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The Irish Secret Service

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  • #32
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    I'm saying little, I'm bugged and followed enough as it is!


  • #33
    Jeboa Safari
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭Jeboa Safari


    sorry for reviving this but just found it. anyway found some quotes that give no answers :)
    I didn't know we had a secret service at all, they must be good
    Decades of Dáil questions but no real answers:

    1969
    "The nature of this service is such that, even if I had this information, it would not be in the public interest to give it."
    CJ Haughey responds to a question by Gerry L'Estrange.
    1986
    "The nature of secret service payments is such that to subject them to Dáil scrutiny would defeat the whole object of the expenditure."
    John Bruton responds to query by Gay Mitchell.
    1998
    "The purpose of the secret service is to obtain information necessary for the security of the State."
    Finance Minister Charlie McCreevy responds to a question by Trevor Sargent.
    2002
    "There is no secret service structure in this jurisdiction."
    Justice Minister Michael McDowell responds to a query by Aengus Ó Snodaigh.
    http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2004/04/24/story691136057.asp


  • #34
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Read, remember and swallow.


  • #35
    Misanthrope
    Closed Accounts Posts: 613 ✭✭✭Misanthrope


    They're probably busy doing dirty work for foreign governments or private enterprises while we get raped by banks and insurance companies.

    Our Rangers seem to be nothing more than guns for hire.They spend more time out of the country than in it,most likely doing dirty work for the US.I guess it's work experience.


  • #36
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Misanthrope wrote: »
    They're probably busy doing dirty work for foreign governments or private enterprises while we get raped by banks and insurance companies.

    Our Rangers seem to be nothing more than guns for hire.They spend more time out of the country than in it, most likely doing dirty work for the US.I guess it's work experience.

    Pure raving cobblers unless you can at least substantiate.

    P.S. The Conspiracy section is elsewhere.


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  • #37
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Surprised you all never knew this before.
    James bond is clearly Irish.
    He drinks, he gambles and his real name is Double O'Seven.


  • #38
    mp3kid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 146 ✭✭mp3kid


    starbelgrade wrote: »
    So what are they up to? Is there an "M" type figure developing hurley sticks that fire lazer beams?
    The plot thickens...


    That was "Q"


  • #39
    moonpurple
    Closed Accounts Posts: 852 ✭✭✭moonpurple


    in reply to OP
    maybe they are stopping future omagh bombs

    that would make them very good value

    better value than ivor '2 fingers to you all' callally


  • #40
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Also in reply to the OP:

    There are at least 6 known Islamic terrorist cells operating out of Ireland.
    Now keeping an eye on their activites alone I suspect is only part of their job/role.
    I'm assured that there are many other areas most don't realise.


  • #41
    Misanthrope
    Closed Accounts Posts: 613 ✭✭✭Misanthrope


    Biggins wrote: »
    Pure raving cobblers unless you can at least substantiate.

    P.S. The Conspiracy section is elsewhere.

    I did say probably.Do you think it's beyond the realm of possibility?

    Why do they dance to whatever tune the UN plays?Somalia,Liberia,East Timor?
    A neutral country is sending Special Ops units all around the world to conflicts we have nothing to do with.
    Who were they working for in Somalia?The yanks or the UN?

    If I had the evidence to substantiate my suspicions I wouldn't have even posted in this forum.I'd be straight to Wikileaks.

    Why is it when someone questions anything in the world today, out rolls the cretinous,one size fits all, 'conspiracy' accusation, as if it is totally outlandish to suggest that some people might be up to bad things.

    Conspiracy, the catchcry of the TV worshipping,lemming like herd.There are no conspiracies right?Just doesn't happen.Yet most of this herd totally and unconditionally believe there is a god and eternal life.Do yo believe that?


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  • #42
    Misanthrope
    Closed Accounts Posts: 613 ✭✭✭Misanthrope


    Biggins wrote: »
    Also in reply to the OP:

    There are at least 6 known Islamic terrorist cells operating out of Ireland.
    .
    Ehh.... can you substantiate that for me?And please don't quote me any source that also claimed there were WMDs in Iraq.Cheers.

    I mean that sounds like a..... like a....... like a Conspiracy Theory.


  • #43
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Misanthrope wrote: »
    Ehh.... can you substantiate that for me?And please don't quote me any source that also claimed there were WMDs in Iraq.Cheers.

    I mean that sounds like a..... like a....... like a Conspiracy Theory.

    CERTAINLY!

    An early report: http://www.rte.ie/news/2006/1024/alqaeda.html?rss
    Or maybe this - a report from the Times as regards to radicalism in Ireland and who's here!!!
    http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/3792/wwwtimesonlinecouktolne.jpg
    Or maybe another report: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2006/1024/1161565717023.html

    I don't spout speculative, unsubstantiated schite when I can help it - it sooner or later comes back to bite one in the arse and show idiots up for what they are!

    Conspiracy?
    Saturday March 01 2008

    Three Afghan men remain in Garda custody in Co Kerry on suspicion of terrorist activity.
    It follows a raid on a hostel in Tralee last night, during which suspected bomb parts were found.
    A team of twenty Gardai swooped on the Atlas House apartments in Tralee at around half-six last night, acting on intelligence from the Special Branch.
    The premises houses all-male asylum seekers.

    Inside they discovered what's being described as possible bomb-making equipment including electrical devices and remote controls.
    The devices are being examined by the Garda Technical Bureau this afternoon to see if they could make up viable explosives.
    Three men in their 30s and 40s from Afghanistan were arrested and are being detained under anti terrorist legislation.

    http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/national-news/three-afghan-men-remain-in-garda-custody-in-connection-with-terrorist-activity-1303402.html

    The Secret Service have their hands full, not just with the likes of the above and unless some else can prove different, they can take their ranting "Working for the USA" conspiracy crap and shove it up their arse!


  • #44
    Misanthrope
    Closed Accounts Posts: 613 ✭✭✭Misanthrope


    Biggins wrote: »
    CERTAINLY!

    An early report: http://www.rte.ie/news/2006/1024/alqaeda.html?rss
    Or maybe this - a report from the Times as regards to radicalism in Ireland and who's here!!!
    http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/3792/wwwtimesonlinecouktolne.jpg

    I don't spout speculative, unsubstantiated schite when I can help it - it sooner or later comes back to bite one in the arse and show idiots up for what they are!

    Oh it was on RTE, it came from the US Embassy and was confirmed by none other than........................... Bertie Ahern.You've got to be joking.

    And then The Sunday Times, who are quoting an eyewitness tweet.And Gardai were acting on info from the F B I,hardly a gleaming organisation now is it?
    How much explosive did they bust them with and what kind?Weapons?Any photos even?
    Have you got names and pictures of all those convicted?How long did they all get and what exactly were they charged with and found guilty of?

    Not very convincing sources.But hey if it was on the news.............and somebody tweeted about it, it must be true


  • #45
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Misanthrope wrote: »
    Oh it was on RTE, it came from the US Embassy and was confirmed by none other than........................... Bertie Ahern.You've got to be joking.

    And then The Sunday Times, who are quoting an eyewitness tweet.And Gardai were acting on info from the F B I,hardly a gleaming organisation now is it?
    How much explosive did they bust them with and what kind?Weapons?Any photos even?
    Have you got names and pictures of all those convicted?How long did they all get and what exactly were they charged with and found guilty of?

    Not very convincing sources.But hey if it was on the news.............and somebody tweeted about it, it must be true
    RTE.
    Sunday Times.
    Irish Times.
    Independent.ie

    What more do YOU want? Top secret documents couriered to your door!
    Go take your uninformed, uneducated, lazy no researching, trolling crap elsewhere.


  • #46
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Biggins wrote: »
    I'm saying little, I'm buggered and followed enough as it is!

    FYP. :D


  • #47
    Misanthrope
    Closed Accounts Posts: 613 ✭✭✭Misanthrope


    Biggins wrote: »
    RTE.
    Sunday Times.
    Irish Times.
    Independent.ie

    What more do YOU want? Top secret documents couriered to your door!
    Go take your uninformed, uneducated, lazy no researching, trolling crap elsewhere.

    I won't be taking anything anywhere for you.But aren't you getting angry and abusive.

    I'll bet every one of those rags you just listed, spewed out the Gulf of Tonkin garbage in '64.Whether or not they did,they certainly never called BS

    Here's the real story straight from the horses mouth
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AaGVAipGp0


  • #48
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    starbelgrade wrote: »
    FYP. :D
    Thanks. I forgot about the old school boys days! :o


  • #49
    King Felix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭King Felix


    Misanthrope wrote: »
    I won't be taking anything anywhere for you.But aren't you getting angry and abusive.

    I'll bet every one of those rags you just listed, spewed out the Gulf of Tonkin garbage in '64.Whether or not they did,they certainly never called BS

    Here's the real story straight from the horses mouth
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AaGVAipGp0

    That was the Irish Secret Service?

    The bastards.


  • #50
    Tucking Fypo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭Tucking Fypo


    LOL. This thread has me in stitches. You're all wrong. :D

    Each year on the 2nd of February, the Taoiseach picks random secret service recruits all over Ireland. They never know they are chosen, this remains a secret. The Taoiseach puts the budget for them in a small account offshore.

    You never know, it could be you! ...


  • #51
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Misanthrope wrote: »
    I won't be taking anything anywhere for you.But aren't you getting angry and abusive.

    I'll bet every one of those rags you just listed, spewed out the Gulf of Tonkin garbage in '64.Whether or not they did,they certainly never called BS

    Here's the real story straight from the horses mouth
    *** YOUTUBE CLIP ***

    So every paper you don't like (or disagrees with you I suspect) is a rag?

    Please provide ANY evidence that the Irish Secret Service is EVEN POSSIBLY working for the USA!

    We will await your substantiated post.

    I suspect what we will get instead will be no indicators, no proof, more ranting, a modicum of trying to change the topic and more items that bear no relevance to the current base topic of the OP's thread.

    ...And yes, I DO take it personal for private reasons when idiotic unproved conspiracy crap is spouted about people that are working for the safety and betterment of our state.

    Instead of carrying on with the usual rubbish, please with your next post, return with ANYTHING that shows the Irish secret service is working for the American government.
    ...Otherwise head over to the Conspiracy forum, there's loads more random, unproven stuff over there.

    You post something in here - back it up or ship out for you will be called on it!

    We await your next post!


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  • #52
    Misanthrope
    Closed Accounts Posts: 613 ✭✭✭Misanthrope


    Biggins wrote: »
    So every paper you don't like (or disagrees with you I suspect) is a rag?

    Please provide ANY evidence that the Irish Secret Service is EVEN POSSIBLY working for the USA!

    We will await your substantiated post.

    I suspect what we will get instead will be no indicators, no proof, more ranting, a modicum of trying to change the topic and more items that bear no relevance to the current base topic of the OP's thread.

    ...And yes, I DO take it personal for private reasons when idiotic unproved conspiracy crap is spouted about people that are working for the safety and betterment of our state.

    Instead of carrying on with the usual rubbish, please with your next post, return with ANYTHING that shows the Irish secret service is working for the American government.
    ...Otherwise head over to the Conspiracy forum, there's loads more random, unproven stuff over there.

    You post something in here - back it up or ship out for you will be called on it!

    We await your next post!
    I think it is you who is ranting.Look at the oversize text you use.

    Now if you look back you'll see that I said probably not definitely.It's a suspicion I have but one I cannot prove,hence probably.

    You,on the other hand stated as fact that there are 6 Islamic terror cells in Ireland.......... remember?

    "There are at least 6 known Islamic terrorist cells operating out of Ireland."

    Then you gave me unreliable sources on 3 of said cells from 2 years ago.

    But if you want to believe everything you read in the papers go right ahead.

    You jumped down my throat first remember?And now you are fuming.I'm not that bothered at all.

    I'll leave it there.If you want me out, show this thread to a Mod and ask them to expel me.I will respect their demands but not your seething orders.


  • #53
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Misanthrope wrote: »
    I think it is you who is ranting.Look at the oversize text you use.

    Now if you look back you'll see that I said probably not definitely.It's a suspicion I have but one I cannot prove,hence probably.

    You,on the other hand stated as fact that there are 6 Islamic terror cells in Ireland.......... remember?

    "There are at least 6 known Islamic terrorist cells operating out of Ireland."

    Then you gave me unreliable sources on 3 of said cells from 2 years ago.

    But if you want to believe everything you read in the papers go right ahead.

    You jumped down my throat first remember?And now you are fuming.I'm not that bothered at all.

    I'll leave it there.If you want me out, show this thread to a Mod and ask them to expel me.I will respect their demands but not your seething orders.

    Thank you - you haven't even tried bothered to back up your rubbish.
    As for me - here is a link to Europols "EU Terrorism Situation and Trend Report TE-SAT 2008"
    Stuff it - here is the 2010 version!: http://www.consilium.europa.eu/uedocs/cmsUpload/TE-SAT%202010.pdf

    Go read it and read the figures on separatists living in Ireland.
    Or maybe Interpol or Europol is working for the USA too ...EH???

    As I've said - random unproved conspiracy crap -> Conspiracy forum!


  • #54
    Misanthrope
    Closed Accounts Posts: 613 ✭✭✭Misanthrope


    Biggins wrote: »
    Or maybe Interpol is working for the USA too ...EH???

    Not beyond the realm of possibility.But those are your words not mine.


  • #55
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Misanthrope wrote: »
    Not beyond the realm of possibility.But those are your words not mine.
    Sarcasm and wordplay - great evidence so far to your ramblings. Carry on...


  • #56
    phill106
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,838 ✭✭✭phill106


    *grabs a seat and munches popcorn*
    Continue....


  • #57
    King Felix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭King Felix


    Here is some stuff from Cryptome on our Secret Service...

    http://www.trust-us.ch/cryptome/01-Cryptome-061213/ie-spies.htm

    There used to be one on there about the Islamist cells in Ireland but I can't find it on google.


  • #58
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    There are many aspects to the quiet agency that operates within our borders.
    Besides the external/internal factors that bring about terrorism, there is also the possible areas that are being affected such as industrial technology stealing, monetary counterfeiting, fake passports creation internally (we have NO chance of spying on MOSSAD!), observance of any viable threats to our political heads to name a few.

    The finance figures that the OP originally mentioned I feel are very light - heck, its just a years spending in expenses alone for one TD, never mind 150+


  • #59
    King Felix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭King Felix


    A bit more light reading...

    http://oireland.tripod.com/oireland2.pdf


  • #60
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    If anyone feels they are bugged, maybe they should head here: http://www.spyireland.ie/index.php

    I suspect a few heads from a conspiracy section might be tempted to part with a few bob! :pac:
    Word to the wise though: Bug detection devices like they sell on that site, might not find everything.
    If your bugged by anything that operates above 6.5khz frequency, a device for subsequent checking, is not necessarily available to the general public. And if it still operates below 6.5, it can be hidden by auditory/signal masking - so your screwed!
    Don't say you weren't warned! LOL


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  • #61
    mfceiling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,250 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    starbelgrade wrote: »
    €1 million of taxpayers money has been put aside this year to fund the Irish Secret Service, yet no-one seems to really know what they do or who they are.

    A search on Google turns up more questions than it does answers, except that it's budget is administered by the Department of Finance and that in various years has not always been fully spent.

    So why the big mystery... everyone knows who runs the CIA & MI5 - both of these even have websites where you can find out more information, even information on their careers application process, but there is zilch on the web about the ISS (Irish Secret Service).

    So what are they up to? Is there an "M" type figure developing hurley sticks that fire lazer beams? Do we have an Irish James Bond, a Jimmy O'Bond, perhaps? Or is it just an elaborate way to claim unvouched expenses, set up by Ivor Calley?

    The plot thickens...

    Ehhhhh.......


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