Big Jim Mansfield and the receiver

Tin_Cup · 26-08-2010 10:24AM

Par 4 9th lengthened by about 60 yards, pond put in place along right hand side up to green.

Would love to see how they found 60yds on the 9th Hole.

blackwaterfish · 26-08-2010 11:28AM

Tin_Cup wrote: »

Par 4 9th lengthened by about 60 yards, pond put in place along right hand side up to green.

Would love to see how they found 60yds on the 9th Hole.

They appear to have had plenty of room just to literally pull the teebox back 60 yards. this and the 7th tee will be in a new configuration. 9 is a pretty tight drive now with pond on right.

blackwaterfish · 26-08-2010 12:44PM

Approximated Changes to holes:

( left out changes to 3rd hole as i didnt notice any when putting together a tidy triple bogey )

HOLE 2

HOLES 7 & 9

conno16 · 26-08-2010 12:50PM

looks like a joke to me
i certainly wont be wasting my time down there

blackwaterfish · 26-08-2010 01:04PM

conno16 wrote: »

looks like a joke to me
i certainly wont be wasting my time down there

... ha ha ha hilarious!.... well thats ruined my day!

conno16 · 26-08-2010 01:05PM

what sort of course has esb pylons in the middle of it
sure big jim would build a flyover thru it and stick a luas line on it if he thought he'd get a few euros

blackwaterfish · 26-08-2010 02:09PM

Id be happy to meet you out there some evening as my guest and play a round and see what you genuinely think afterwards. i find it a pleasant track to play... atmosphere there is very relaxed and while not a world beater certainly it isnt worthy of the contempt held for it by some.

you might enjoy it conno. plus it wont cost you a penny. whataya reck?

conno16 · 26-08-2010 02:19PM

should i bring a hard hat and high visibility jacket?

blackwaterfish · 26-08-2010 02:47PM

fair enough conno. the offer stands fella.

while we're on the subject, when was the last time you were out there?

conno16 · 26-08-2010 03:14PM

bout a year ago
booked a teetime for around 10:30 on a sunday morning
big fook up on the bookings situation
think i finally got out around 12:30 when the backlog had cleared
one of the worst run clubs i have ever had the misfortune to come across

blackwaterfish · 26-08-2010 03:31PM

so you hung around for 2 hours!?

conno16 · 26-08-2010 03:45PM

damn right i did
big jim already had my cash and i'd organised my day around 18 holes
no way was i leaving without tearing up some of big jims field

jimjo · 26-08-2010 03:55PM

Conno, you appear extremely criteria of courses in the greater Dublin area…

Tell me, have you found any good, well run clubs around that are to your liking?? You must have some favourite courses around Dublin, apart from elm green of course.

If so can you inform us? Would offer a good insight to any foreign tourist knowing little about Dublin golf…

Maybe compiling this information into a book could prove profitable… Conno’s Dublin Golf adventures or Conno’s RAM wedge to the soul could be catchy titles…. However I’m sure you could think of much much better.

conno16 · 26-08-2010 04:04PM

couple of decent courses around the GDA but i have not played enough of them to compare and contrast
running a golf course is not rocket science
maintaining a golf course is not rocket science
designing a golf course is not rocket science
there is no reason why people should have to endure the citywest experience
and it amazes me that people frequent such courses
i for one take great satisfaction from seeing sorry excuses close now that the celtic tiger years are well and truly a period of the past

blackwaterfish · 26-08-2010 04:08PM

conno16 wrote: »

damn right i did
big jim already had my cash and i'd organised my day around 18 holes
no way was i leaving without tearing up some of big jims field

Cool bananas. Thats absolutely returded man, sticking around for that long... but okie dokie, if you say so it musta happened.

cripes!

conno16 · 26-08-2010 04:36PM

i wouldn't have brought it up unless i had some problem with big jim's golf course
its not the only time this has happened either according to reports
badly run = outa business from here onwards thankfully

The_Architect · 26-08-2010 04:52PM

OK,

It's possibly unfair to be critical with only vague memories of the course and those overheads to go on...

...But if those are the changes, then a hatchet job it is...

Firstly, they are moving a pylon on 2 just to put in a new tee?... Big, big bucks for one new tee... And now the pylon is directly within sight from the tee.

As for the new tees on 7 & 9, they've used new land to create tees that now provide a safety problem by creating crossing holes... With the inclusion of the lake and the extra yards on 9, they've also removed the temptation to go for the green from the tee..

In other words, they are spending money to make the course worse, regardless of length...

EDIT - One advantage of the new back tee on 7 is to change the driving line for those who tried to cut the corner. That was a huge safety problem with the second hotel if I remember rightly... So they've improved one safety issue on the hole and created another.

snowy666 · 27-08-2010 01:05AM

Firstly, they are moving a pylon on 2 just to put in a new tee?... Big, big bucks for one new tee... And now the pylon is directly within sight from the tee.

Agree. Tee shot is now going to be somewhat stupid.

With the inclusion of the lake and the extra yards on 9, they've also removed the temptation to go for the green from the tee..

Agree, when the tees are back. When they're up it's still risk/reward, just more risk.

One advantage of the new back tee on 7 is to change the driving line for those who tried to cut the corner. That was a huge safety problem with the second hotel if I remember rightly... So they've improved one safety issue on the hole and created another.

There won't be a crossover issue - one tee will be back as the other is up and vice versa, but the cutting corner problem does remain.

Like I said before, it's a nice enough track - and I've played plenty whilst living here to know - the real issues are off-course.

conno16 · 27-08-2010 08:52AM

is there any truth in the rumour (for those of ye who are more familiar with the course, surroundings etc) that jim went for the ryder cup the same year as the k-club?

jimjo · 27-08-2010 08:54AM

So will membership prices stay the same there?? From what I've read and heard these changes will make the course better in the long road...

Davidth88 · 27-08-2010 08:57AM

conno16 wrote: »

is there any truth in the rumour (for those of ye who are more familiar with the course, surroundings etc) that jim went for the ryder cup the same year as the k-club?

What I do know is that he did use a lot of his facilities for the Ryder Cup

For example the two park and ride sites were Weston Aerodrome and what was the PGA ( now Palmerstown Hse )

So he did contribute ( now doubt he was rewarded for this ).

conno16 · 27-08-2010 09:02AM

i heard he went head-to-head with smurfit to host the event but quickly discovered he was out of depth
would love to have seen tiger bend some tee shots round the pylon.

blackwaterfish · 27-08-2010 12:29PM

@ jimjo

membership prices prior to course amendments

7 day membership to play both courses : €1600

7 day membership to play Lakes courses only €1100

5 day membership : €795

Easy pay option - Choose any of the above, pay €500 and pay rest over six months via direct debit

Memberships options now..

7 day membership : €1100

5 day membership : €795

Easy pay option - Choose any of the above, pay €500 and pay rest over six months via direct debit

jimjo · 27-08-2010 12:39PM

blackwaterfish wrote: »

@ jimjo

membership prices prior to course amendments

Memberships options now..

7 day membership : €1100

5 day membership : €795

Easy pay option - Choose any of the above, pay €500 and pay rest over six months via direct debit

Cheers for that.

Think you posted a link for last years membership but didn't come up with me. However €1,100 is good value yearly membership.

At that price their pitching themselves against Hollystown, Turvey and the likes... but I take it its a lot better a course then those two.

If you live close to the course its good value as Dublin membership prices go...

blackwaterfish · 27-08-2010 02:23PM

couldnt agree with you more there Jimjo. Exactly the reasons im a member there... 20mins drive from house.... and for that money the other options, as you listed, are mostly inferior courses imo.

Dont enjoy hollystown... wouldnt call it a hatchet job, a lazily OTT phrase anyway, but its akin to a swamp in the winter months. saying that tho... theyre still finessing the course but its so rough around the edges at the mo. im sure in 3 years or so theyll have a handle on it. turvey, with respect, just does not do it for me. Elm green bores the tits off me. corballis is amazing in places but not close enough to me for quick evening nine holes. hence citywest with its faults... ( the actual course though, which is very well maintained ) is the obvious choice.

Saying that, as soon as i have the funds available i'll be knocking on castleknock g.c.'s door.

Tom Fiat · 27-08-2010 02:32PM

How much is Castleknock membership?

blackwaterfish · 27-08-2010 02:44PM

Tom Fiat wrote: »

How much is Castleknock membership?

€2,750

Tom Fiat · 27-08-2010 02:46PM

I have played there and I'm not so sure it's worth that in todays environment. Good course though and close to downtown.

decdoherty · 28-08-2010 11:45AM

hi blackwaterfish,

I'm currently looking to join somewhere in south west Dublin and with those new membership fees it looking very reasonable price / course quality wise, as at the moment I can't really justify paying up to 2k pa, when I'm only getting back into golfing, haven't played regularly since I started college about 10 years ago. Whats the story with members competitions etc, are there any regular competitions for members and are there any inter-club teams playing out of Citywest. There doesn't seem to be any mention of any club committee etc at all?

bridestream · 28-08-2010 12:18PM

Has anyone mentioned the fact City West is a very noisy course due to the Naas Road and Baldonnel Military Airport nearby?

Newlands is another noisy course due to the closeness of the
Belgard and Naas Road(s).

Big Jim Mansfield and the receiver

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