasion ..I hope they are working on second hard hitting album.

    Some recent uploads of WB footage to youtube.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭UrbanSprawl


    Well no point harping on great band under appreaciated highy appreciated now that the way it goes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,960 ✭✭✭NewbridgeIR


    25 year anniversary Heartworm reissue on Vinyl coming soon ..I can still listen to Heartworm and say it still sounds amazing
    :

    I remember the unsold blue vinyl copies in Virgin and HMV back in 1995. I bought one, a mate bought one and the remaining eight or so seemed to stay there for ages. That happened with a lot of new LPs then.

    Hopefully the album will get a 2CD reissue with all the B-Sides and radio edits. Plus maybe some live stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 729 ✭✭✭Granadino


    I picked up Heartworm a few months back, brand new CD on ebay from a UK shop.


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