How many of you actually believe the Moon Landing was fake?

uprising2 · 23-08-2010 02:24AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA0D6vZuQ6Y

meglome · 23-08-2010 03:11AM

uprising2 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23BIb_PMJ4M

Well i was asking for some experiments but anyhow. Sorry to be a poo pooer but it seems quite obvious to me that in the Mythbusters shots he's hitting the ground harder, his arms and the helmet jerk down as you would expect in gravity.

Look maybe you can tell me why the dust falls straight back to the ground in the nasa footage?

And on your other video Van Allen himself had no problem believing that the radiation belt could be crossed. I have a feeling he might know something about these things.

uprising2 · 23-08-2010 03:56AM

meglome wrote: »

Well i was asking for some experiments but anyhow. Sorry to be a poo pooer but it seems quite obvious to me that in the Mythbusters shots he's hitting the ground harder, his arms and the helmet jerk down as you would expect in gravity.

Look maybe you can tell me why the dust falls straight back to the ground in the nasa footage?

And on your other video Van Allen himself had no problem believing that the radiation belt could be crossed. I have a feeling he might know something about these things.

Maybe mythbusters guy is just a sloppy awkward moving person, I can jump off 10ft and land fairly smoothly on my feet, while others look like a bag of spuds falling off a 3ft wall, it's all about agility.

Van Allen was employed by the US Govt, hardly going to mess up his career now is he?

23-08-2010 05:02AM

uprising2 wrote: »

Van Allen was employed by the US Govt, hardly going to mess up his career now is he?

So then why did he reveal that the van allen belts existed at all?
Wouldn't the government have said to him that they where planning on faking moon landings and they didn't want the public thinking it was impossible to do for real?

How come no other scientist has ever shown that it would be impossible?

And since you are so sure that this is why going to the moon is impossible, you can no doubt tell us exactly how much radiation you get going through the belts and exactly how much is a lethal dose.
I mean you wouldn't think it's impossible just because you where told so by a guy on the internet.... would you?

meglome · 23-08-2010 06:02AM

uprising2 wrote: »

Maybe mythbusters guy is just a sloppy awkward moving person, I can jump off 10ft and land fairly smoothly on my feet, while others look like a bag of spuds falling off a 3ft wall, it's all about agility.

Agility right... so if you put a big space suit on you you'll be floating off the nearest table like a butterfly, right?

uprising2 wrote: »

Van Allen was employed by the US Govt, hardly going to mess up his career now is he?

So you're happy to accept his discovery of this radiation belt but he must be lying to say it can be crossed? You know I'd hate to think of the colossal number of people that would have to in on all these conspiracy's. So many, I dunno, it seems like it would be impossible to cover them up.

Oh and maybe this time you can tell me why the dust falls straight back to the ground in the nasa footage?

squod · 23-08-2010 02:29PM

meglome wrote: »

Oh and maybe this time you can tell me why the dust falls straight back to the ground in the nasa footage?

Are you suggesting that ojects of different weight fall to the moons surface at different speeds?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE81zGhnb0w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE81zGhnb0w

meglome · 23-08-2010 02:37PM

squod wrote: »

Are you suggesting that ojects of different weight fall to the moons surface at different speeds?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE81zGhnb0w

Not at all, I'm saying the opposite. The dust falls immediately to the ground in the NASA footage because there is no air friction. The same reason the hammer and feather fall at the same rate. This can not happen on earth outside of a vacuum. And given the whole thing, if faked, would have to be done on something the size of a sound-stage that would make it basically impossible to have been done on earth.

Mahatma coat · 23-08-2010 02:48PM

meglome wrote: »

Not at all, I'm saying the opposite. The dust falls immediately to the ground in the NASA footage because there is no air friction. The same reason the hammer and feather fall at the same rate. This can not happen on earth outside of a vacuum. And given the whole thing, if faked, would have to be done on something the size of a sound-stage that would make it basically impossible to have been done on earth.

Really, unfakeable eh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtvESpQipcw

:P

squod · 23-08-2010 02:51PM

meglome wrote: »

Not at all, I'm saying the opposite. The dust falls immediately to the ground in the NASA footage because there is no air friction.

There it is then. Fair play Meglome. Two objects falling to the surface of the moon at different speeds.

squod · 23-08-2010 02:52PM

Was it a counter weight or what then they used for the aastronaughts?

tallus · 23-08-2010 06:58PM

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Really, unfakeable eh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtvESpQipcw

:P

That video doesn't show both objects falling in one shot, unlike the NASA footage, it shows the astronaut dropping both objects, then the shot changes to both objects falling to the surface, also it appears they have used some of the original footage in that video too.
It didn't look convincing enough to me.

FREETV · 23-08-2010 09:13PM

What I heard was that they did indeed land on the moon but haven't been back since as there was somebody supposedly there and they were run off the moon and haven't returned since and never will either. Hence the Nasa pictures of the back side of the moon being airbrushed before being sold to the general public?

Jeboa Safari · 23-08-2010 09:20PM

FREETV wrote: »

What I heard was that they did indeed land on the moon but haven't been back since as there was somebody supposedly there and they were run off the moon and haven't returned since and never will either. Hence the Nasa pictures of the back side of the moon being airbrushed before being sold to the general public?

There are several space agencies planning to return to the moon, including the European Space Agency

FREETV · 23-08-2010 09:24PM

Jeboa Safari wrote: »

There are several space agencies planning to return to the moon, including the European Space Agency

Well then either UFO investigators are telling fibs or the other side is?

Yitzhak Rabin · 23-08-2010 09:37PM

FREETV wrote: »

Well then either UFO investigators are telling fibs or the other side is?

Well I know which side has a better track record.

thecommander · 23-08-2010 11:12PM

tallus wrote: »

That video doesn't show both objects falling in one shot, unlike the NASA footage, it shows the astronaut dropping both objects, then the shot changes to both objects falling to the surface, also it appears they have used some of the original footage in that video too.
It didn't look convincing enough to me.

That footage is from an IMAX film that NASA made for use in the cinema in Kennedy Space Centre and museums around the world. Its not real footage, you know that?

tallus · 24-08-2010 08:12AM

thecommander wrote: »

That footage is from an IMAX film that NASA made for use in the cinema in Kennedy Space Centre and museums around the world. Its not real footage, you know that?

Which footage are you talking about ?-

Obviously I was alluding to the second link posted by mahatma coat in my comments.

You did know that ?

Black Swan · 24-08-2010 08:19AM

The Moon landing was very real. I've a cousin that has worked years for JPL of Cal Tech in Pasadena on a NASA contract, and he laughs whenever a CT comes his way claiming that the landing was a fake. I've toured the labs and seen tons of photos taken from the landing and other space flights. Not only was it technologically possible and well funded at the time, but it actually happened, so enjoy your CT fun. It beats watching the boring soaps or Star Trek reruns.

Di0genes · 24-08-2010 10:09AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6MOnehCOUw

nullzero · 24-08-2010 06:11PM

Di0genes wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6MOnehCOUw

Conclusive.
End thread/

Mahatma coat · 25-08-2010 01:04AM

thecommander wrote: »

That footage is from an IMAX film that NASA made for use in the cinema in Kennedy Space Centre and museums around the world. Its not real footage, you know that?

If, as I suspect, you are referring to the footage that I posted they you are WRONG, nothing to do with NASA or IMAX, it was HBO and the TV series 'From the Earth to The Moon'

thecommander · 25-08-2010 09:38AM

Mahatma coat wrote: »

If, as I suspect, you are referring to the footage that I posted they you are WRONG, nothing to do with NASA or IMAX, it was HBO and the TV series 'From the Earth to The Moon'

Funny, I watched it in an IMAX theatre in Kennedy Space Centre in Florida, run by NASA. Must have been my imagination.

eastinflatable · 25-08-2010 09:43AM

Well I know which side has a better track record.

nullzero · 25-08-2010 01:21PM

nullzero wrote: »

Conclusive.
End thread/

Diogenes, I was being sarcastic.

RGDATA! · 25-08-2010 01:42PM

nullzero wrote: »

Diogenes, I was being sarcastic.

i'm assuming he and everybody else is aware of this

TalkieWalkie · 25-08-2010 02:20PM

Blue_Lagoon wrote: »

The Moon landing was very real.

Wrong thread.

This thread is.... " How many of you actually believe the Moon Landing was fake?"

Not " How many of you actually believe the Moon Landing was real?"

bytey · 25-08-2010 03:49PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

No he just makes stuff up and jumps to conclusions (conclusions that are in line with his own agenda). Watched his videos and he just rehashes the same old rubbish that has been debunked many many times over.

wrong again, and i doubt you have watched his videos .
at least - watched them with any level of understanding .

bytey · 25-08-2010 03:53PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Based on the massive body of evidence man did land on the moon. I look at the evidence and the so called 'evidence' that is was fake does not stand up to any reasonable unbiased assessment. The important word being unbiased

although I believe some missions may have landed

there is NO evidence - outside of what nasa tells you - that man landed on the moon

NONE

the record is faked , whether they landed or not
its still all faked / manipulated

the question we should be asking , and i say this every time another pointless 'did we land on the moon " thread starts ( which is getting OLD at this stage )

is whatever occured on the moon - why are the records faked ?

Ping Chow Chi · 25-08-2010 03:57PM

To be fair I have not seen one but of evidence that has proven to be faked, could you please show me one cast-iron piece or evidence that you can prove is a fake.

Just one though please, I do not have a huge amount of time to investigate stuff at the moment

(PS this isnt a wind up - I honestly would like to see some evidence that it was faked)

25-08-2010 04:05PM

bytey wrote: »

although I believe some missions may have landed

there is NO evidence - outside of what nasa tells you - that man landed on the moon

NONE

Except for all the tracking of the Apollo capsules done by other agencies including the Russians as well as a few talented amatuers. And the huge amount of Lunar samples brought back and analysed by hundreds of scientists in dozens of labs including many in Russia. And the laser refractor experiments carried out by dozens of observatories all over the world and very regularly.

But I guess all those must be bought off as well :rolleyes:

bytey wrote: »

the record is faked , whether they landed or not
its still all faked / manipulated

the question we should be asking , and i say this every time another pointless 'did we land on the moon " thread starts ( which is getting OLD at this stage )

is whatever occured on the moon - why are the records faked ?

Simple: the records aren't fake.

How many of you actually believe the Moon Landing was fake?

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