12-year-old girl found dead in Dublin

hotmail.com · 28-08-2010 07:38PM

To what extent, can we believe the statement that she stepped out.

Micky Dolenz · 28-08-2010 07:39PM

Please no speculation on how the child died.

WindSock · 28-08-2010 07:40PM

Jaysus, between this and the swimming pool thread yesterday, my folks should have been hunted down and flung in jail. Such a shame I wasn't locked up in my bedroom until I was 18.

jibblybitsy · 28-08-2010 07:42PM

12 years old walking through town on her own. the garda have to solve this one.

falan · 28-08-2010 07:49PM

Very sad news RIP

danbohan · 28-08-2010 07:50PM

The-Rigger wrote: »

And rightly so.
If they have other kids, they should be taken into care pending an investigation.

really , you should have been taken into care too then you might not have ended up been the calous individual you appear to be , have you given any thought to how those parents are feeling today or is that kind of human consideration beyond you ?

Overheal · 28-08-2010 07:53PM

Even for 12 you are or should be plenty familiar with your Home and the surrounding area enough to where whatever happened to her was nigh unorthodox.

Best hopes to the AGS on a speedy and fruitful investigation, and condolences to the family.

seniorolaighin · 28-08-2010 07:54PM

danbohan wrote: »

really , you should have been taken into care too then you might not have ended up been the calous individual you appear to be , have you given any thought to how those parents are feeling today or is that kind of human consideration beyond you ?

muppet.

Jesus Wept · 28-08-2010 07:55PM

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Jesus that is very near me. Those poor parents, whatever happened.

Poor parents alright, ****ing dire parents.

spider_pig · 28-08-2010 07:55PM

she step'd out at midnight for a few min but alarm wasnt raised till 2AM....

Mr. Manager · 28-08-2010 07:56PM

seniorolaighin wrote: »

As for the parents - it frankly is their fault. A child should not be left out alone after 9pm at night in my opinion. Social services need to ensure adequate safety for other children if indeed there is more.

Finally, it is a tragic story, but this young girl could potentially be alive today if good parenting ensured she was not let out or supervised if she needed to go out at that stage.

Who are you to say what good parenting is? As a poster has previously said, she may have just been popping across the road to drop something/collect something from a mate. She may have lived in a friendly neighborhood estate.

Have a bit of common courtesy and keep your opinion to yourself until more details have been released.

Overheal · 28-08-2010 07:56PM

The-Rigger wrote: »

Poor parents alright, ****ing dire parents.

Better than the parents who have no f*cking notion where there kids are at midnight on a Friday? What about them?

28-08-2010 07:59PM

spider_pig wrote: »

she step'd out at midnight for a few min but alarm wasnt raised till 2AM....

They probably spent time looking for her (friend's houses, places she'd normally hang out) before calling the Gardai.

AckwelFoley · 28-08-2010 08:03PM

I dont know.

If our kid turns around at 12 and says he's "stepping out" for a few mins at 12am i pressing pause on the sky plus turning to him- and while i laugh, ground him for being out of bed.

We'd deal with his reasons for where exactly he was to be going at that time the next morning.

Never the less, this is a sad story.

Kidchameleon · 28-08-2010 08:04PM

Ah leave the parents out of it, look at all the stick Madeline's folks got, didn't help the investigation one bit. So they let the girl out a 12 o'clock, that's in the past. What matters now is finding out what happened and if its not an accident, find the sicko who did it...

ShamoBuc · 28-08-2010 08:07PM

My god, the poor girl RIP

drunkmonkey · 28-08-2010 08:09PM

snyper wrote: »

I dont know.

If our kid turns around at 12 and says he's "stepping out" for a few mins at 12am i pressing pause on the sky plus turning to him- and while i laugh, ground him for being out of bed.

We'd deal with his reasons for where exactly he was to be going at that time the next morning.

Never the less, this is a sad story.

My dad was like that, hence I took the window option while he played with the tv remote.
Kids will be kids, we all broke the rules.

Pretty_Pistol · 28-08-2010 08:09PM

danbohan wrote: »

really , you should have been taken into care too then you might not have ended up been the calous individual you appear to be , have you given any thought to how those parents are feeling today or is that kind of human consideration beyond you ?

The parents being irresponsible has nothing to do with how they are feeling today?

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

Who are you to say what good parenting is? As a poster has previously said, she may have just been popping across the road to drop something/collect something from a mate. She may have lived in a friendly neighborhood estate.

Have a bit of common courtesy and keep your opinion to yourself until more details have been released.

I'd consider good parenting is having common sense and awareness of not letting a 12 year old out on her own at 12am even if it was just across the road.

28-08-2010 08:10PM

Regardless of the level of parenting: A 12 year old SHOULD be able to step outside her door at night without ending up dead on the banks of a canal.

hotmail.com · 28-08-2010 08:12PM

Kate Chilly Stock-still wrote: »

Regardless of the level of parenting: A 12 year old SHOULD be able to step outside her door at night without ending up dead on the banks of a canal.

Completely agree. However, things don't work like that in practice. It's such a shame.

BluesBerry · 28-08-2010 08:15PM

Jesus Christ Im just seeing this now I hope it was just some accident and not anything more sinister

My heart goes out to her family this is a terrible tragedy

I hate hearing news like this

Terry · 28-08-2010 08:15PM

the_syco wrote: »

Anyone have friends across the road from them?

Had a curfew around that age myself, but my friends at the time did not.

This.

Judging by some of the comments here, it seems that the only safe place for 12 year olds at night is Leixlip.

Even today, the local kids will sit outside talking to their friends late at night. Nothing bad ever happened any of us.

You can all get rage filled behind your keyboards all you want, but not one of you here knows the exact circumstances. Perhaps you could take into account that there are steep hills with granite jutting out all along that area, leading down to the canal. Maybe you could consider that her house may have been only a few hundred yards from the canal.
She also may have had friends who were down by the canal, or just thought they were there.

The point is, none of us know anything. It might be a good dea to not blame the parents, or anyone else, before allowing the Gardaí to do their job.

Condolences to her family and friends.

Mr. Manager · 28-08-2010 08:17PM

Pretty_Pistol wrote: »

I'd consider good parenting is having common sense and awareness of not letting a 12 year old out on her own at 12am even if it was just across the road.

I'd be fairly happy to let my 12 year old cross my road at midnight unattended. I grew up in a nice area and never feared what might happen when taking 24 steps to reach my friends house.

danbohan · 28-08-2010 08:17PM

Pretty_Pistol wrote: »

The parents being irresponsible has nothing to do with how they are feeling today?

I'd consider good parenting is having common sense and awareness of not letting a 12 year old out on her own at 12am even if it was just across the road.

do you think if they had another chance they would let her out tonight ? of course people like you never make mistakes .!

AckwelFoley · 28-08-2010 08:18PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

My dad was like that, hence I took the window option while he played with the tv remote.
Kids will be kids, we all broke the rules.

Did your dad ever catch you?

Pretty_Pistol · 28-08-2010 08:20PM

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

I'd be fairly happy to let me 12 year old cross my road at midnight unattended. I grew up in a nice area and never feared what might happen when taking 24 steps to reach my friends house.

That's a risk you take so.

I live in a nice area aswell but it doesn't mean things can't happen here too.

hotmail.com · 28-08-2010 08:22PM

Feel sorry for the passer by that encountered the body, I can't imagine that.

Pretty_Pistol · 28-08-2010 08:24PM

danbohan wrote: »

do you think if they had another chance they would let her out tonight ? of course people like you never make mistakes .!

Pretty sure no one would be saying anything about the parents if this happened at 6pm instead of 12am.

Mr. Manager · 28-08-2010 08:24PM

Pretty_Pistol wrote: »

That's a risk you take so.

I live in a nice area aswell but it doesn't mean things can't happen here too.

Now you're talking about 2 different things. Bad parenting and bad people. Letting a child out at night is not bad parenting, it is only considered bad parenting when a terrible incident like this occurs.

You cannot blame the parents for what may have happened to that poor girl.

Thuck_Fat · 28-08-2010 08:30PM

punchdrunk wrote: »

considering the scum they let out of prison early these days,im surprised it's not more common

too true

12-year-old girl found dead in Dublin

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