Should we ban junk food?

Austerity · 05-10-2010 3:05am #1

Because people get chronic diseases when they eat junk food alot is this a reason to ban it? When these people get sick they don't shoulder the full burden of the costs themselves, instead taxpayers are forced to foot the bill.

In many places they have banned transfats because they are considered to dangerous. Several countries have banned the diabetes drug Avandia because of the negative side effects, leading to death in some cases.

If we can ban transfats and dangerous drugs why can't we ban junk food?

OutlawPete · 05-10-2010 3:11am

No because some people have the abilty to apply moderation to their diet and why should they go without burgers, pizzas and fish and chips just because some individuals can't moderate their diet sufficiently?

05-10-2010 3:11am

Because people like it, and you'd lose hundreds of thousands of jobs if such a ban came in and began to spread worldwide.

ED E · 05-10-2010 3:11am

What about drink and cigarettes? Should they not be banned first?

Also, look at how well banning things works, all you'll do is force people to go to the corner to get their bag of crisps off some shady chap.

I think is double charging fat people for everything, they'd soon shape up.

jugger · 05-10-2010 3:11am

southpark has already covered this topic in season 14 medicinal fried chicken i think that episode should clear everything up for you

Austerity · 05-10-2010 3:14am

Because obese people with obesity related chronic diseases cost the taxpayers ****loads of money. Isn't that argument enough to ban junk food?

Maybe we can instead add punitive taxes to junk food like with alcohol and ciggies.

Glenster · 05-10-2010 3:18am

hands up anyone who wants to live in a world without burger bites ..................... no-one?

OK

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sunshineoh9 · 05-10-2010 3:18am

perhaps not BAN junk food altogether but put warning labels on it and make it age restricted purchases... like only people 16 years and older can buy them but any age can eat (so if parents allow junk food they have to buy it for the children)

Austerity · 05-10-2010 3:24am

sunshineoh9 wrote: »

perhaps not BAN junk food altogether but put warning labels on it and make it age restricted purchases... like only people 16 years and older can buy them but any age can eat (so if parents allow junk food they have to buy it for the children)

Why should parents be allowed to give their children junk food?
It's illegal for parents to give their children alcohol, but some do anyways. We call those bad parents.

05-10-2010 3:25am

OK, well lets apply the same logic to other things that lead to unhealthy people. It's only fair;

Alcohol and cigarettes? Top of the list, surely. They're outta here!

And sure videogames mean people aren't exercising. Ban them.

Same for TV. Prevent exercise, it's gotta go. Both videogames and TV can lead to unhealthy lifestyles if not used in moderation.

Internet? Gone.

sunshineoh9 · 05-10-2010 3:29am

Austerity wrote: »

Why should parents be allowed to give their children junk food?
It's illegal for parents to give their children alcohol, but some do anyways. We call those bad parents.

bad parents are going to be bad parents... some people do eat junk food in moderation and we shouldn't punish those people because most people have no self control

Deleted User wrote: »

Internet? Gone.

according to your logic you shouldn't even be posting on here... lol

05-10-2010 3:36am

Throw "You have to be this narrow to enter" signs at the front of fast food joints and the problem's solved.

05-10-2010 3:37am

sunshineoh9 wrote: »

according to your logic you shouldn't even be posting on here... lol

... but I am. I also ate a Twirl a few hours ago.

Everything in moderation (except the net, I admit. If i said I only use it in moderation, whilst posting at 4.37am, I'd just look foolish).

K-9 · 05-10-2010 3:37am

Austerity wrote: »

Why should parents be allowed to give their children junk food?

Because it's a nice treat for them now and again.

Austerity wrote:

It's illegal for parents to give their children alcohol, but some do anyways. We call those bad parents.

Indeed. Mediterranean countries might have a more liberal attitude on teenagers drinking a glass of wine at dinner, wouldn't say it is bad parenting.

Alcohol causes serious problems in Irish society. We should ban it, yeah?

Austerity · 05-10-2010 3:41am

K-9 wrote: »

Because it's a nice treat for them now and again.

Indeed. Mediterranean countries might have a more liberal attitude on teenagers drinking a glass of wine at dinner, wouldn't say it is bad parenting.

Alcohol causes serious problems in Irish society. We should ban it, yeah?

Yes you should.

TheUsual · 05-10-2010 3:45am

I assume the people on here are not so fat they can't leave the house.
Look, life is a choice, drugs, smoking, sugar and fatty food.

These things are nice in moderation (except drugs), the problem happens when you lose control on any of the vices and let them become the reason to live. My opinion is that fat people are a form of slow suicide and are looking for attention. They know they are going to die of organ failure but the attention they get is worth the pain from their point of view.

Hedman · 05-10-2010 3:48am

No it shouldn't be banned, neither should alcohol. It's all about personal freedoms. The Government should have a duty to inform people of the dangers of it but once they've done that if people want to continue eating it then it's their own business.

Hedman · 05-10-2010 3:51am

TheUsual wrote: »

My opinion is that fat people are a form of slow suicide and are looking for attention. They know they are going to die of organ failure but the attention they get is worth the pain from their point of view.

You just made me Facepalm IRL

Insect Overlord · 05-10-2010 3:58am

Eat enough spuds, white rice and pasta and you can pile on the pounds that way too. Should we ban those too? Because the last time the country had to go without potatoes was soooooooo good for them...

sunshineoh9 · 05-10-2010 3:59am

Deleted User wrote: »

... but I am. I also ate a Twirl a few hours ago.

Everything in moderation (except the net, I admit. If i said I only use it in moderation, whilst posting at 4.37am, I'd just look foolish).

lol, indeed! i think so long as people are given proper info on unhealthy things and they can make their own decision...

if an adult person wants to drink, smoke, do drugs, watch tv, computer and eat $hit all day and night knowing how bad it is for them; that is their prerogative... if they want an early grave who are we to stop them?

Austerity · 05-10-2010 3:59am

Hedman wrote: »

No it shouldn't be banned, neither should alcohol. It's all about personal freedoms. The Government should have a duty to inform people of the dangers of it but once they've done that if people want to continue eating it then it's their own business.

What about the personal freedom of the people who will have to pay for their healthcare costs, ie the taxpayer. They have no choice in the matter they are forced to pay for the hospital treatment of people who get diseases related to alcoholism and obesity.

This system is one of robbing Peter to pay Paul.

moonage · 05-10-2010 4:01am

Who is it that will define what junk food is anyway?

The foods that we are told should form the basis of our diet, carbohydrates (bread, pasta, rice, potatoes etc), are unhealthy when eaten in large quantities and are the cause of many diseases.

Austerity · 05-10-2010 4:07am

moonage wrote: »

Who is it that will define what junk food is anyway?

The foods that we are told should form the basis of our diet, carbohydrates (bread, pasta, rice, potatoes etc), are unhealthy when eaten in large quantities and are the cause of many diseases.

Carbohydrates in the form of bread, rice, pasta and potatoes are dangerous and can lead to type 2 diabetes. There should be a warning label on these products.

K-9 · 05-10-2010 4:08am

Austerity wrote: »

Yes you should.

Grand. So junk food, alcohol, smokes I presume, what else would you ban?

sunshineoh9 · 05-10-2010 4:09am

moonage wrote: »

Who is it that will define what junk food is anyway?

The foods that we are told should form the basis of our diet, carbohydrates (bread, pasta, rice, potatoes etc), are unhealthy when eaten in large quantities and are the cause of many diseases.

i'm sure they could make a system involving how much fat and/or sugar is in processed foods... obviously a potato is not junk food because it has to additives, but a bag of crisps could be loaded with a day's worth of fat in one serving... not to mention the mass amount of preservatives that make it harder for our body to digest said junk "food"

moonage · 05-10-2010 4:13am

Austerity wrote: »

Carbohydrates in the form of bread, rice, pasta and potatoes are dangerous and can lead to type 2 diabetes. There should be a warning label on these products.

Only a warning label?

I thought you wanted them banned.

Austerity · 05-10-2010 4:17am

moonage wrote: »

Only a warning label?

I thought you wanted them banned.

Obviously rice, potatoes and bread are not as dangerous as alcohol and junk food.

DOC09UNAM · 05-10-2010 4:45am

To back up your stupid idea.

How about some facts, how much money does the Government shell out every year?

Subract from that, the tax gained on all those products.

See if you're left with a + or a - figure.

And then post that please.

Without facts, it's just another shít thread.

ED E · 05-10-2010 4:51am

Junk food isnt bad for your health, being an idiot is. Dangerous is definitely a stretch.

FFS if you eat a McDonalds every day you'll get a little heavy. If you eat the same volume of Tuna every day you'll get Mercury poisoning (itching, burning or pain, skin discoloration (pink cheeks, fingertips and toes), swelling, and desquamation (shedding of skin); and thats just for starters).

Twenty something bananas will give you Potassium poisoning and possibly kill you. Wanna ban bananas?

OutlawPete · 05-10-2010 4:55am

Lethal_Bullet wrote: »

Twenty something bananas will give you Potassium poisoning and possibly kill you. Wanna ban bananas?

Bullshit.

I lived on a raw vegan diet for over three months a few years back and had well over 25 bananas a day on average.

Indeed, there are many people who live on a raw vegan diet and use bananas as one of their main staples.

http://www.30bananasaday.com/

DOC09UNAM · 05-10-2010 5:14am

OutlawPete wrote: »

Bullshit.

I lived on a raw vegan diet for over three months a few years back and had well over 25 bananas a day on average.

Indeed, there are many people who live on a raw vegan diet and use bananas as one of their main staples.

http://www.30bananasaday.com/

Damn you, making me read articles by posting links, GRRRRR.

Good one though tbh, http://www.30bananasaday.com/profiles/blogs/the-leadville-100-mile

05-10-2010 5:22am

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

Damn you, making me read articles by posting links, GRRRRR.

Good one though tbh, http://www.30bananasaday.com/profiles/blogs/the-leadville-100-mile

Leadville, great name for a goldrush town.

Kasabian · 05-10-2010 6:58am

If any sort of food gets banned in this country I am going to go hungry.

Fish and Chips , burgers and curries are not Junk food, they are a snack between meals.

senordingdong · 05-10-2010 7:18am

**** no.

If some stupid **** is actually stupid enough to die from eating (re-read that and think of how stupid it sounds), be it by eating too much or not eating properly, then **** them.

They would have to abnormally stupid to do this and if that's the case, then good riddance, the gene pool could do with some chlorine.

Kitty-kitty · 05-10-2010 7:59am

I don't think junk food should be banned but I would like to see some incentives in Ireland for, say, the opposite of the 'king size' bars we see appearing now. Mini mars bars outside of multipacks and pick 'n' mix, and multi-pack size tayto packs. With a lot of people they're eating for the taste, and they'll eat until it's gone, so making smaller portions available would be a good place to start. I loved the 100 calorie packs of pringles in America.

Possibly cracking down on sweets on the very, very high points of the calorie scale (i.e. the new mini caramel eggs out for halloween have 9 mini-egg size chocolate eggs in them. The packet is the size of the palm of your hand, and contains nearly 400 calories. Said packet claims '198 calories' and then in teeny tiny writing 'per 1/2 pack') Or encouraging companies to cut out things like high-fructose corn syrup would be a good idea? But all junk food? Really?

skywalker_208 · 05-10-2010 8:06am

This threads rediculous.
Junk food isnt bad for you - too much junk food is bad for you.
Everything in moderation as part of a well balanced diet etc etc....

Why should normal people suffer before some people eat too much of it?
Same as the stupid idea of a minimum charge for a unit of alcohol that has been doing the rounds lately. Why should I have to pay more for my alcohol which I drink in moderation just because some clowns drink too much?

Rediculous.... :rolleyes:

starbelgrade · 05-10-2010 8:16am

OutlawPete wrote: »

Bullshit.

I lived on a raw vegan diet for over three months a few years back and had well over 25 bananas a day on average.

Indeed, there are many people who live on a raw vegan diet and use bananas as one of their main staples.

http://www.30bananasaday.com/

I ate a raw vegan once. Didn't taste very nice, so I bunged him in the oven on a slow roast for a few hours with some root vegetables & seasoning. Turned out really tasty.

senordingdong · 05-10-2010 8:23am

Kitty-kitty wrote: »

I don't think junk food should be banned but I would like to see some incentives in Ireland for, say, the opposite of the 'king size' bars we see appearing now. Mini mars bars outside of multipacks and pick 'n' mix, and multi-pack size tayto packs. With a lot of people they're eating for the taste, and they'll eat until it's gone, so making smaller portions available would be a good place to start. I loved the 100 calorie packs of pringles in America.

Possibly cracking down on sweets on the very, very high points of the calorie scale (i.e. the new mini caramel eggs out for halloween have 9 mini-egg size chocolate eggs in them. The packet is the size of the palm of your hand, and contains nearly 400 calories. Said packet claims '198 calories' and then in teeny tiny writing 'per 1/2 pack') Or encouraging companies to cut out things like high-fructose corn syrup would be a good idea? But all junk food? Really?

No no no no.
Just no.

If a petrol station wants to build its walls with chocolate and fill one of the petrol pumps with caramel. If there is a demand for this then god speed to them.
It is nobodies responsibility but your own to watch what you eat.

The state should ban stupid people.

thebigbiffo · 05-10-2010 8:24am

TheUsual wrote: »

I assume the people on here are not so fat they can't leave the house.
Look, life is a choice, drugs, smoking, sugar and fatty food.

These things are nice in moderation (except drugs), the problem happens when you lose control on any of the vices and let them become the reason to live. My opinion is that fat people are a form of slow suicide and are looking for attention. They know they are going to die of organ failure but the attention they get is worth the pain from their point of view.

some drugs are totally fine in moderation same as almost anything considered 'bad for you'...

now that i've my pro-personal freedoms point across i shall leave thread immediately...

*slams door on way out

Pookah · 05-10-2010 8:31am

Austerity wrote: »

If we can ban transfats and dangerous drugs why can't we ban junk food?

Have trans-fats been banned?

I thought they were only banned in Denmark and Switzerland.

senordingdong · 05-10-2010 8:32am

TheUsual wrote:

These things are nice in moderation (except drugs), the problem happens when you lose control on any of the vices and let them become the reason to live. My opinion is that fat people are a form of slow suicide and are looking for attention. They know they are going to die of organ failure but the attention they get is worth the pain from their point of view.

Except we all know that narcotics, alcohol, caffeine and tobacco are addictive.
Are the fatties trying to tell us that fat is addictive?

And I don't think obeisity is an attention seeking mechanism.

Snowie · 05-10-2010 8:42am

I've no problem with fast food its the type of fast food thats made i have a n issue with...

I can cook my dinner in less then 5 minites on a wok if its an asian type food....
That's the same speed as going to get a chipper.
and my dinner will be better for you and nicer.

senordingdong · 05-10-2010 8:44am

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

I've no problem with fast food its the type of fast food thats made i have a n issue with...

I can cook my dinner in less then 5 minites on a wok if its an asian type food....
That's the same speed as going to get a chipper.
and my dinner will be better for you and nicer.

Exactly, it's just laziness on most peoples part.

thebigbiffo · 05-10-2010 8:44am

trans fats should be banned. a pointless addition to food. apart from that, its not my fault little timmy gorges on KFC, up to his parents to instil a sense of personal responsibility

Pookah · 05-10-2010 8:46am

senordingdong wrote: »

Except we all know that narcotics, alcohol, caffeine and tobacco are addictive.
Are the fatties trying to tell us that fat is addictive?

Scientists are saying that fat may be addictive...http://www.news-medical.net/news/20100329/Addiction-to-high-calorie-fat-rich-food-likened-to-cocaine-and-heroin-addiction.aspx

They may be fattie scientists, however.

Snowie · 05-10-2010 8:46am

senordingdong wrote: »

Exactly, it's just laziness on most peoples part.

I'd agree, but its also conviant, you gotta remember irish are renowned for there interest in food they eat for substance not for taste.

You go to italy spend a day with a fammily in tuskeney you'le start dinner at 7 and finish at 11 its a soical time to relax enjoy company of friends fammilly and good wine and eat and eat and eat.....:D

over here we stuff are selves stupid and then sit on the couch watching mind bogelling telly.

stovelid · 05-10-2010 8:47am

I propose that people who search relentlessly for scapegoat items that waste "my tax money" be banned from the Internet forthwith.

Snowie · 05-10-2010 8:48am

stovelid wrote: »

I propose that people who relentlessly for scapegoat items that waste "my tax money" be banned from the Internet forthwith.

2nd

:pac:

Gummy Panda · 05-10-2010 8:57am

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

I've no problem with fast food its the type of fast food thats made i have a n issue with...

I can cook my dinner in less then 5 minites on a wok if its an asian type food....
That's the same speed as going to get a chipper.
and my dinner will be better for you and nicer.

Yeah well the chipper tastes nicer!

Dravokivich · 05-10-2010 9:05am

Austerity wrote: »

Why should parents be allowed to give their children junk food?
It's illegal for parents to give their children alcohol, but some do anyways. We call those bad parents.

erm no it's not, a parent can provide alcohol to their child once it's consumed within the home, while the parents are present and the child does not get drunk.

Issue only arises if the child gets drunk, it's then considered abuse.

orourkeda · 05-10-2010 9:07am

Hell no.

How are you expected to survive with no whopper meals

Should we ban junk food?

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