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Lucky He Did It In Marbella

  • 26-09-2010 10:22am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭Moro Man


    Someone should tell the smug prick that 17 is the age of consent in this country, and it's lucky for him that he did it abroad.

    But seeing as he admits to having an affair with an girl who would be considered underage in this country can we refer to him a paedophile?


    'Mr Marbella' admits to affair with 16-year-old aspiring singer

    By NIAMH HORAN, Entertainment News Reporter
    Sunday September 26 2010
    Celebrity Irish DJ Maurice Boland has been having a secret affair with a 16-year-old teenager in Marbella.

    Known as "Mr Marbella", the former Irish nightclub boss, who has been married for 40 years, had his long-standing contract with Talk Radio Europe on the Costa del Sol suddenly terminated last week when the affair with the teenager came to light.

    Mr Boland was helping the young entertainer prepare to sing in his Marbella talent competition, The Wow Factor, which he set up in aid of a cancer charity, when the affair took place.

    Speaking for the first time about his relationship with the 16 year old, Mr. Boland told the Sunday Independent he made a "terrible" mistake.

    "I made an error of judgement," he said. "I got involved with someone. I have been married for 40 years next year. I have been in the media and nightclub business for many, many years and I've never had an affair.

    "This is the first time it's happened. I made a very bad misjudgment, which is terrible and hurt a lot of people, including my own wife and her family and my children. And all I can say to those people who are hurt -- I am sincerely sorry."

    The news will come as a shock to those who know Maurice Boland from his days as a high-profile nightclub owner when he launched the late-night club culture on Dublin's Leeson Street. Later he joined forces with La Stampa owner Louis Murray to launch Barbarella's nightclub.

    Mr Boland and his wife Wendy were a glamour couple of Dublin's social set and moved to Marbella, Spain, in the Eighties, where they became part of the ex-pat Irish social scene. Wendy is very well known among the ladies who lunch and has her own business as a party organiser, mainly for Irish people.

    Mr Boland himself is well connected with the ex-pat Irish community and frequently has guests over from Ireland as well as interviewing a string of famous people, including British Prime Minister David Cameron.

    Mandy Smith, who claimed her relationship with Rolling Stone Bill Wyman began at the age of 13 and who went on to marry the ageing rocker, later worked for Mr Boland in his club Cuba. He eventually became her agent, promising to make her a star. Under his tutelage, Mandy landed a few modelling jobs and began to take herself seriously as a singer, cutting a record in 1987 called I Just Can't Wait.

    Mr Boland confirmed this weekend that his wife is standing by him and that his family are struggling to get through it together.

    "It's been a very rocky time for us. My family have rallied around me and obviously they are not happy with the situation, but we love each other very much. We're a very close family. I shouldn't have got involved with anyone," he said.

    "My wife is coping. We have a lot of years behind us and I pray we'll have many years ahead of us. I'm very upset -- not for me as much as I am upset for my wife and our children and her family as well. I don't give two craps about me, who cares? But I do care about my wife, I do care about my children, I do care about her and her family."

    Speaking about the liaison with the young girl, he explained how he had set out to help her build on her musical talents but their relationship eventually turned into something more.

    He said their relationship started off as a working relationship while he helped her with her music career, saying, "It was a very short involvement and it was never planned. Some of these things just happen.

    "It came about through circumstance. The wrong time at the wrong place. There's nothing planned about it."

    Asked how his working relationship crossed the line, he replied: "I can't answer it. I can't answer because there was no plan. How do these things happen? I don't know.

    "It came to light, people found out and that was it," he said.

    "There is no rape involved, no illegality involved, so there's nowhere else to go with that."

    Drawing on the young girl's age, he said, "The reason that anyone is showing any interest is because of the girl's age, but I've done nothing illegal. She is of legal age. I have done nothing illegal."

    "She's 100 per cent over 16. Not that I feel any better. I'm feeling awful about everything. I didn't set out to have a relationship with anyone, or to have it with someone so young. It was just a misjudgment on my behalf.

    "These things happen in life. Why do they happen? I have no answer at all. It certainly wasn't planned or anything," he said.

    Mr Boland said he will be "withdrawing from public life" for the foreseeable future, including taking a step back from all radio and charity work. His Wow Factor competition, the final of which was due to run in November, has also been cancelled.

    Drawing on the termination of his contract at Talk Radio Europe, he said: "Radio was my whole life. It's just awful. I don't know if it's the end. It's too early to make any decisions yet."

    He added: "I think it's very important that people understand that there's been a lot of hurt involved in this whole thing and they should make up their mind to leave the families alone. All I can say is that I'm very upset that this happened, very upset and very sorry. It's been the lowest moment in my life ever."

    - NIAMH HORAN, Entertainment News Reporter

    Sunday Independent


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 544 ✭✭✭Pookah


    Moro Man wrote: »
    But seeing as he admits to having an affair with an girl who would be considered underage in this country can we refer to him a paedophile?

    No. He's not a paedophile.

    Sex with 16 yr olds =/= paedophile.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭MadPatrick


    But he didn't do it in this country, he did it in a country where it's not illegal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Scuid Mhór


    lol after hours. keep rocking the boat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    He wasn't in this country. He was in a country where the legal age is 16. It's 16 in most first world countries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Aswerty


    Considering a pedophile is attracted to prepubescent children I'm going to have to say no he's not a pedophile. It's normal for men to be physically attracted to 16 year old girls, the worst you could say is he took advantage of a young woman lawfully.

    To be honest OP your question is like asking, is a man who has sex in Ireland with a 17 year old a pedophile because the age of consent is 18 in the states*.


    * I know it's not unilaterally.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 228 ✭✭LevelSpirit


    Should anyone who drinks here under the age of 21 be charged when they land in the US?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭Moro Man


    My point was , even though he broke no laws in the country he was in, in this country you'll get sent down for sleeping with a 16 year old, be put on the sex offenders register and forever more be knowns a a padeophile.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 544 ✭✭✭Pookah


    Moro Man wrote: »
    My point was , even though he broke no laws in the country he was in, in this country you'll get sent down for sleeping with a 16 year old, be put on the sex offenders register and forever more be knowns a a padeophile.

    He didn't do it in this country, so it's a non-issue really.

    Sorry for his wife and family but legally he's done nothing wrong. And your continuing to label him a paedophile still doesn't make him one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Moro Man wrote: »
    and forever more be knowns a a padeophile.

    Maybe by you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    Moro Man wrote: »
    My point was , even though he broke no laws in the country he was in, in this country you'll get sent down for sleeping with a 16 year old, be put on the sex offenders register and forever more be knowns a a padeophile.

    And as others have pointed out, if you're 18 in this country and drink you'd be viewed as committing a crime in the U.S.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,213 ✭✭✭✭therecklessone


    AH delivers again, woohoo!

    p.s. I think there's an S missing from the OP's username.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭CiaranC


    Moro Man wrote: »
    My point was , even though he broke no laws in the country he was in, in this country you'll get sent down for sleeping with a 16 year old, be put on the sex offenders register and forever more be knowns a a padeophile.
    Paedophiles are attracted to children. A 16 year old is fully physically sexually mature. See?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 544 ✭✭✭Pookah



    p.s. I think there's an S missing from the OP's username.

    Mosro Man?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,260 ✭✭✭Juwwi


    I wonder why it does'nt give his age in the story.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Moro Man wrote: »
    S

    But seeing as he admits to having an affair with an girl who would be considered underage in this country can we refer to him a paedophile?

    I suggest you learn the meaning of the word
    It has nothing to do with 16 year olds


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,741 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    to me the country where the crime is committed should be irrelevant, whereby you label someone a paedophile - if someone sleeps with a 14 year old in South East Asia they are a paedophile in my mind - this case is a bit borderline - there should be a cut off age worl wide of 14 or 15


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,213 ✭✭✭✭therecklessone


    Pookah wrote: »
    Mosro Man?

    That's the one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭Moro Man


    So while on a School tour to Spain, your 13 year old daughter/niece etc gets plied with drink by some 50 something teacher and he bones her afterwards. You'd all be fine with that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    The article is on a 16 year.

    Why are you now changing to 13?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    doesn't age of consent have some extra legislation about having sex with a minor abroad?

    I remember a thread like this came up before and someone quoted Spain's legal age. another poster said that you could still be arrested in Ireland and law was there to stop sex tourism.

    I could be remembering all this wrong.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 544 ✭✭✭Pookah


    thebaz wrote: »
    there should be a cut off age worl wide of 14 or 15

    For Jewish males, the cut-off age is usually at 7-8 days old.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭Moro Man


    The article is on a 16 year.

    Why are you now changing to 13?

    13 is legal in Spain




  • i dunno why people are hung up on whether he is a pedo or not he is a old man preying on a young impressionable girl and a cheater which in my eyes makes him scum end of .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Victor McDade


    AH delivers again, woohoo!

    p.s. I think there's an S missing from the OP's username.

    I think it's a "N"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,213 ✭✭✭✭therecklessone


    I think it's a "N"

    You might, I still think it's an S.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭Moro Man


    i dunno why people are hung up on whether he is a pedo or not he is a old man preying on a young impressionable girl and a cheater which in my eyes makes him scum end of .

    You may not believe it but this was the point I making.

    The smug bastard is saying he did nothing wrong because it wasn't ''illegal''.

    Most moral minded people don't need to check the law book of the jurisdiction they are currently in to see whether something is right or wrong - they know before they do something.

    In this country 18 year olds have been sent down, placed on the sex offender register and will forever more be known as paedophiles (even if the phrase is used out of context) for sleeping with 16 year olds.

    We then have this prick looking for sympathy, and seems to be taking the moral high ground in a national newspaper that is published in a country where his actions would see him (in all likelyhood ) behind bars.

    I know what a paedophile is, but get a conviction for sex with a minor and you will be labelled a kiddy-fiddler no matter what the age of the child is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 371 ✭✭Seosaimh77


    doesn't age of consent have some extra legislation about having sex with a minor abroad?

    I'm not definite but I'm currently sitting Criminal Law exams and what I have studied doesn't mention anything on this at all. It might not be on my syllabus or something so I could be missing something, but as far as I know it's not an issue.

    The age of consent is an arbitrary decision made by each country to try to fit the social morals of that country. Even each country changes their age of consent to suit changing societal ideas.

    He has done nothing illegal (i think) but that doesn't mean that you are not allowed to be morally outraged by it. Personally I'm not morally outraged by it anymore than I would be by people who go to Amsterdam for a joint and a prostitute.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭CiaranC


    Moro Man wrote: »
    You may not believe it but this was the point I making.

    The smug bastard is saying he did nothing wrong because it wasn't ''illegal''.
    Where is he saying he did nothing wrong? And its not illegal, nor is it paedophilia, get over it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,193 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    Where were her parents? Daddy must be fuming!

    Anybody else find it strange that this made it into the Independant?..He didn't break any laws, yet they see it fit to publish it for all to see. They might as well have released the girls name as well ffs!

    I wouln't condone having it off with a 16 year old but it seems like a witch hunt for some reason


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    Moro Man wrote: »
    Someone should tell the smug prick that 17 is the age of consent in this country

    I'm sure he knows that already.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Aswerty


    Moro Man wrote: »
    You may not believe it but this was the point I making.

    The smug bastard is saying he did nothing wrong because it wasn't ''illegal''.

    Most moral minded people don't need to check the law book of the jurisdiction they are currently in to see whether something is right or wrong - they know before they do something.

    In this country 18 year olds have been sent down, placed on the sex offender register and will forever more be known as paedophiles (even if the phrase is used out of context) for sleeping with 16 year olds.

    We then have this prick looking for sympathy, and seems to be taking the moral high ground in a national newspaper that is published in a country where his actions would see him (in all likelyhood ) behind bars.

    I know what a paedophile is, but get a conviction for sex with a minor and you will be labelled a kiddy-fiddler no matter what the age of the child is.

    I think most peoples problem is that this has nothing to do with pedophilia yet you keep bringing it up. Just because old wans in this country would label him as such merely means they're idiots. Yes this guy looking at the circumstances could very well be taking advantage of a young woman which is shameful, on the other hand she may have known full well what she was about when she had sex with him.

    I think a 16 year old is pretty mature and I wouldn't have a problem if the age of consent was lowered to 16 in this country. The fact is that if an 18 year old is branded a pedophile for having sex with a 16 year old it is a disgrace as far as I'm concerned.

    Bringing the age of consent in Spain into the equation is irrelevant to this particular story. I and I would assume others are saying what he did isn't really wrong because they think a 16 year old is capable of consenting to sex regardless of what our laws say.

    When your looking at people bordering the age of consent things can be morally dodgy whether your just above or just below the line but they don't necessarily have to be. It's all circumstantial.




  • Seosaimh77 wrote: »

    The age of consent is an arbitrary decision made by each country to try to fit the social morals of that country. Even each country changes their age of consent to suit changing societal ideas.

    He has done nothing illegal (i think) but that doesn't mean that you are not allowed to be morally outraged by it. Personally I'm not morally outraged by it anymore than I would be by people who go to Amsterdam for a joint and a prostitute.

    surely age of consent is set to protect minors ?? not to satisfy societies attitudes ?

    buying the services of a prostitute and smoking hash are in no way comparable to seducing a 16 year old .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭KungPao


    Moro Man wrote: »
    13 is legal in Spain

    *books flight*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Moro Man wrote: »
    .. can we refer to him a paedophile?

    If you want, in the same way that we can refer to you as: Toffee Crisp Man, I suppose.

    If accuracy is something that your interested in though, you could properly refer to him as a Ephebophile.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    If accuracy is something that your interested in though, you could properly refer to him as a Ephebophile.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia

    Not sure if that's quite right, Pete.
    Ephebophilia strictly denotes the preference for mid-to-late adolescent sexual partners, not the mere presence of some level of sexual attraction.

    There's no evidence that he prefers adolescents. A browse through his porn stash might settle the issue.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    KungPao wrote: »
    *books flight*

    JUST WAIT TILL YOU'RE SIXTEEN. WHAT'S THE RUSH?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Aswerty wrote: »
    It's normal for men to be physically attracted to 16 year old girls

    Here's one man who's not.

    And I'd be surprised if too many (if any) of my mates would be sexually attracted to a 16yr old kid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Non issue really as long as there were consent and all was legal.

    It's like smoking weed in Holland, fine to do it there, not so fine to do it here.

    When in Rome and all that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭laugh


    Did we end up with these ages of consent for modern moral reasons or to give girls a chance to finish education?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭SugarHigh


    Here's one man who's not.

    And I'd be surprised if too many (if any) of my mates would be sexually attracted to a 16yr old kid.
    What about a 16 year old who looks like a 20 year old?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 544 ✭✭✭Pookah


    SugarHigh wrote: »
    What about a 16 year old who looks like a 20 year old?

    At my age there's very few 20 year olds I'd find sexually attractive, but that's just my preference and I wouldn't knock anyone for their (legally-held) preferences.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    There's no evidence that he prefers adolescents.

    Well, there's at least some evidence that he has somewhat of an interest in them.

    Whereas, there is none that he has an interest whatsoever in prepubescent children.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Pookah wrote: »
    At my age there's very few 20 year olds I'd find sexually attractive, but that's just my preference and I wouldn't knock anyone for their (legally-held) preferences.

    Liar :P

    How old are you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    Well, there's at least some evidence that he does.

    Whereas, there is none that he has any interest in prepubescent children.

    True!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 544 ✭✭✭Pookah


    Liar :P

    How old are you?

    34 and a half.

    Young 'uns (for the most part) just don't do it for me.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Moro Man wrote: »
    My point was , even though he broke no laws in the country he was in, in this country you'll get sent down for sleeping with a 16 year old, be put on the sex offenders register and forever more be knowns a a paedophile.
    While I can understand the upset and the repulsiveness at he having sex with a 16 year old (father of 3 girls here) - there is an important point for me sticking out.

    He broke no legal laws in where the act was done.
    He should not be automatically punished as such then because he sets foot back in Ireland just because our laws are different.*

    If countries started punishing people (as soon as they set foot on another foreign soil) for things they did back home here, Irish people would be automatically stoned to death for adultery they might have committed here but had not done in Iran for example!

    As much as I am personally repulsed at his action, to slap him with automatic punishments soon as he lands in the country, is a no-no with me.

    Then we have the example of Gary Glitter - I bring this up for good reason - Mr Glitter committed heinous acts that was BOTH illegal in his home country (England) and Vietnam he did it in. For those acts that were illegal in both states, England sought to protect its nations young children by imposing a further penalty on his return.
    The difference between Mr Boland's act and Mr Glitter act was that of state laws applying equally in one case and not in the other.

    Again, as much as Mr Bolands acts repulses me, it would be wrong for us to just start imposing penalties for acts done elsewhere without proper legal basis.
    Should we automatically chops hands off an Irish person when he returns because he might have been caught and convicted of stealing in Iraq?


    * (Our laws apply to acts committed on our island, I know that's obvious but it has to be restated)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭CiaranC


    Pookah wrote: »
    34 and a half.

    Young 'uns (for the most part) just don't do it for me.
    Youre some spoofer. :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭SugarHigh


    Pookah wrote: »
    At my age there's very few 20 year olds I'd find sexually attractive, but that's just my preference and I wouldn't knock anyone for their (legally-held) preferences.
    I think you're definitely full of sh1t and you just realised you no longer have a chance with young women so you've convinced yourself you don't want them. It's like when fat people pretend they don't find skinny people attractive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 544 ✭✭✭Pookah


    :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    SugarHigh wrote: »
    I think you're definitely full of sh1t and you just realised you no longer have a chance with young women so you've convinced yourself you don't want them. It's like when fat people pretend they don't find skinny people attractive.

    He prefers older people. What's controversial about that? Also, many people (and indeed entire cultures) don't regard skinny people as attractive.


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