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We Might NEVER Know If Heaven Exists...

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  • #32
    icywind1980
    Closed Accounts Posts: 175 ✭✭icywind1980


    F1ngers wrote: »
    Personally, I was thinking here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=576

    I concur :cool:


  • #33
    scientific1982
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,562 ✭✭✭scientific1982


    Eternity worshipping some tyrannical space god. Sounds like hell to me.


  • #34
    take everything
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,995 ✭✭✭take everything


    Adequate wrote: »
    Do you know what the sad realisation is? The fact that there is a very real chance that we will NEVER know whether heaven exists or not. There are millions upon millions of people who are clinging onto the hope of an afterlife once we pass away. Also, we would just like to know one way or another whether heaven exists.

    However, there is a very real chance that we will simply never know. Of course if heaven exists, one would hope that we would be aware, and I'm sure that it would be an incredible experience. HOWEVER, if heaven doesn't exist, and once our heart stops beating and we inhale our last breath, then we just go blank...we will never know! When you close your eyes for the last time, all consciousness will be lost and we will never know about it.

    Of course, I have no idea and hope that we will know if heaven exists or not, but there is a real chance that we will simply never know.

    God only knows tbh.


  • #35
    Jesus Wept
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    scudzilla wrote: »
    Fcuk me, there's posters on here with over 5,000 posts who have never started a thread this deep, you've done it after 12 posts, can't wait to see the next thread ya start

    I hope you are taking the piss.


  • #36
    Adequate
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14 ✭Adequate


    The-Rigger wrote: »
    I hope you are taking the piss.

    Dude can I ask you why? Do you find my posts boring or do you just refuse to contemplate complex subjects?


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  • #37
    storm2811
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,183 ✭✭✭storm2811


    Adequate wrote: »
    Dude can I ask you why? Do you find my posts boring or do you just refuse to contemplate complex subjects?

    Mod:Sunshine,Lollypops and Rainbows.
    He has no time for subjects like this.:pac:


  • #38
    the_syco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,310 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    When you die, one of three things will happen:

    You'll die, and nothing happens afterwards.

    You'll reincarnate as an animal.

    You'll be either the person in heaven weaving the sword, or the person in hell dying by the sword. It shall be one place, but how eternity allows you to live will depend how much honour you died with, and if you'll the hunted, or the hunter... :pac:


  • #39
    fonecrusher1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,985 ✭✭✭fonecrusher1


    I wish i could believe in the whole idea of drifting off to heaven when we die but i just can't. Its for want of a better word....silly.

    Im very much a logically minded sort of person who would say thank science instead of thank god. ie; i would occasionally have a very bad asthma attack which happens very quickly.
    Luckly i have an inhaler to prevent me from basically choking to death. Thank god? Nah, thank science.


  • #40
    Jesus Wept
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Adequate wrote: »
    Dude can I ask you why? Do you find my posts boring or do you just refuse to contemplate complex subjects?

    I haven't made any comment on your posts.
    Adequate wrote: »
    or do you just refuse to contemplate complex subjects?

    I don't consider it a complex subject.
    It is the type of thought I would expect from a child.


  • #41
    Plebs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭Plebs


    You have to repent to get into heaven.

    Final impenitence is a one-way ticket to eternal inferno.

    A good percentage of us will be spending a very long time in purgatory to atone for our decadent lifestyles.


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  • #42
    icywind1980
    Closed Accounts Posts: 175 ✭✭icywind1980


    Plebs wrote: »
    You have to repent to get into heaven.

    Final impenitence is a one-way ticket to eternal inferno.

    A good percentage of us will be spending a very long time in purgatory to atone for our decadent lifestyles.
    Is there ice cream in purgatory?


  • #43
    KevinVonSpiel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 522 ✭✭✭KevinVonSpiel


    I'm not even sure I'm going to die... I might just be surrounded by really weak people who flag way too easily.


  • #44
    FearDark
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭FearDark


    Redlion wrote: »
    What a stupid thing to say, there's nothing wrong with someone who believes in the Christian faith. Show some respect for those that do.

    Well you have something wrong with your brain so.


  • #45
    KevinVonSpiel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 522 ✭✭✭KevinVonSpiel


    icywind1980 wrote: »
    Is there ice cream in purgatory?

    I was told that there's butter in Limbo.


  • #46
    Plebs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭Plebs


    KevinVonSpiel wrote: »
    I was told that there's butter in Limbo.

    Bread, butter and water in-between 4 hour shifts of stone-breaking. 6 hours sleep. No holidays. No days off. ~1,000 years, depending on how naughty you've been.


  • #47
    icywind1980
    Closed Accounts Posts: 175 ✭✭icywind1980


    KevinVonSpiel wrote: »
    I was told that there's butter in Limbo.
    Homer: Mmmmm butter..


  • #48
    johnn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭johnn


    Did none of ya's see the Lost finale or wha?


  • #49
    NoHornJan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭NoHornJan


    Heaven, Nirvana, No more tomorrow, 69 Virgins, Less of today, Hell, Purgatory, Reincarnation, Who's right and who thinks they're wright?


  • #50
    KyussBishop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭KyussBishop


    We'll find out when we die (or not, but then it won't matter anyway), and in the time between now and then it's more important to be proccupied with your current life, instead of worrying about a place that might not even exist.


  • #51
    Sticky_Fingers
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,379 ✭✭✭Sticky_Fingers


    Superbus wrote: »
    It may well be a narcissistic relic from an outdated Christian mindset, but the idea of heaven is so comforting after a bereavement, at least in my experiences. The thought that they're just gone, as if they'd never been around, is a deeply depressing one, in my opinion.

    Personally I can't think of anything more hellish than eternal life after death, it will get boring very quickly. Sure it might be nice to see friends and family for a short while but after a few centuries you will be sick of the sight of them.

    Lets say for arguments sake that the population of heaven is 100 billion.
    Now lets say that you can spend as much time with anyone as you like, and it averages out to be 10 years of constant companionship with each and every one of those people before you get restless with them. Thats 1 Trillion years of time gone, not bad going until you consider that this is but a tiny fraction of the life span of the universe (by current cosmological models).

    Over time the heavens will dim as stars reach the end of their lives and are not replaced. After about 100 TRILLION years the last star will have winked out and there is no more light or heat. That however it only a tiny fraction of the life span of the universe where it enters the degenerate era and things get a little dull,all thats left are white dwarfs, black holes, 100 billion bored souls and God. Thanks but no thanks, I'll take oblivion over that any day.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5_zKpKLe8I


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  • #52
    Brendog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,976 ✭✭✭Brendog


    Heres the Truth....


    If Heaven did exist and really was how its portrayed, as a majestic city in the sky, the temprature would be -30C.



    I don't know about you...
    But When I die, I don't want to spend eternity in Siberia...


  • #53
    bonerm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭bonerm


    Adequate wrote: »
    Do you know what the sad realisation is? The fact that there is a very real chance that we will NEVER know whether heaven exists or not. There are millions upon millions of people who are clinging onto the hope of an afterlife once we pass away. Also, we would just like to know one way or another whether heaven exists.

    However, there is a very real chance that we will simply never know. Of course if heaven exists, one would hope that we would be aware, and I'm sure that it would be an incredible experience. HOWEVER, if heaven doesn't exist, and once our heart stops beating and we inhale our last breath, then we just go blank...we will never know! When you close your eyes for the last time, all consciousness will be lost and we will never know about it.

    Of course, I have no idea and hope that we will know if heaven exists or not, but there is a real chance that we will simply never know.

    So what are you trying to say? :confused:


  • #54
    bonerm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭bonerm


    johnn wrote: »
    Did none of ya's see the Lost finale or wha?

    Spoilers!
    Actually I've never seen the show but I know there was a plane crash and they were stuck on an island. Now I'm guessing the "island" is heaven and they all actually died in the crash" :( Crosses Lost off "list of shows to watch.


  • #55
    Horse_box
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 357 ✭✭Horse_box


    I belive all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration – that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves

    Heres tom with the weather!


  • #56
    Blazer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,540 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    Adequate wrote: »
    Do you know what the sad realisation is? The fact that there is a very real chance that we will NEVER know whether heaven exists or not. There are millions upon millions of people who are clinging onto the hope of an afterlife once we pass away. Also, we would just like to know one way or another whether heaven exists.

    However, there is a very real chance that we will simply never know. Of course if heaven exists, one would hope that we would be aware, and I'm sure that it would be an incredible experience. HOWEVER, if heaven doesn't exist, and once our heart stops beating and we inhale our last breath, then we just go blank...we will never know! When you close your eyes for the last time, all consciousness will be lost and we will never know about it.

    Of course, I have no idea and hope that we will know if heaven exists or not, but there is a real chance that we will simply never know.

    it pisses me off bigtime too...I won't be able to laugh at all those religious nuts and say "I bloody told you it was all a pile of junk" :(


  • #57
    ClutchIt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 709 ✭✭✭ClutchIt


    Brendog wrote: »
    Heres the Truth....


    If Heaven did exist and really was how its portrayed, as a majestic city in the sky, the temprature would be -30C.



    I don't know about you...
    But When I die, I don't want to spend eternity in Siberia...

    Heaven is something made up to sound brilliant. I don't think it would be -30 degrees C.


  • #58
    lamai
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭lamai


    Can you still get creme eggs at this time of year?


  • #59
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I think i'd be in shock for about a week if I made it to heaven.. First because it exists, second because they managed to convert my brain into pixie dust and third because of the complete disregard all of us had for the commandments.


  • #60
    Kailyn Warm Soul
    Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Kailyn Warm Soul


    gogo reincarnation

    oblivion sounds nicer though, more relaxing :p


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