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New statue of girl on horse unveiled - looks good?

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  • #32
    xzanti
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    She looks like Anto's mott.


  • #33
    magick
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    Biggins wrote: »
    I just don't get it.

    Whats the relationship/connection between a young girl in a tracksuit on a horse and the area the statue was placed in?

    Is there a prize for solving the mystery of the artist's sculpture?

    If you didnt grow up in the 80s watch "into the west"


  • #34
    Darlughda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭Darlughda


    Biggins wrote: »
    I just don't get it.

    Whats the relationship/connection between a young girl in a tracksuit on a horse and the area the statue was placed in?

    Is there a prize for solving the mystery of the artist's sculpture?

    Galway boy.


  • #35
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Darlughda wrote: »
    Galway boy.
    Forgive my stupidity. I have still not a clue.


  • #36
    prinz
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    Terry wrote: »
    The only difference between horse riders in Dublin and those in Kildare are the clothes. But let's not allow that to get in the way of some good old fashioned AH snobbery. OMG Skangers on horses lol

    I'd say the DSPCA experience would lead to a different conclusion.


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  • #37
    starbelgrade
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    Hey Tayto.. are we in the West yet?


  • #38
    Aidric
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    Trinity Comprehensive

    lol


  • #39
    starbelgrade
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    Biggins wrote: »
    I just don't get it.

    Whats the relationship/connection between a young girl in a tracksuit on a horse and the area the statue was placed in?

    Is there a prize for solving the mystery of the artist's sculpture?

    Ballymun - like most working class areas in the 80s & early 90s - used to be full of scobies in tracksuits riding horses.


  • #40
    prinz
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    starbelgrade wrote: »
    Ballymun - like most working class areas in the 80s & early 90s - used to be full of scobies in tracksuits riding horses.

    There's still a few of them about.


  • #41
    Terry
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    Hazys wrote: »
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=2055963097

    TBH i havent really followed the story so i dont know if the statue was built or still to be built
    Meh. Local boy done good. I see the thread is locked. I'll just say that I see no harm in this. He was known around the world.
    I'm waiting for the day that AH explodes when something is named after Bono.
    Biggins wrote: »
    I just don't get it.

    Whats the relationship/connection between a young girl in a tracksuit on a horse and the area the statue was placed in?

    Is there a prize for solving the mystery of the artist's sculpture?

    Quite a lot of people in the area ride horses whilst wearing tracksuits.


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  • #42
    squod
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    Biggins wrote: »
    I just don't get it.

    Whats the relationship/connection between a young girl in a tracksuit on a horse and the area the statue was placed in?

    Is there a prize for solving the mystery of the artist's sculpture?

    The regeneration project seemed to make the place look nicer, then some artist type sticks it to the people with a giant put-down. How would you feel?


  • #43
    Morlar
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    I thought art was supposed to be uplifting and inspirational - that is just bleak and depressing, glorifying patronising negative stereotypes. imo.


  • #44
    Biggins
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    starbelgrade wrote: »
    Ballymun - like most working class areas in the 80s & early 90s - used to be full of scobies in tracksuits riding horses.
    O' right. I didn't want to be derogatory towards the area generally and guess it might be that, thus my asking. :)

    Who's Galway boy?


  • #45
    Darlughda
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    Biggins wrote: »
    Forgive my stupidity. I have still not a clue.

    Ok. Sorry didn't mean to be mean! I like Galway boys.:)

    The Ballymun area has been through hell and back. From the removal of people from established communities in the crumblings of the inner city of Dublin in the 1960's, to the heroin epidemics, and horrendous suicide statistics to ongoing prejudices to this day of people being scumbags, knackers, thieves etc from that area.

    The regeneration and the axis arts area has been a whole new way for people, and especially disenfrancished young ones from the area to find a voice. They managed to have a concert of hip-hop with NY performers along with seriously talented young people from the area with the traditional Irish music sean-nós singers from Donegal.

    The warrior queen on her horse brings to mind Macha and Queen Medb.

    There are still many horses around the Ballymun area, that is part and parcel of an older tradition that was romanticised in the film 'Into the West'.

    The tracksuit/Pyjamas is (imho) a defiant statement of up yours to the middle class culture of grey/black corporate suits rush houring like sardines to their conventional jobs that people whose address are in a certain area would never have a chance of an interview, boom time or not.


  • #46
    recylingbin
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    Let's name it:

    Beth on the geegee.


  • #47
    squod
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    Tracki an the knacki


  • #48
    prinz
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    Darlughda wrote: »
    The tracksuit/Pyjamas is (imho) a defiant statement of up yours to the middle class culture of grey/black corporate suits rush houring like sardines to their conventional jobs that people whose address are in a certain area would never have a chance of an interview, boom time or not.

    It's nothing but further ingraining that kind of cod and excuses tbh. There's nothing more patronising than telling people they have nothing better to aim for than repeating the negative stereotypes of the past.
    Teach people to do nothing but give defiant up yours to people they end up abdicating personal responsibility. My boss hails from up one of the towers, now he is a "corporate suit".


  • #49
    recylingbin
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    Darlughda wrote: »

    The tracksuit/Pyjamas is (imho) a defiant statement of up yours to the middle class culture of grey/black corporate suits rush houring like sardines to their conventional jobs that people whose address are in a certain area would never have a chance of an interview, boom time or not.
    Is it? Or is it just laziness?


  • #50
    Biggins
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    I still find it strange.
    I can see a car passing every day with a child in the back of it asking;

    "Dad? Why is there a woman in a tracksuit on a horse?"

    "Dunno son, maybe she was a local famous jockey or something!"


  • #51
    Morlar
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    prinz wrote: »
    It's nothing but further ingraining that kind of cod and excuses tbh. There's nothing more patronising than telling people they have nothing better to aim for than repeating the negative stereotypes of the past.
    Teach people to do nothing but give defiant up yours to people they end up abdicating personal responsibility. My boss hails from up one of the towers, now he is a "corporate suit".

    I hail from that area too (originally) and couldn't agree more. This sounds like the usual middle-class, almost anthropological attitude towards working class areas. It helps no one and achieves nothing. Except to legitimise an anti-aspirational outlook. again imo.


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  • #52
    Nodin
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    Whats negative about a person from a working class background riding a horse.....?


  • #53
    My name is URL
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    It wouldn't matter what the statue represented or depicted, there'd still be people to give out about it.


  • #54
    recylingbin
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    Nodin wrote: »
    Whats negative about a person from a working class background riding a horse.....?
    LIDL have been on this shít for years.


  • #55
    Darlughda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭Darlughda


    prinz wrote: »
    It's nothing but further ingraining that kind of cod and excuses tbh. There's nothing more patronising than telling people they have nothing better to aim for than repeating the negative stereotypes of the past.
    Teach people to do nothing but give defiant up yours to people they end up abdicating personal responsibility. My boss hails from up one of the towers, now he is a "corporate suit".

    Fair enough. I hear what you are saying. Nonetheless, is the corporate suit really such an ideal to aim for?


  • #56
    Nodin
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    recylingbin wrote: »
    LIDL have been on this shít for years.

    ...doubtless entirely due to my stupidity, you'll have to explain that to me....


  • #57
    IvySlayer
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    She should of been wearing pyjamas :D


  • #58
    Morlar
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    Nodin wrote: »
    Whats negative about a person from a working class background riding a horse.....?

    Why not place it smack bang in the middle of Sorrento point then ? Or across the road from your house ?

    Why does a piece of art designed to be placed in a historically working class have to be one of such a negative stereotype ? This is aside from the fact that to my tastes that is no more art than an oil painting of frank gallagher out of 'shameless' or some other rancid cliche.


  • #59
    latenia
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    spurious wrote: »
    Interesting that some here think just because she's one of the kids that take care of horses, that she hasn't got a Leaving Cert..

    Oh noes, but how could she without grinds and like, private school?

    Maybe you should talk to someone in the DSPCA about what 'taking care' of those poor animals entails. A statue of a diseased and emaciated nag tied up by a piece of old rope around its neck surrounded by burnt-out cars would be more appropriate.


  • #60
    Copper23
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    I wonder if it has a slogan like "juicy" on the arse pockets there for all eternity?


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  • #61
    prinz
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    Darlughda wrote: »
    Fair enough. I hear what you are saying. Nonetheless, is the corporate suit really such an ideal to aim for?

    The ideal doesn't have to be corporate or suit or whatever. There are far more constructive things to symbolise Ballymun than a trackie on a horse if you want to go down that route, besides idealising that stereotype. Not to mention better ways to spend the cash.

    I know a lot of people would love to indulge in the romantic notion of the younguns from the 'mun on their horses etc doing nobody any harm. I am living in the area and have seen a few of these horses up close, although thankfully the numbers seem to be decreasing, and they are often in an awful sorry state, of course you don't see that reflected in the statue.


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