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Prostitution in Ireland.

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    #32
    Scarinae
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    aurelius79 wrote: »
    I'd visit a prostitute if I weren't so shy about the whole thing. It's not much different than having a girlfriend except I don't have to take a prostitute out for dinner, buy her ridiculously overpriced perfume for her birthday, or put up with the constant nagging and attempts to change me. Not a bad deal if you ask me. Ban marriage and legalize prostitution, it's the only way forward.

    :rolleyes: Yup, cos all women are just in it for the dinners and the perfume. I'm glad that you have used your superior insight to categorise half the population as money-grubbing nags


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    #33
    Donkey Oaty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    jptk wrote: »
    Take other posters advice and actually look it up before posting your opinion. It is legal.

    Is kerb-crawling legal, though? This is from the Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) Act 1993.
    (1) A member of the Garda Síochána who has reasonable cause to suspect that a person is loitering in a street or public place in order to solicit or importune another person or other persons for the purposes of prostitution may direct that person to leave immediately that street or public place.

    (2) A person who without reasonable cause fails to comply with a direction under subsection (1) shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding—

    (a) £250, in the case of a first conviction,
    (b) £500, in the case of a second conviction, or
    (c) £500 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 4 weeks or to both, in the case of a third or any subsequent conviction.

    3) In this section "loitering" includes loitering in a motor vehicle.


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    #34
    Wolfe Tone
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    Fishie wrote: »
    :rolleyes: Yup, cos all women are just in it for the dinners and the perfume. I'm glad that you have used your superior insight to categorise half the population as money-grubbing nags
    Damn bitches.


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    #35
    Dave D
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    The-Rigger wrote: »
    Was or is?
    By what metric?

    Sounds like bollox to me.


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monto

    always reminds me of this :D
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wny_0pi4hR4


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    #36
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Prostitution in Ireland (and the UK) is theoretically legal but to do so without keeping a brothel (a premises with two or more prostitutes), soliciting, living off earnings of prostitution, advertising or living off the proceeds is a pretty neat trick.
    Sheeps wrote: »
    selling your body for sexual activities
    Youre confusing selling with renting
    Sheeps wrote: »
    is deemed acceptable in our society.
    Adultery is generally frowned upon by society but nobody ever "decided" it should be legal. It just is.
    Sheeps wrote: »
    Would you consider sleeping with a prostitute shameful?
    Not really however I would regard it as rather a waste of money :pac:
    Sheeps wrote: »
    Would you/Have you ever had sex with a hooker in Ireland?

    I wouldnt have sex with a prostitute in Ireland not because of any ethical issue with prostituution per se but because of other considerations among them being the rather high probability that the prostitute had been traffiked/forced into it.

    Were I single and living in a civilised country where such activities were legislated for and regulated then I possibly would.


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    #37
    Sheeps
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    Donkey Oaty wrote: »
    Is kerb-crawling legal, though? This is from the Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) Act 1993.

    Yes, these laws however have no jurisdiction over advertising on the internet and in magazines for escort services, which is where the Irish prostitution industry is considered to be fairly well developed more so than any were else.


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    #38
    Donkey Oaty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    Sheeps wrote: »
    Yes, these laws however have no jurisdiction over advertising on the internet and in magazines for escort services, which is where the Irish prostitution industry is considered to be fairly well developed more so than any were else.

    Okay, but I was responding to this:
    Originally Posted by The Highwayman [
    Ok go down the Baggot St. area and stop your car pick up a hooker and see what happens if the cops catch you.

    Edit: Sorry, missed your "however".


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    #39
    Mrmoe
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    I do not see any justification for prostitution to be illegal. I can understand why kerb crawling is illegal as it creates hassle for local residents. I don't see any difference between prostitution and porn.


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    #40
    Mike 1972
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    Mrmoe wrote: »
    I don't see any difference between prostitution and porn.

    I can download a free prostitute off the internet :confused::confused::confused:


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    #41
    Fremen
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    Burial wrote: »
    The laws are in effect to stop human trafficking and stop debt bondage. Just because this guy was operating correctly doesn't make the act less llegal. He may get a reduced sentence for not abusing the girls he had in his brothel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debt_bondage#Modern_examples

    In fact even legal places like the Netherlands suffer from Human Trafficking. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_the_Netherlands#Human_trafficking


    EDIT: From this link in this wikipedia article on prosititution in Ireland. Even lap dancing has a problem with human trafficking.

    Some people, especially politicians, seem to have this idea that making something illegal makes people stop doing it.

    If you want to stop human trafficking, make prostitution legal so that everything's out in the open. Require prostitutes to speak to a social worker once a month.

    Black markets are extremely dangerous. They ensure that business is placed in the hands of exactly the type of people least suited to working ethically or responsibly.


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    #42
    CorkMan
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    It should be legal. We walk into centra and see porn magazines at the top of the shelf, how come that isn't banned? We look at MTV and every video has girls in tight jeans and their stomach and arms exposed. Its practically a porn channel sometimes.

    Yet we can't legally go to a prostitute to have some innocent sex? I was out in Madrid last year and there were prostitutes lining a high end street at 2 in the afternoon, at least 8. The police do nothing about it, they see it going on all the time, so I reckon it is only wink-wink nod-nod.

    In total I have gone to Madrid, Amsterdam and London out foreign and prostitution is clearly visible in them 3 cities, need I mind say the likes of Latin America and Asia. I think Ireland is sort of a one of country in that you don't see sex workers on the street. No doubt the catholic church has influenced the mindset of this country bigtime.


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    #43
    Mrmoe
    Registered Users Posts: 2,212 ✭✭✭Mrmoe


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    I can download a free prostitute off the internet :confused::confused::confused:

    Sure plus you get a 20% discount when you reach 10k posts on boards:pac:

    /Let the post whoring begin:D


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    #44
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Mrmoe wrote: »
    Sure plus you get a 20% discount

    20% discount on something thats already free ?

    Maybe I should download two then :pac:


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    #45
    Einhard
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    CorkMan wrote: »
    I think Ireland is sort of a one of country in that you don't see sex workers on the street. No doubt the catholic church has influenced the mindset of this country bigtime.

    I'm quite happy not to have prostitutes openly selling their wares on the street. It degrades both them and the area they're soliciting in. Much better to have it regulated and run from private apartments or houses.


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    #46
    Mike 1972
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    Einhard wrote: »
    I'm quite happy not to have prostitutes openly selling their wares on the street.

    Perhaps but I take it youve never been to Benburb Street in Dublin ?


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    #47
    Black Swan
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    No "free" drink?


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    #48
    King Felix
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    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    Perhaps but I take it youve never been to Benburb Street in Dublin ?

    The industry was derailed there, after the introduction of the LUAS.


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    #49
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Apoligies for my somewhat outdated knowledge of Dublin Geography. So am I to take it that all the whoring in the vincinity these days is largely confined to the four courts building ?


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    #50
    Scanlas The 2nd
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    Women having sex with a man out of obligation and not desire is a waste of time. A [EMAIL="wa@k"]wa@k[/EMAIL] would be better.


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    #51
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    For which party ?
    Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »
    Women having sex with a man out of obligation

    In a properly regulated and legal framework with pimps and traffikers taken out of the equation there is no obligation A prostitute is able to decline a prospective client at anytime.


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    #52
    MagicSean
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    It's illegal for a punter to solicit a prostitute.

    It's illegal to have a third party arrange the deal.

    It's illegal to advertise your sexual services for money.

    So there is no way you can actually come to an agreement with a punter without breaking the law. So while the act itself is not illegal. The steps you must take before it are.


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    #53
    MagicSean
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    Mrmoe wrote: »
    I do not see any justification for prostitution to be illegal. I can understand why kerb crawling is illegal as it creates hassle for local residents. I don't see any difference between prostitution and porn.

    Me neither. If you film your encounter with a prostitute you could have a good legal loophole.


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    #54
    ascanbe
    Registered Users Posts: 3,089 ✭✭✭ascanbe


    Have i ever had sex with a hooker in Ireland? Yes, in Galway once...i nearly drowned.
    Oh, and i gave one a rattle in Dublin, also..think his name was Shane Byrne.
    Thank you and good night.


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    #55
    Scanlas The 2nd
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    For which party ?



    In a properly regulated and legal framework with pimps and traffikers taken out of the equation there is no obligation A prostitute is able to decline a prospective client at anytime.

    After they receive the money there is an obligation even if they want to have sex with the man or not. Wives suffer similar obligations.


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    #56
    Donkey Oaty
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    Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »
    Wives suffer similar obligations.

    Mine doesn't.


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    #57
    Chorcai
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    Between 1923 and 1925, missions led by Frank Duff of the Roman Catholic organisation The Legion of Mary and Fr. R.S. Devane, worked to close down the brothels. They received the co-operation of Dublin Police Commissioner, General William Murphy, and the campaign ended with 120 arrests and the closure of the brothels following a police raid on 12 March 1925, its financial viability having already been seriously undermined by the withdrawal of soldiers from the city following the Anglo-Irish Treaty (December 1921) and the establishment of the Irish Free State (6 December 1922).

    Ironic a group of men from The Legion of Mary closing down the brothels. Holy Joe's ruin everything.


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    #58
    nice1franko
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monto

    edit- never mind, too late :(


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    #59
    Mrmoe
    Registered Users Posts: 2,212 ✭✭✭Mrmoe


    Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »
    After they receive the money there is an obligation even if they want to have sex with the man or not. Wives suffer similar obligations.

    No they do not. All they have to do is hand the money back and say they can go somewhere else.


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    #60
    Scanlas The 2nd
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    Donkey Oaty wrote: »
    Mine doesn't.

    Not all husbands are studs like you though.


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    #61
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »
    Wives suffer similar obligations.

    A wife can refuse her husband sex. the law was changed about 15 years ago IIRC


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