Lucky He Did It In Marbella

Aswerty · 26-09-2010 12:38PM

Moro Man wrote: »

You may not believe it but this was the point I making.

The smug bastard is saying he did nothing wrong because it wasn't ''illegal''.

Most moral minded people don't need to check the law book of the jurisdiction they are currently in to see whether something is right or wrong - they know before they do something.

In this country 18 year olds have been sent down, placed on the sex offender register and will forever more be known as paedophiles (even if the phrase is used out of context) for sleeping with 16 year olds.

We then have this prick looking for sympathy, and seems to be taking the moral high ground in a national newspaper that is published in a country where his actions would see him (in all likelyhood ) behind bars.

I know what a paedophile is, but get a conviction for sex with a minor and you will be labelled a kiddy-fiddler no matter what the age of the child is.

I think most peoples problem is that this has nothing to do with pedophilia yet you keep bringing it up. Just because old wans in this country would label him as such merely means they're idiots. Yes this guy looking at the circumstances could very well be taking advantage of a young woman which is shameful, on the other hand she may have known full well what she was about when she had sex with him.

I think a 16 year old is pretty mature and I wouldn't have a problem if the age of consent was lowered to 16 in this country. The fact is that if an 18 year old is branded a pedophile for having sex with a 16 year old it is a disgrace as far as I'm concerned.

Bringing the age of consent in Spain into the equation is irrelevant to this particular story. I and I would assume others are saying what he did isn't really wrong because they think a 16 year old is capable of consenting to sex regardless of what our laws say.

When your looking at people bordering the age of consent things can be morally dodgy whether your just above or just below the line but they don't necessarily have to be. It's all circumstantial.

26-09-2010 12:47PM

Seosaimh77 wrote: »

The age of consent is an arbitrary decision made by each country to try to fit the social morals of that country. Even each country changes their age of consent to suit changing societal ideas.

He has done nothing illegal (i think) but that doesn't mean that you are not allowed to be morally outraged by it. Personally I'm not morally outraged by it anymore than I would be by people who go to Amsterdam for a joint and a prostitute.

surely age of consent is set to protect minors ?? not to satisfy societies attitudes ?

buying the services of a prostitute and smoking hash are in no way comparable to seducing a 16 year old .

KungPao · 26-09-2010 12:58PM

Moro Man wrote: »

13 is legal in Spain

*books flight*

OutlawPete · 26-09-2010 01:05PM

Moro Man wrote: »

.. can we refer to him a paedophile?

If you want, in the same way that we can refer to you as: Toffee Crisp Man, I suppose.

If accuracy is something that your interested in though, you could properly refer to him as a Ephebophile.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia

Donkey Oaty · 26-09-2010 01:12PM

OutlawPete wrote: »

If accuracy is something that your interested in though, you could properly refer to him as a Ephebophile.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia

Not sure if that's quite right, Pete.

Ephebophilia strictly denotes the preference for mid-to-late adolescent sexual partners, not the mere presence of some level of sexual attraction.

There's no evidence that he prefers adolescents. A browse through his porn stash might settle the issue.

Snakeblood · 26-09-2010 01:12PM

KungPao wrote: »

*books flight*

JUST WAIT TILL YOU'RE SIXTEEN. WHAT'S THE RUSH?

arybvtcw0eolkf · 26-09-2010 01:17PM

Aswerty wrote: »

It's normal for men to be physically attracted to 16 year old girls

Here's one man who's not.

And I'd be surprised if too many (if any) of my mates would be sexually attracted to a 16yr old kid.

Micky Dolenz · 26-09-2010 01:23PM

Non issue really as long as there were consent and all was legal.

It's like smoking weed in Holland, fine to do it there, not so fine to do it here.

When in Rome and all that.

laugh · 26-09-2010 01:26PM

Did we end up with these ages of consent for modern moral reasons or to give girls a chance to finish education?

SugarHigh · 26-09-2010 01:26PM

Phillip Magnificent Scooter wrote: »

Here's one man who's not.

And I'd be surprised if too many (if any) of my mates would be sexually attracted to a 16yr old kid.

What about a 16 year old who looks like a 20 year old?

Pookah · 26-09-2010 01:29PM

SugarHigh wrote: »

What about a 16 year old who looks like a 20 year old?

At my age there's very few 20 year olds I'd find sexually attractive, but that's just my preference and I wouldn't knock anyone for their (legally-held) preferences.

OutlawPete · 26-09-2010 01:29PM

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

There's no evidence that he prefers adolescents.

Well, there's at least some evidence that he has somewhat of an interest in them.

Whereas, there is none that he has an interest whatsoever in prepubescent children.

Micky Dolenz · 26-09-2010 01:30PM

Pookah wrote: »

At my age there's very few 20 year olds I'd find sexually attractive, but that's just my preference and I wouldn't knock anyone for their (legally-held) preferences.

Liar :P

How old are you?

Donkey Oaty · 26-09-2010 01:30PM

OutlawPete wrote: »

Well, there's at least some evidence that he does.

Whereas, there is none that he has any interest in prepubescent children.

True!

Pookah · 26-09-2010 01:32PM

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Liar :P

How old are you?

34 and a half.

Young 'uns (for the most part) just don't do it for me.

Biggins · 26-09-2010 01:39PM

Moro Man wrote: »

My point was , even though he broke no laws in the country he was in, in this country you'll get sent down for sleeping with a 16 year old, be put on the sex offenders register and forever more be knowns a a paedophile.

While I can understand the upset and the repulsiveness at he having sex with a 16 year old (father of 3 girls here) - there is an important point for me sticking out.

He broke no legal laws in where the act was done.
He should not be automatically punished as such then because he sets foot back in Ireland just because our laws are different.*

If countries started punishing people (as soon as they set foot on another foreign soil) for things they did back home here, Irish people would be automatically stoned to death for adultery they might have committed here but had not done in Iran for example!

As much as I am personally repulsed at his action, to slap him with automatic punishments soon as he lands in the country, is a no-no with me.

Then we have the example of Gary Glitter - I bring this up for good reason - Mr Glitter committed heinous acts that was BOTH illegal in his home country (England) and Vietnam he did it in. For those acts that were illegal in both states, England sought to protect its nations young children by imposing a further penalty on his return.
The difference between Mr Boland's act and Mr Glitter act was that of state laws applying equally in one case and not in the other.

Again, as much as Mr Bolands acts repulses me, it would be wrong for us to just start imposing penalties for acts done elsewhere without proper legal basis.
Should we automatically chops hands off an Irish person when he returns because he might have been caught and convicted of stealing in Iraq?

* (Our laws apply to acts committed on our island, I know that's obvious but it has to be restated)

CiaranC · 26-09-2010 01:39PM

Pookah wrote: »

34 and a half.

Young 'uns (for the most part) just don't do it for me.

Youre some spoofer. :P

SugarHigh · 26-09-2010 01:42PM

Pookah wrote: »

At my age there's very few 20 year olds I'd find sexually attractive, but that's just my preference and I wouldn't knock anyone for their (legally-held) preferences.

I think you're definitely full of sh1t and you just realised you no longer have a chance with young women so you've convinced yourself you don't want them. It's like when fat people pretend they don't find skinny people attractive.

Pookah · 26-09-2010 01:44PM

Donkey Oaty · 26-09-2010 01:51PM

SugarHigh wrote: »

I think you're definitely full of sh1t and you just realised you no longer have a chance with young women so you've convinced yourself you don't want them. It's like when fat people pretend they don't find skinny people attractive.

He prefers older people. What's controversial about that? Also, many people (and indeed entire cultures) don't regard skinny people as attractive.

CiaranC · 26-09-2010 01:53PM

Younger women are more physically attractive than older women. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a sexual deviant. Fact.

Donkey Oaty · 26-09-2010 01:54PM

CiaranC wrote: »

Younger women are more physically attractive than older women. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a sexual deviant. Fact.

Well in that case there are probably more sexual deviants out there than you imagine.

SugarHigh · 26-09-2010 01:55PM

CiaranC wrote: »

Younger women are more physically attractive than older women. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a sexual deviant. Fact.

Exactly we should be locking up the filthy perverts out there ****ing fat 40 year olds.

CiaranC · 26-09-2010 01:56PM

SugarHigh wrote: »

Exactly we should be locking up the filthy perverts out there ****ing fat 40 year olds.

Too true, should be an upper age of consent too.

Donkey Oaty · 26-09-2010 01:57PM

CiaranC wrote: »

Too true, should be an upper age of consent too.

I understand that Maurice Boland is 62.

I hope the young lady gets a fair trial.

Pookah · 26-09-2010 01:59PM

SugarHigh wrote: »

I think you're definitely full of sh1t and you just realised you no longer have a chance with young women so you've convinced yourself you don't want them. It's like when fat people pretend they don't find skinny people attractive.

Talk about a thread reversal.

As a 20 year old, I preferred older women. My girlfriends around that age were all older than me.

As a 34 year old, I prefer older women. Not necessarily older than me, but definitely older than 20.

Is that so hard for people to get their head around?

CiaranC wrote: »

Younger women are more physically attractive than older women. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a sexual deviant. Fact.

Opinion disguised as fact.

I'd much rather whack off to Nina Hartley than Little Lupe. If that makes me a deviant, so be it.

OutlawPete · 26-09-2010 02:02PM

Okay then, let me ask you this.

If it's normal to like young girls and a you're a deviant to want the older woman.

Then what am I when my ultimate fantasy would be to watch Sharon Stone have a hardcore threesome with the Olsen Twins?

Micky Dolenz · 26-09-2010 02:03PM

Pookah wrote: »

Opinion disguised as fact.

I'd much rather whack off to Nina Hartley than Little Lupe. If that makes me a deviant, so be it.

Yes, that does make you a deviant :P. But not all is lost, you know who Little Lupe is, I had to google her.

Pookah · 26-09-2010 02:04PM

OutlawPete wrote: »

Okay then, let me ask you this.

If it's normal to like young girls and a you're a deviant to want the older woman.

Then what am I when my ultimate fantasy would be to watch Sharon Stone have a hardcore threesome with the Olsen Twins?

That makes you a lesbian, trapped in a man's body.

26-09-2010 02:06PM

CiaranC wrote: »

Younger women are more physically attractive than older women. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a sexual deviant. Fact.

haha classic ! wonderful gross generalisation there ! genius

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