Dublin Marathon 2010

Entered today.

Have got to commit earlier for these things!

trats wrote: »

When will we get the first "I've been training for the last 6 months but...."

5:10 Monday

No doubt there will be a stream of people too who were "injured" and somehow recovered at 5:01pm on Oct 4th who will feel cheated that they can't enter...

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

I think we should try to predict the total number of:
'Wanted: race number for Dublin City Marathon' type posts.
Keep count in the ART Off-topic forum. My guess is that we'll get a total of 12.

I WANT A RACE NUMBER!!!!!

but......ill sign up officially sunday night for that

All systems go...

"This is an email to inform you that you may have received an automatic email saying that you weren't registered for the event.
If you registered through another method than Active, please note that you are officially registered and you can disregard the Active email you recently received."

Clearlier wrote: »

Anybody ever run a marathon by heart rate?

The main problem with that is that in a race your heart rate will be elevated at the same pace compared to a training run because of the adrenaline rush. If you use your training's heart rates to guide your effort in the marathon (or any other race distance, for that matter), you are inevitably going to sell yourself short.

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

The main problem with that is that in a race your heart rate will be elevated at the same pace compared to a training run because of the adrenaline rush. If you use your training's heart rates to guide your effort in the marathon (or any other race distance, for that matter), you are inevitably going to sell yourself short.

It's a good point TFB and it certainly confused me a bit towards the start of my training when I couldn't hit the heart rate zones I thought that I should have been hitting (MHR of 194 being based on a race). I've since kept an eye on my heart rate in both races and training so I have some idea of the impact of a race on HR (it's about 5 - 8 bpm). Given that it's my first one I'm thinking that a cautious start that has me no higher than 150 which is about 77%MHR and a pace of 7:xx to halfway followed by a gradual controlled increase in effort might be the best way to go. Not sure what I'll do if I find that 150HR has me at 8:xx

mo_bhicycle wrote: »

Same here!
If anybody manages to register or has a solution it'd be great if you could tick a post up here.
I've emailed the office with the error details, hopefully they'll sort it in time.

Whatever was wrong seems to be ok now. Managed to register at 5:30pm on Sunday.

rb

Clearlier wrote: »

Anybody ever run a marathon by heart rate?

Send a pm to Gringo78. He's run a couple of marathons by heart rate at this stage. He's not running DCM so probably won;t visit this thread.

Clearlier wrote: »

Anybody ever run a marathon by heart rate?

I've been working off a max heart rate of 194 which I measured at the end of a 10k about 6 months ago where I threw the kitchen sink at it for the last mile. I was thinking of doing the following:

<=150 for the first 10km
<=155 for 10km - 20km
<=160 for 20km - 30km
<=165 for 30km - 40km
and if I'm not dead let it do whatever it wants for the last couple of kms.

The zones I'm talking about would be maximums and I'd be aiming to let it gradually drift up whilst hopefully maintaining a relatively steady pace. The allowance for the HR drift is because with no runs above 15m except for two 20m runs (and possibly one 18 - 20 on Monday) I'm going to lack endurance. Overall I've averaged about 35 - 40 miles a week with the exception of two weeks at the beginning of August where I ran just twice but it has been up and down since August.

As I write this I'm wondering if perhaps I shouldn't be looking at doing a longer stretch at the lower heart rates say:

<=150 to halfway
<=155 to 18 miles
<=160 to 23 miles
<=165 to the end

Anyway, just wondering if anybody has any experience of approaching a marathon like this? If it wasn't my first one I'd probably not be running it given my preparation but it is my first and I'd like to set myself a target to knock over in the spring.

I doubt it's relevant but I'm guessing that I'll finish somewhere between 3:15 and 3:30.

I think you are being overly cautious with your targets. Too low. At 150 you are still in the very low effort and buring mostly fat and barely any glycogen. At this effort you could probably run 26-30 miles today . the legs would be achey but they would be fine the next day. You CAN cope with a higher rate and still not burn out. At a very conservative effort 75% is guaranted manageable. I put money on it. As you get further on past the half let it drift up a bit and by the time you get into the last 10k you can afford to let it ride higher again . The legs will feel achey - but that feeling doesnt get worse and you can still run and even up the pace a tad without them buckling and objecting .
It will take a few miles for the heart rate to get going so use your pace as a guide for the first few miles and then keep an eye on your HR for the rest of your journey.

Time|Name|Comments|Actual
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Sub 3.00|||
Sub 2:35|Heffsarmy|Anything faster will be a bonus, first time running Dublin
Sub 2:45|Tunguska|Beat last years time
2.55|smmoore79||
2.55|pablot|3.01min in dub last year. its funny how the brain gets tired and you forget about that little point 2 of a mile at the end and cant figure where the sub 3 went:)|
2.55|Timmaay|1st Marathon, and I'm only just back from breaking my shoulderblade so this will be fun!
2:59:59|Elfoyzer|3:29 p.b (2008) but disappointing DCM last year following IM Switzerland, just know I can run better than that!
2:59:59|Bloody Nipples|4th Marathon, ran 3:15 in Cork, hopefully knock 15-20 mins off by increasing the mileage|
2:59:xx|donothoponpop|Third (time lucky) Dublin, will hold onto the pace group for as long as I can!|
2:59:xx|misty floyd|2nd Dublin, last year was a disaster. 3:00:30 in April in Rotterdam but gone down hill hard since then. 12 weeks to get back to fitness and a little fitter again . 100% effort|

Sub 3.15|||
3.03|earlyevening|Just want to edge a little better than last year's 3:07|
3:14:59| Bart simpson|2nd marathon, PB is 3:29:14 in DCM09
3:14:59|NeedsTraining|6th marathon, first Dublin. Would like to break 3:10 but don't think it is possible for me this year|
3:14:59 | figs | 3rd Marathon. 2nd DCM. Hit wall at 20 on both previous occasions. Business to finish this year. |
3:15|Condo131|20th Marathon, 1st since Dub '03. Hope to make Boston M55 (3:45) May adjust target down|
3:15|MaroonTam|1st Marathon. Its a Push but training for it (might end up 3:20)|
3:15 |Potsy11 |5 Marathon. Ran 3.27 last year. Got onto training a bit late so hope to be in better condition|
3:14:50|Krusty_Clown|3:15 Pacer (Provisional - pending approval and non-injury)
3:14:50|Rebelrunner|4th marathon & would be delighted to break ambitious 3.15.
3:14:50|ronanmac|An ambitious jump from last year's 3:55 but if McMillan says it can be done . Training for 3:10 so as to be able to run 3:15 without too much of a fade at the end
3:14:49|robinph|I know I can run faster, but I know I'll not have trained enough. Plan is to just follow the clown to stop me going off too fast and then leave him for dust in the latter stages. Hopefully|
3.15|pgmcpq|A bit of a stretch target (3.47 earlier this year), was thinking 3.20 ...but training/results have gone well.
Sub 3:30|||
3.19.59|Diggy78|Might be ambitious trying to shave 5 mins off last year but why try to break 3:22, |
3:25:00 |Clearlier | 1st Marathon, Planning to run by heart rate, not enough miles to properly go for it |
3:27:29 |Sharktale | 9th Marathon, Ran 3:45 Barcelona '10, Hoping for the best |
3:29:59 |Jackyback | 2nd Marathon, looking to shave 26 minutes off my Cork time from earlier in the year|
3:29:59 |Cartman78 | 4th Marathon, Ran 3:45 in GLR in May taking it very easy. Hoping that more mileage + more effort on the day = Sub 3:30|
sub 3:30|SUNGOD| after over 12 months of injuries i just need a target race
3:29:59|Plodder|5th marathon, previous best 3:53. Training harder now
3:29:59|Mr Marenghi|2nd Dublin marathon, training a lot harder and i think a bit more intelligently, would love to go sub 3.30
3:29:59|menoscemo| 2nd DCM 4:15 to 3:30 is a big ask but training is much better. Hope to beat the course this time.|
3:29:59|Peckham| Hopefully will be doing the 3:30 pace group, so looking forward to cracking the whip when the pain hits around UCD |
3:29:59|TFBubendorfer| Hopefully will be the other quarter of the same pace group and looking forward to seeing Peckham cracking the whip when the pain hits around UCD ||||
3:29:59|RedB|3rd DCM. 4:50 last year but ran 3:58 in GLR and hope to increase the mileage and intensity. In for a penny......|
3:29:59|LeCheile| Yet another pacer:)|
3:29:59|Almac06|2nd Dublin, ran 3:58 last year and am hoping to break 3:30 this year - May need a jockey-back for the last few|
Sub 3:45|||
3.3x|BrokenMan|First time out and its probably ambitious.Going to go for it anyway|
3.3x|Moycullen1|12th Marathon, anything under 3:40 would be a PB|
3.40|Doledude86|2nd Dublin Marathon went 3:56 last year would like to go 3:40 this year|
3:4X|sarsfieldsrock|Be the best I can!|
3:44:59| Louthandproud| Setting an ambitious target after finishing in 4:12 last year, feel I can achieve if I get the training done |
3:45|itsalltrue|there we go|
3:45|Tipp man running|Injury permitting hope to break this time for the first time:)|
3:45|Aimman|And I'm blaming Oisin if I don't, cos he's giving me a jockey back!|
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Sub 4.00|||
3.55|RayCun|First time out, so not too ambitious (I hope)|
3.59.59|Hawkwing|3rd marathon, 3rd Dublin, sub-4 or die trying |
3:50|digger2d2|First and maybe last so definitely need to break 4 hrs|
3.55|curraghyid|first marathon but i reckon acheivable withthe right training|
3.59|ElectraX|first marathon so thats my dream time|
3.59|RubyK| a first-timer, 3.59.59 would make my year |
3.59|ROFno1| First-timer as well so 3.59.59 would be great. But just to finish will be a great achievement|
3.59|MitreSize5|First marathon, would be delighted with anything under 4
3.59|opus|Running with a friend to provide moral support, will try to get us round in under 4|
3:59|shotgunmcos| Pacer. Will be crossing the line in 3:59 (chip not clock) folks so either finish with us or sprint ahead of us in the last mile to get your sub 4 |
3:59|christeb| Pacer. Shoe-horning myself in here with the legend that is shotgunMCOS, looking forward to meeting (and verbally abusing) you all on the day |
3:59|mfdc| 2nd time, just want to run to the end really; blew up very badly last year. |
3:59|neilc|2nd DCM, foolishly ran injured last year and bombed. Everything going great this year, fingers crossed. Secretly hoping for 3.45 but would be delighted to do sub 4.|
Sub 4.30|||
4.29:59|Brophya2007|First Marathon all going well, Sub 4:30 would be nice|
4.29:30|Izoard|Pacer - Even-split marathon will be a result:)|
4.29.59|Blueskye|Died an absolute death at DCM last year so would be very happy with 4.29
4.29.59|Red Belly|1st marathon. Finish would be good. Sub 4:30 would be great|
4.2?:??|Racheljev|Crap time last year so want a 4 something time this year!|
4:15:00|rovers_runner|Halfway between my "potential" from 5k/10k and my most recent time|
4:15:00|hot to trot|
4:20|ilovetorun|I would be delighted with myself if I got in sub 4.30 and even more delighted if I got in ahead of 4.20 |
4.24.55|Rainbow Kirby|2nd marathon, 2nd Dublin - training has sucked, faster than last year would be nice.|
4.20.00|jcsmum|1st timer, so would be thrilled to run the whole route|
Going for a Finish|||
4:30 to 5:00|Meathcountysec|First Only Marathon ever, just want to run all the way|
N/A|munsterbear|first marathon and just aiming to finish
N/A|Puck|First marathon, I don't care about time.
4.40|littlebug|just want to enjoy it and not kill myself.

pdiddyw wrote: »

Hi,

I am looking to complete my first marathon at the DCM and I am aiming for a sub 4 finish.Just wondering if you would recommend one more long run before the main event.
I completed a 3/4 marathon in Athlone yesterday in 3:06, but id imagine its alot tougher course than Dublin...it was very hilly!!!
But don't feel to bad today thankfully!!
Anyroad , I ran 19 miles last wkend and this wkend and I ma tempted to do one more this wkend coming...as I 'd like to prepared as best as i can in the event of hitting the dreaded wall on the big day...

Thanks

The general advice would be to do a three week taper. The hard work is done now, and those two long runs will stand to you on the day. Your body needs time to recover from the hard work you've been putting it through so it's time to ease the mileage off while keeping the intensity the same... Are you following a plan? Check out the Hal Higdon plans to see the what kind of mileage you should be doing now...