Polish Man Dies

slum dog · 04-10-2010 08:03PM #1

A sign of the times. Polish man on his way to work in Dublin is murdered by unemployed Irish Man.

RIP

Slunk · 04-10-2010 08:07PM

Maybe they just randomly attacked him. Maybe him been polish had nothing to do with it. Still doesn't take from the fact there is scum out there that would do this and most likely get away with it or a slap on the wrist. Legal system is an utter joke in this country

Dr_Phil · 04-10-2010 08:13PM

Scum is a scum, no matter if they get a dog or a human... He's gonna be a free man in a couple of years.

Nodin · 04-10-2010 08:14PM

....there's a political angle to this....?

baldbear · 04-10-2010 08:16PM

RIP. Terrible for the poor mans family.

peasant · 04-10-2010 08:17PM

Nodin wrote: »

....there's a political angle to this....?

It would be naive not to investige if there is a political angle to this.

If there's one thing even worse than pure scum, it's racist scum. And it would be really scary should one find out that that racist scum might even be organised

yoshytoshy · 04-10-2010 08:21PM

This is the second time this has happened ,I'm sure polish people remember the last time.

More gardai are needed ,on the streets.

Amhran Nua · 04-10-2010 08:22PM

peasant wrote: »

If there's one thing even worse than pure scum, it's racist scum. And it would be really scary should one find out that that racist scum might even be organised

There are more than a few alarmists out there more than happy to use a man's death as an excuse to drum up support for their dubious causes though, like suicide stats being used to pressure the state to pay for people's mortgages. Have we got so much as a link to an article here OP, and is there anything to indicate that the man was attacked because of his nationality, such as how he might have been identified as such by this "unemployed man"? Or is it just another case of someone attacking people that would have been attacking people regardless of where they were from?

changes · 04-10-2010 08:23PM

There is a photo of the man who was arrested for it on rte website... he looks like pure scum.

Its just crazy that a man on his way to work gets beaten to death. Hopefully they are charged with murder.

murphaph · 04-10-2010 08:23PM

Be under no illusions....our sh!tty "justice" system will see to it that the scumbag who did this will be out and free in 15 years AT MOST. He will be back on the streets when he is just a few short years older than the young man whose life he has taken forever.

Taking someone's life like this and taking them from their family forever should mean a natural life sentence. I cannot understand any justice system that allows a killer to ever be free again.

RIP to the lad.

changes · 04-10-2010 08:25PM

yoshytoshy wrote: »

More gardai are needed ,on the streets.

We need more scum off the streets. Pure speculation here but whats the odds that these guys have convictions as long as your arm.

Amhran Nua · 04-10-2010 08:26PM

Right, here's an article.

peasant · 04-10-2010 08:27PM

Amhran Nua wrote: »

is there anything to indicate that the man was attacked because of his nationality...?

That's what I would like to know ...so it should be investigated.

That's all I'm saying ...no "dubious cause" whatsoever

Jarren · 04-10-2010 08:29PM

Agree

http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/mhideyauqlmh/

Amhran Nua · 04-10-2010 08:30PM

peasant wrote: »

That's what I would like to know ...so it should be investigated.

That's all I'm saying ...no "dubious cause" whatsoever

At first glance it would appear from the head on yerman to fall into the category of "looking for someone to attack regardless". Well, best wishes and deepest sympathies to the family and friends of that Polish man, its a bad end for anyone to come to.

Avns1s · 04-10-2010 08:31PM

Nodin wrote: »

....there's a political angle to this....?

Heres one..... it's time the death penalty came back for the taking of a life in this type of circumstance!!

RIP to the man and condolences to his family. Its such a terrible waste and more that Ireland can be ashamed of in an international context.

yoshytoshy · 04-10-2010 08:32PM

changes wrote: »

We need more scum off the streets. Pure speculation here but whats the odds that these guys have convictions as long as your arm.

Agreed ,I'm not trying to pass the blame ,but in reality when the cats away the scum runs riot.

LFCFan · 04-10-2010 08:37PM

Whether this was racially motivated or not, these scumbags should be done for murder and given life instead of the usual bull**** manslaughter crap that leads to a ridiculously short sentence. It's about time people were held accountable for their actions and some serious messages were sent out to those who think they can attack others without the consequences. This country is way too lenient on these 'people' and I use the word people loosely because they are sub human

Dr_Phil · 04-10-2010 08:38PM

Avns1s wrote: »

Heres one..... it's time the death penalty came back

Where would be the available hangman's position advertised? :cool:

Nodin · 04-10-2010 08:38PM

Avns1s wrote: »

Heres one..... it's time the death penalty came back for the taking of a life in this type of circumstance!!

Didn't stop murders the last time we had it....doesn't stop them now where they do.

Callan57 · 04-10-2010 08:39PM

RIP that poor man & deepest sympathy to his family.

Avns1s · 04-10-2010 08:45PM

Nodin wrote: »

Didn't stop murders the last time we had it....doesn't stop them now where they do.

That may be, though I can't see how it wouldn't be a significant deterrant, but at least we as a nation won't be keeping these scumbags in the lap of luxury in our prisons for years when we can't afford to look after those who deserve it. Right now there is literally no sanction.

Put yourself in the position of that mans parents and see how it looks.

Hill St Blue · 04-10-2010 08:48PM

Poor divil...just going about his own business and he gets attacked. Our society is going to the dogs. Rip.

murphaph · 04-10-2010 08:48PM

Nodin wrote: »

Didn't stop murders the last time we had it....doesn't stop them now where they do.

I disagree with the death sentence for one reason only..it is possible to make a mistake with it and execute an innocent person.

Wrt to the likes of the US it's not seen as a deterrant as it takes so long to actually go from sentencing to execution. In countries where the death sentence is carried out the same day as the trial, the effect is somewhat more pronounced, though as I said, I am in principle against it for the 1 person we might execute in error.

However, the next best thing is natural life in prison, and not in some cushy prison with TVs and fcukin pool tables on the landings. 23hr a day lockup, 1 hr exercise. Peoper punishment for taking life like this, not reform or rehabilitaion: fcuk that I say. PUNISHMENT and HARSH PUNISHMENT for the likes of this scumbag should be the order of the day.

Sir Oxman · 04-10-2010 08:49PM

There has been no suggestion in the media reports of him being targetted beacuse he was Polish.

Reports say up to 15 teenagers and some slightly older may have been involved.

Lukas Rzeszutko R.I.P.

Tougher sentences and less bleeding hearts needed in this country.

amacachi · 04-10-2010 08:51PM

murphaph wrote: »

I disagree with the death sentence for one reason only..it is possible to make a mistake with it and execute an innocent person.

Same here, but the trouble with not having the death penalty is that once the harshest punishment available is reduced it seems that all the rest go down as well in scale.

slum dog · 04-10-2010 08:52PM

i hope the homeless guy enjoys his new home. ridiculous

Nodin · 04-10-2010 08:52PM

Avns1s wrote: »

That may be, though I can't see how it wouldn't be a significant deterrant,
.

......"impulse" or spur of the moment killings aren't by their nature carried out with a thought to the consequences. Other killers - fairly obviously - don't plan on being caught. Add in those dysfunctional types who areincapable of fully seeing the results of their actions and "voila".

Avns1s wrote: »

but at least we as a nation won't be keeping these scumbags in the lap of luxury in our prisons for years when we can't afford to look after those who deserve it. Right now there is literally no sanction..

Prison is not the "lap of luxury" and I really do wish people would stop spreading that nonsense about the place.

Yes, you may argue that sentencing is too short, but thats another matter.

Avns1s wrote: »

Put yourself in the position of that mans parents and see how it looks.

You mean get worked up into an emotional state over a tragedy and see what happens? Thats not the best basis for running a society.

murphaph · 04-10-2010 08:59PM

Nodin wrote: »

......"impulse" or spur of the moment killings aren't by their nature carried out with a thought to the consequences. Other killers - fairly obviously - don't plan on being caught. Add in those dysfunctional types who areincapable of fully seeing the results of their actions and "voila".

Prison is not the "lap of luxury" and I really do wish people would stop spreading that nonsense about the place.

Yes, you may argue that sentencing is too short, but thats another matter.

You mean get worked up into an emotional state over a tragedy and see what happens? Thats not the best basis for running a society.

Do you think this killer should ever be released from prison?

Nodin · 04-10-2010 09:07PM

murphaph wrote: »

Do you think this killer should ever be released from prison?

I'd only endorse literal life sentences in limited circumstances, which may or may not apply here.

On the face of whats come to light so far - not for the next 25 - 30 years certainly.

Nozebleed · 04-10-2010 09:08PM

gambiaman wrote: »

There has been no suggestion in the media reports of him being targetted beacuse he was Polish.

Reports say up to 15 teenagers and some slightly older may have been involved.

Lukas Rzeszutko R.I.P.

Tougher sentences and less bleeding hearts needed in this country.

TOUGHER SENTENCES!!!! the justice system in this country is a joke. policing is a joke. that's the political angle. surely our politicians have a case to answer regarding the state of our society.

Murdered going to work. at 5am by some scumbag who no doubt was drinking cans,smokin blow and doin coke all fcukin night in a field behind his gaf..and now he'll get a 5 year sentence after he tells the judge he's addicted to hash and was frustrated or some nonsense.

Hang him.

Polish Man Dies

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