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WPP- FAS Are a Disgrace

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  • #2
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    lol, Mary Harney is fat


  • #3
    thee glitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭thee glitz


    Mr. Incognito wrote: »
    "Trainee" shop assistant :rolleyes: Dunmore
    https://jobbank.fas.ie/servlet/Watis?SESS=8859_37&SERVICE=CRITERIUMBROWSE&TEMPLATE=WWW_JS_VAC_CRITERIUM_BROWSE.HTM&ROW=50&BACK=TEMPLATE%3DWWW_JS_VAC_CRITERIUM_OVERVIEW.HTM

    25hrs pw for 9 months, for... nothing!


  • #4
    Phill Ewinn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭Phill Ewinn


    Mr. Incognito wrote: »
    The Work Placement programme on the face of it is a good idea- allow people with no experience to learn a trade or get experience to make them employable.

    However the blatant greed of the Celtic entrepeneurs is rising with the scum to the service.

    I don't blame the blatant neck on these people - who in FAS is responsible for allowing these charlatans to expoit people. Remember these people are expected to work a full week for Free for the experience.

    Examples:

    "Trainee" shop assistant :rolleyes: Dunmore
    https://jobbank.fas.ie/servlet/Watis?SESS=8859_37&SERVICE=CRITERIUMBROWSE&TEMPLATE=WWW_JS_VAC_CRITERIUM_BROWSE.HTM&ROW=50&BACK=TEMPLATE%3DWWW_JS_VAC_CRITERIUM_OVERVIEW.HTM

    "Trainee" Bar Person Foynes.
    https://jobbank.fas.ie/servlet/Watis?SESS=8859_39&SERVICE=CRITERIUMBROWSE&TEMPLATE=WWW_JS_VAC_CRITERIUM_BROWSE.HTM&ROW=58&BACK=TEMPLATE%3DWWW_JS_VAC_CRITERIUM_OVERVIEW.HTM

    Is it any wonder young people are emigrating. At least they can get paid for minimum wage jobs abroad.

    This country is a joke.

    Sending a letter to an tanaiste about this, for real. Absolute scum IMO. Hope the people of Dunmore know about this lout.


  • #5
    SeaFields
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    Phill Ewinn wrote: »
    Sending a letter to an tanaiste about this, for real. Absolute scum IMO. Hope the people of Dunmore know about this lout.

    Didn't think Mary Coughlan could read.


  • #6
    thee glitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭thee glitz


    Bill Cullen would be proud.


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  • #7
    Sticky_Fingers
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,379 ✭✭✭Sticky_Fingers


    Wasn't this sort of ****e supposed to have been stamped out a few months ago when it was found that unscrupulous employers were posting such ads? To lazy and cheap to hire people full time and they should be named and shamed for trying to scam the system in this way. I for one would boycott any business that would take advantage of peoples misfortune in this way in order to get cheap labour.


  • #8
    thee glitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭thee glitz


    Sticky_Fingers wrote: »
    they should be named and shamed for trying to scam the system in this way.

    Hannon's Daybreak, Dunmore, Co.Galway
    Foynes Inn, Main St. Foynes, Co. Limerick


  • #9
    DonJose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭DonJose


    How about this one,

    Trainee Manager Shop/Forecourt
    Hours per week: 39
    "This is a work placement programme and does not offer a salary."
    Location : Burnfoot (Donegal)

    https://jobbank.fas.ie/servlet/Watis?SESS=8859_104&REQUEST=WWW_JS_VAC_PREVIOUS_NEXT&ROW=NEXT!50


  • #10
    Gunsfortoys
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭Gunsfortoys


    Jesus. What a disgrace.


  • #11
    wmpdd3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,627 ✭✭✭wmpdd3


    My other half is trying to get 1 day a week work exp for his course and is being told by every business that they have no space as every business he contacted had atleast 1 wk exp person.


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  • #12
    alwaysadub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,554 ✭✭✭✭alwaysadub


    Yeah i've seen lots of them ads on FAS. It is a disgrace,people are totally taking the piss with the jobs.


  • #13
    Sticky_Fingers
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,379 ✭✭✭Sticky_Fingers


    thee glitz wrote: »
    Hannon's Daybreak, Dunmore, Co.Galway
    Foynes Inn, Main St. Foynes, Co. Limerick
    Are you sure this info is correct, I didn't see the business names in the linked pages and boards could get in trouble if it is wrong

    Area of activity in which placement is offered: Bar, Restaurant, B&B. Participants will gain experience in: Bar Trade Restaurant B&B This business operates like a mini hotel and the correct candidate will gain experience in all aspects of the hospitality trade. They will also learn all the aspects of how to manage an SME from profit to margins and service to cleanliness. Person specification: A person who is willing to learn and work smart. Someone who will use their initiative and be able to work as part of a small efficient friendly team. Once the person has the correct attitude we will be able to assist them to grow and learn the business. Someone whom is honest and capable. Garda vetting required
    lol I especially like the highlighted section, when I read it I had an image of them turning the fire hose on some poor bastard behind the sheds until they finally broke their spirit.


  • #14
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    thee glitz wrote: »
    Hannon's Daybreak, Dunmore, Co.Galway
    Foynes Inn, Main St. Foynes, Co. Limerick

    Filed under avoid.


  • #15
    thee glitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭thee glitz


    Sticky_Fingers wrote: »
    Are you sure this info is correct, I didn't see the business names in the linked pages and boards could get in trouble if it is wrong

    It's them alright.
    https://jobbank.fas.ie/servlet/Watis?SESS=8859_39&SERVICE=CRITERIUMBROWSE&TEMPLATE=WWW_JS_VAC_CRITERIUM_BROWSE.HTM&ROW=58&BACK=TEMPLATE%3DWWW_JS_VAC_CRITERIUM_OVERVIEW.HTM
    "Call in person to Kathy Hanlon Foynes Inn Main Street"

    https://jobbank.fas.ie/servlet/Watis?SESS=8859_37&SERVICE=CRITERIUMBROWSE&TEMPLATE=WWW_JS_VAC_CRITERIUM_BROWSE.HTM&ROW=50&BACK=TEMPLATE%3DWWW_JS_VAC_CRITERIUM_OVERVIEW.HTM
    "hannonsdaybreak@gmail.com"
    Location: Dunmore


  • #16
    Raekwon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,535 ✭✭✭Raekwon


    There is already an in-depth thread on this topic over in Work & Jobs where Roddy Molley some people where actually defending it.

    I think these WPP 'jobs' are adding to the unemployment rate in this country as these positions are replacing salary paying entry level roles and minimum wage jobs and pretty much giving companies free slave labour.

    The minimum wage in Ireland is now €0.00


  • #17
    -Trek-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭-Trek-


    Raekwon wrote: »
    There is already an in-depth thread on this topic over in Work & Jobs where Roddy Molley some people where actually defending it.

    I think these WPP 'jobs' are adding to the unemployment rate in this country as these positions are replacing salary paying entry level roles and minimum wage jobs and pretty much giving companies free slave labour.

    The minimum wage in Ireland is now €0.00

    Ya, but I think the beauty of it is that while they are still receiving SW payments they are not officially part of the live register (I'm open to correction on that though) so its sugar coating the figures if you will.


  • #18
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    It's not just about exploiting the system (which potentially is a great idea) or the people looking for experience.. it's also ensuring that the positions are not officially filled by someone else, thus keeping unemployment numbers up. Yeah, great job FAS


  • #19
    thee glitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭thee glitz


    mikom wrote: »
    Filed under avoid.
    Maybe, ye. I'm sure a mod will be around soon to decide.


  • #20
    peasant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    a few more:

    bar manager
    Person specification*:A hard working dedicated person

    production superviser
    Person specification*: Experience in a factory environment preferred and have the ability to plan and oversee production and ensure targets are met at all times. Health & safety training would be a bonus.

    broadband installer
    Person specification*:We are looking for someone who is well organised, neat, self motivated & mechanically minded. Preferably exp. of working with telecomms equipment, working at height & knowledge of IT networks,
    we just don't want to pay you


    production operative
    for 9 months slave labour you will learn how to press a few buttons on a machine


    The list is endless ...it's depressing :mad:


  • #21
    thee glitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭thee glitz


    peasant wrote: »
    broadband installer
    Person specification*:We are looking for someone who is well organised, neat, self motivated & mechanically minded. Preferably exp. of working with telecomms equipment, working at height & knowledge of IT networks,


    Unbelievable.


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  • #22
    SeaFields
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    OK...a FAS and FF idea. What did people expect? An efficient, effective program that met with the needs of those that it is intended for?! FFS.

    I suppose FAS needed some "executives" to fly first class to Florida or Dubai or something to ensure the fcuking thing was implemented properly. :mad:


  • #23
    saywhatyousee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,511 ✭✭✭saywhatyousee


    Trekmad wrote: »
    Ya, but I think the beauty of it is that while they are still receiving SW payments they are not officially part of the live register (I'm open to correction on that though) so its sugar coating the figures if you will.
    they are part of the live register.there just not classed as being unemployed


  • #24
    Swordfish01
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5 ✭Swordfish01


    Mr. Incognito wrote: »
    The Work Placement programme on the face of it is a good idea- allow people with no experience to learn a trade or get experience to make them employable.

    However the blatant greed of the Celtic entrepeneurs is rising with the scum to the service.

    I don't blame the blatant neck on these people - who in FAS is responsible for allowing these charlatans to expoit people. Remember these people are expected to work a full week for Free for the experience.

    Examples:

    "Trainee" shop assistant :rolleyes: Dunmore
    https://jobbank.fas.ie/servlet/Watis?SESS=8859_37&SERVICE=CRITERIUMBROWSE&TEMPLATE=WWW_JS_VAC_CRITERIUM_BROWSE.HTM&ROW=50&BACK=TEMPLATE%3DWWW_JS_VAC_CRITERIUM_OVERVIEW.HTM

    "Trainee" Bar Person Foynes.
    https://jobbank.fas.ie/servlet/Watis?SESS=8859_39&SERVICE=CRITERIUMBROWSE&TEMPLATE=WWW_JS_VAC_CRITERIUM_BROWSE.HTM&ROW=58&BACK=TEMPLATE%3DWWW_JS_VAC_CRITERIUM_OVERVIEW.HTM

    Is it any wonder young people are emigrating. At least they can get paid for minimum wage jobs abroad.

    This country is a joke.


    Have you ever tought about how this program can auctually help people find work who wudnt be able to otherwise find a job. Take my situation I am unemployed over two and a half years and cant get any work in my field or doing anything pritty much.I found an employer who will take me on under this scheme who would not have the money to auctually pay wages and I for one am delighted.I get 9 months work exp in my ideal job instead of been at home wasting away for another 2-5 years while ''things pick up :rolleyes:'' Ya right Get real people.Sure its open to exploitation but in fairness no one is going to go packin shelves for 40hours a week for nothing the people tryin to exploit it prob wont get applicants.


  • #25
    ilovelamp2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭ilovelamp2000


    I've seen Tesco advertise for a newly qualified solicitor on the WPP, and bearing in mind the following :
    http://www.breakingnews.ie/business/tesco-profits-up-10-454577.html

    I can only assume they are taking the p1ss.


  • #26
    WalterMitty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭WalterMitty


    Would I rather stay at home on internet ,reading , drinking tea, fapping,exercising than stand around in a low skill job for 9 months making some greedy fecker money?

    The economy here is fecked up . Graduates having to work full time for 200euro a week while cleaners and road sweepers in public sector scratch arses and get 4-500 a week.


  • #27
    peasant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    Swordfish01 wrote: »
    the people tryin to exploit it prob wont get applicants.

    That's not the point.

    The people trying to exploit it should:

    - not get their advertisement published in the first place
    - get a kick up the arse from fas for trying it on


    But hey ..this is fas running the show, not vetting the ads, not giving a f*ck.

    It's not like we could expect them to do something right and properly for a change after all their recent f*ckups, now could we?

    Asking too much, is it?


  • #28
    poppyvalley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 372 ✭✭poppyvalley


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    lol, Mary Harney is fat

    And she's the minister for HEALTH! God, I hope people abroad dont think that we all look like Mary Harney or Brian Cowen


  • #29
    Mr Benevolent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,433 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    I started on a WPP2 in Sandyford. Everyone in the office bar the directors were on the WPP program. I quit after a couple of days at the flagrant breach of the WPP2 regulations. It's utterly, utterly insane.

    Now that I think about it, even though I'm Irish I have never seen a worse first-world country. We'e amazingly bad at everything. Just found out today that Intel is halfway shut down already. Intel is a major part of our economy, and if it goes every other major company will go.


  • #30
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Confab wrote: »
    I started on a WPP2 in Sandyford. Everyone in the office bar the directors were on the WPP program. I quit after a couple of days at the flagrant breach of the WPP2 regulations. It's utterly, utterly insane.

    Now that I think about it, even though I'm Irish I have never seen a worse first-world country. We'e amazingly bad at everything. Just found out today that Intel is halfway shut down already. Intel is a major part of our economy, and if it goes every other major company will go.

    This is the truth that the guberment don't want people to know.


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  • #31
    Mr. Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    Have you ever tought about how this program can auctually help people find work who wudnt be able to otherwise find a job. Take my situation I am unemployed over two and a half years and cant get any work in my field or doing anything pritty much.I found an employer who will take me on under this scheme who would not have the money to auctually pay wages and I for one am delighted.I get 9 months work exp in my ideal job instead of been at home wasting away for another 2-5 years while ''things pick up '' Ya right Get real people.Sure its open to exploitation but in fairness no one is going to go packin shelves for 40hours a week for nothing the people tryin to exploit it prob wont get applicants.

    That's great if you get a job in programming or a trade or some REAL Professional skills- that is worth the experience,

    Packing shelves, pulling pints, filing and other MINIMUM Wage Jobs are not- that is why they are minimum wage- NO EXPERIENCE REQUIRED.

    And The Problem I have is WHO IS VETTING THESE ADS???- Who in FAS is administering the system??


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