Prostitution in Ireland.

Scarinae · 05-09-2010 05:55PM

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

Wives suffer similar obligations.

Where do you live, Afghanistan?

starbelgrade · 05-09-2010 06:06PM

Paying for sex with prostitutes is like making your cat dance with you on its hind legs.

You know it's wrong, but you try to convince yourself that they're enjoying it as well.

-Corkie- · 05-09-2010 06:13PM

I know a farmer that visited a prostitute once.
First it was too dry then it was too wet and then he complained about the price..

Herb Powell · 05-09-2010 06:18PM

Burial wrote: »

The laws are in effect to stop human trafficking and stop debt bondage

teehee

Millicent · 05-09-2010 06:28PM

Sheeps wrote: »

I found out the other night that prostitution is legal in Ireland. Our government has decided at some point that selling your body for sexual activities is deemed acceptable in our society. Would you consider sleeping with a prostitute shameful? Did you know that prostitution was legal in this country? Did you know that the red light district in Dublin was once one of the biggest red light districts in Europe? How aware are you of prostitution in Ireland? Would you/Have you ever had sex with a hooker in Ireland?

Prostitution in Ireland is technically legal because of pressure from advocacy groups.Buying sex is illegal. The thinking is that you are making criminals out of vulnerable people who are non-violent and only taking advantage of a marketplace.

They criminalise the buyers who are seen to be taken advantage of the women.

Even as a feminist, this viewpoint makes me uncomfortable, like the women involved are so weak and easily corrupted that they have to be protected from big bad men. Completely ignoring the fact that there are (usually) two consenting adults involved in the transaction.

ETA: I can see the wisdom of it where trafficked women are exploited.

Mike 1972 · 05-09-2010 06:51PM

Millicent wrote: »

ETA: I can see the wisdom of it where trafficked women are exploited.

That can be used as an argument for the legalisation/regulation or the further criminalisation of prostution TBH

ilovelamp2000 · 05-09-2010 06:51PM

CorkMan wrote: »

We look at MTV and every video has girls in tight jeans and their stomach and arms exposed. Its practically a porn channel sometimes.

You've been watching some really **** porn dude

Millicent · 05-09-2010 07:19PM

Mike 1972 wrote: »

That can be used as an argument for the legalisation/regulation or the further criminalisation of prostution TBH

To criminalise it drives it underground though. I'd use trafficked women as one of the best arguments for legalisation or regulation of the prostitution industry.

rubadub · 05-09-2010 08:24PM

k_mac wrote: »

It's illegal for a punter to solicit a prostitute.

It's illegal to have a third party arrange the deal.

It's illegal to advertise your sexual services for money.

So there is no way you can actually come to an agreement with a punter without breaking the law. So while the act itself is not illegal. The steps you must take before it are.

King Felix wrote: »

It's illegal to solicit on the street.

And it's illegal to run a brothel, to have a premises as a brothel, to organise prostitution, to advertise sex for sale or a brothel, to coerce another into prostitution or to live off the earnings of the prostitution.

Apart from that it's all fine and dandy.

Apart from that! that is some list, and that is what many people would consider "normal prostitution", so is it any surprise people are saying it is illegal or unaware of all these restrictions -yet people are still giving blunt answers like "NO", "its legal".

It would be like me saying

Did you know growing cannabis sativa is legal here, did you know that?

"its illegal"

-No its not, look it up before making a fucking fool of yourself, Oh did I neglect to say you needed a license and it can only be certain approved varities, still perfectly legal though.

Pauleta · 05-09-2010 09:09PM

I think its illegal to pay somebody for sex but the loophole that is used is that the escorts charge for their time and what they do in that time is down to the escort, if you get my drift

Donkey Oaty · 05-09-2010 09:43PM

Pauleta wrote: »

I think its illegal to pay somebody for sex but the loophole that is used is that the escorts charge for their time and what they do in that time is down to the escort, if you get my drift

Not so, Pauleta - paying for sex is legal. Asking for it or advertising for it isn't.

Tar.Aldarion · 05-09-2010 09:47PM

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

Not so, Pauleta - paying for sex is legal. Asking for it or advertising for it isn't.

I'm screwed.

Donkey Oaty · 05-09-2010 10:03PM

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

I'm screwed.

Hilarious reply: you're buggered.

Donkey Oaty · 05-09-2010 10:08PM

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

I'm screwed.

Having re-read my post, I'm buggered.

Not a bad feeling, actually.

Erica<3 · 05-09-2010 10:16PM

As me granny used to say : 'De city wouldn't be safe for wimen if it weren't for dem girls!' :rolleyes:

Star Bingo · 05-09-2010 10:22PM

easy money for gettin off its so unfair. can be addictive too from what i've read its too alluring get pleasured / get paid i mean WTF

i've a pal of sorts who visits em, i don't see him often he's always abroad 10 months a year on ship maintenance.. but when he spouts the 'when was the last time' sh!t i tell im same as last time only longer. with a GF - thing is i don't ask him back as it was with a whore, so the more recent the less credible. guy even called me up with one once in the company of one 'i'm with a girl.. in bed' like some brag but all i could ask was how much was she

Lone Stone · 05-09-2010 10:31PM

I was on the dart a few weeks ago and there was this posh twat on his mobile talking out loud to his mate how he payed for the sex the night before and there was a load of them on some website everyone could hear him and was making the :rolleyes: face at each other.

Anyway i think its illegal to PAY for sex but not to charge for it...

Darlughda · 05-09-2010 10:37PM

Sheeps wrote: »

I found out the other night that prostitution is legal in Ireland. Our government has decided at some point that selling your body for sexual activities is deemed acceptable in our society. Would you consider sleeping with a prostitute shameful?
No
Did you know that prostitution was legal in this country?

No, actually this thread has been informative (a first for AH?)

Did you know that the red light district in Dublin was once one of the biggest red light districts in Europe?

Yes, along with the worst slums in Europe, the monto district was famous, frequented by many upper middle class and aristocratic types towards the end of the 19th century and right up to the 1920/30's.

How aware are you of prostitution in Ireland?

Aware of the lower levels i.e., streetwork and advertised escorts,but as far as the 'high class' call girls scene have very little knowledge.

Would you/Have you ever had sex with a hooker in Ireland?

No, as there are an abundance of men online begging for nsa sex.

I would definitely be in favour of fully legitimizing the business, as Millicent said, that would go a long way towards dealing with the trafficking issue.

I abhor the whole Ruhama catholic thing. Instead of insisting women are victims, in a legitimate regularized industry, sex workers could have protection, legal rights and safety that is not possible under morality driven laws at present.

Noodleworm · 05-09-2010 11:11PM

theres websites for escorts in Ireland, pretty much the same as prostitution. I think if it was illigal it woild be harder to find than using google.
Honestly, I can't see why people would go into prosecution if they could avoid it, At the least they can work on as a camgirl or something online and not have to touch anyone.

Street prostitution, is illegal afaik, and with good reason. Girls doing that could be either trafficked, or need the money for drugs.
Allowing brothels to be run legally, under strict rules and regulations is fine IMO, if you can't stop something, at least make sure its safe, healthy, and no ones being exploited.

Darlughda · 05-09-2010 11:13PM

Noodleworm wrote: »

At the least they can work on as a camgirl or something online and not have to touch anyone.

Whats a camgirl?

snakeeye · 05-09-2010 11:14PM

if it pays the bills get her out there

Rabble Rabble · 05-09-2010 11:22PM

Mrmoe wrote: »

I do not see any justification for prostitution to be illegal. I can understand why kerb crawling is illegal as it creates hassle for local residents. I don't see any difference between prostitution and porn.

Quite, since pornstars are paid there is no difference.

Darlughda · 06-09-2010 12:02AM

Okay have just discovered what camgirls are.

Sh1t, you can get paid for that!! sure I thought that was how you moved on from the emailing to an irl date! (joke.... ok?!!)

Anyway, kind of like the quagmire that is sex texts and emails of the same ilk. These are usually agreed (if you look in RI) as betraying a partner, so how is doing the cam girl thing really different from working as a prostitute?

SuperInfinity · 06-09-2010 01:44AM

If you're against prostitution, you're a dinosaur and an idiot.

Star Bingo · 06-09-2010 02:10AM

what?! i'm not giving some hewer the pleasure then paying her..

Nulty · 06-09-2010 02:20AM

Is getting a prostitute not like going out to dinner, whereas fishing for wimmin is like cooking at home?

How is going "out to dinner" shameful?

Darlughda · 06-09-2010 03:03AM

Nulty wrote: »

Is getting a prostitute not like going out to dinner, whereas fishing for wimmin is like cooking at home?

How is going "out to dinner" shameful?

Exactly, to a pay for the sexual act might actually release the man from the whole area of deception, pretense and betrayal, however that is usually not enought for people who find themselves interested in more than the initial or casual sexual contact with someone other than their partner.

demonspawn · 06-09-2010 03:14AM

I like prostitutes. They love me when no other woman will.

louloumc89 · 06-09-2010 07:29AM

I live in Limerick city center, and about two months ago, just right outside my house became the new prostitute hang out. Not being bad right, but they dance on the street and everything. There is dodgy ****ers that drive by in their cars all the time. And the cops know, and they defo have pimps. Like me and the girls I live with get cars slowing down to us all the time as we're walking anywhere near our house. It's kind a scary like! I got home from the pub the other night and there was a crowd of like 4 or 5 prostitutes sheltering on the street under the protection of the trees that are in my garden. We didn't know what was going on.

I don't particularly mind prostitutes, legalise it away. But take it away from my house, it's not nice nice getting hassled by pervy punters for walking down the street to and from your gaff (in a t-shirt and jeans like!).

Motley Crue · 03-12-2010 11:29AM

I recently read an article about Irish Prostitution. It claims that while many acts, such as soliciting and operating a brothel are illegal, the act of prostitution between two consenting adults (presumably done in private or secret) is perfectly legal.

The only stipulation is that Ireland's law demands you are 18 to be a prostitute. Surely somebody in the Government has raised the issue of changing the law so that people can be prosecuted for acts of prostitution?

In these economic times, or just generally Irish times, is Prostitution actually that prevalent in Ireland? Have I been living under a rock for most of my life because, and I've heard stories from the likes of Leeson Street, but never had much knowledge that prostitution really existed in Ireland.

My question, would you pay for sex with a complete stranger as if it were another business transaction?

Prostitution in Ireland.

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