Clampdown on trailer ads beside M6 motorway

veritable · 18-08-2010 10:35AM

R.O.R wrote: »

Try adding 4 stories on to the top of your house, and let us know how you get on without planning permission.

NI clamped down on this recently (remember seeing a news report) and it's been outlawed in the UK for a good while.

Advertising hoardings require planning permission and you aren't going to get that by the side of a motorway. This is people getting around that by exploiting a loophole which someone is now closing.

What you mean is that they are being banned because councils are in bed with outdoor advertising companies (JCDecaux in Dublin is one example) ? Conflict of interest?

Run_to_da_hills · 18-08-2010 10:50AM

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

why has this threat only appeared in the country in the last year then and not the preceding 100? ****ing PCism - how can you fail to see a 3ft high sign. What about rubbish bins, present the same threat, are they being removed? :D:D

Because the compo culture is a relatively recent thing in this country and councils are strapped enough without having to deal with it.

It is a lot easier to trip over a fold up sandwich board than a council bin which is a fixed object that has remained in the same position for years which is also in line with the edge of the pavement and lamp posts etc.

I.S.T. · 18-08-2010 10:51AM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

"Galway County Council has announced a clampdown on unauthorised advertising structures that have been placed on private lands along the M6 Galway to Dublin motorway in the county".

I welcome this move and hope it becomes nationwide also I hope they also ban outreached teleporters on the roadside advertising property.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0817/advertising.html

Why should they be banned? You should be allowed to park a truck on your own private property. So what if it has an advertisment on the site of it. This is just the Government protecting their friends in the big advertising companies and screwing the ordinary man trying to make a few extra quid.

jock101 wrote: »

What like Road signs! If these Adverts distracted you, you should not be driving! This is just a money maker for all the Broke CoCo's!:rolleyes: What about Billboards? Should they be banned!

For once, I agree with you!

Run_to_da_hills · 18-08-2010 10:56AM

Jaysoose wrote: »

What about all the sheep and the cows in the fields alongside the motorway i find them terribly distracting and often find myself drifting off to the side of the road as a stare at them.

Absolute joke decision and some county councillors buddy who is in the advertising business has obviously thrown a wobbler..

Wont somebody think of the children.

If you are trying to count sheep while driving you shouldn't on the road in the first place.

Most people would pull in and take a nap. :rolleyes:

Saruman · 18-08-2010 10:59AM

To be honest I like roadside advertising. In fact I love driving in the US and if it is coming up to lunch or I want to stop for a break all I have to do is look up for a moment, see what the adverts are telling me is nearby including distance and exit number and I have a plan.

In Ireland if I even need to stop for fuel on a motorway I need to pick an exit and hope for the best. If I have never taken that exit before I can find myself in the arse of no where with not a town in sight.

If a sign distracts someone, that person should not be driving.

R.O.R · 18-08-2010 11:00AM

veritable wrote: »

What you mean is that they are being banned because councils are in bed with outdoor advertising companies (JCDecaux in Dublin is one example) ? Conflict of interest?

What I mean is that advertising hoardings are banned from the side of Motorways as it could be distracting to passing motorists - if they focus on the advert rather than the road ahead. No conflict of interest as the likes of JCD wouldn't get planning permission for a billboard at the side of the M50.

Ad's differ from sculptures in that there is stuff to read on adverts. They differ from roadsigns as there is just enough information on them to keep you informed (designed specifically so). Ad's differ from Sheep and Cows because you generally don't have writing on sheep or cows which you'll try and read.

Run_to_da_hills · 18-08-2010 11:09AM

IrishSpeedTraps wrote: »

Why should they be banned? You should be allowed to park a truck on your own private property. So what if it has an advertisement on the site of it. This is just the Government protecting their friends in the big advertising companies and screwing the ordinary man trying to make a few extra quid.

Not so, as I already mentioned no official advertisement company would be allowed erect any fixed billboard advertisement without having FPP whether it was off a motorway or not.

If this was not the case JC Decaux would have had billboards plastered in every street corner of Dublin city and would have stuck its two fingers up at the bicycle project.

wet-paint · 18-08-2010 11:09AM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

You must also remember that many of these same greedy farmers have already made a killing (at premium rate ) out of CPO's during the economoc boom for the land that was provided for these motorways in the first place.

Not to go off at a complete tangent, but most of the CPOs for the galway stretch of the M6 have only gone through in the last year or two, which wasn't really in the boom time for Ireland, and the very most any farmer will get, is market rate, and nothing more, certainly no compensation for having to sell their land. In a lot of cases they get less than the market rate for their land.[/quote]

Cookie_Monster · 18-08-2010 11:11AM

what about those toll booths, they are a big distraction to me driving on the motorway, so distracting I have to slow down and sometimes stop on a motorway just to look at them :eek::eek::eek:

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Not so, as I already mentioned no official advertisement company would be allowed erect any fixed billboard advertisement without having FPP whether it was off a motorway or not.

If this was not the case JC Decaux would have had billboards plastered in every street corner of Dublin city and would have stuck its two fingers up at the bicycle project.

what about those advertisements telling you you are on a PPP motorway? No relevance other than advertising the fact

Run_to_da_hills · 18-08-2010 11:20AM

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

What about those advertisements telling you you are on a PPP motorway? No relevance other than advertising the fact

At least you may have some remote chance in trying to sue the council if you run up the arse of another car while trying to read it.

shanemc1 · 18-08-2010 11:28AM

What about all the business's on the m50 and other's. Why dont they demolish all the business's there? It's a fact that theses are not distractions. If you get distracted by these your an idiot.

People should not be told what they park on there property. Is it not bad enough having it ruined split it half but then some smart arse council official then coming to say what you can and cant do with your remaining piece

******rant over**********

Cookie_Monster · 18-08-2010 11:30AM

I can see the advertisement on the side of the Ikea building from the M50, does this need to go too, now?

veritable · 18-08-2010 11:35AM

R.O.R wrote: »

What I mean is that advertising hoardings are banned from the side of Motorways as it could be distracting to passing motorists - if they focus on the advert rather than the road ahead. No conflict of interest as the likes of JCD wouldn't get planning permission for a billboard at the side of the M50.

Ad's differ from sculptures in that there is stuff to read on adverts. They differ from roadsigns as there is just enough information on them to keep you informed (designed specifically so). Ad's differ from Sheep and Cows because you generally don't have writing on sheep or cows which you'll try and read.

If you were being consistent you would advocate that all roadside advertising be banned, not just motorway, because it supposedly is too distracting.

Why not ban scenic views or animals in fields at the same time? Surely they are distracting to people. Why don't we just ban people like you! I can't stand how people like you think!

You also can't seriously be saying that roadside art is less distracting because it contains no words?

Run_to_da_hills · 18-08-2010 11:38AM

shanemc1 wrote: »

What about all the business's on the m50 and other's. Why dont they demolish all the business's there? It's a fact that theses are not distractions. If you get distracted by these your an idiot.

People should not be told what they park on there property. Is it not bad enough having it ruined split it half but then some smart arse council official then coming to say what you can and cant do with your remaining piece

******rant over**********

More than likely many of businesses were present before the M50 ever existed, and if they didn't they would be a registered businesses which already be paying a premium rate for the square footage on which they operate.

Unlike the farmer who already got colossal CPO compensation along with possibly every free hand out that the EU had offered to them over the last three decades.

cantdecide · 18-08-2010 11:38AM

I don't think road safety is a valid motivation to remove illegal signage.

I'm DELIGHTED that these muck savages are being prevented from profiting from bombarding me with gawdy advertising wherever I go.

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Seth Brundle · 18-08-2010 11:40AM

cantdecide banned for a week for advertising:D

R.O.R · 18-08-2010 12:00PM

veritable wrote: »

If you were being consistent you would advocate that all roadside advertising be banned, not just motorway, because it supposedly is too distracting.

Why not ban scenic views or animals in fields at the same time? Surely they are distracting to people. Why don't we just ban people like you! I can't stand how people like you think!

You also can't seriously be saying that roadside art is less distracting because it contains no words?

Well - I'm glad I offend you - you seem like the highly strung type who'd get wound up easy enough.

Reading and looking are different things. Reading at low speed and reading at high speed mean taking your eyes away from the road for a hugely different distance.

wet-paint · 18-08-2010 12:02PM

No they don't. Think about it. A sign only becomes legible at a certain distance, whatever speed you're doing. You just have less time to read it if you're going faster.

Jaysoose · 18-08-2010 12:02PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

If you are trying to count sheep while driving you shouldn't on the road in the first place.

Most people would pull in and take a nap. :rolleyes:

I cant help it they are distracting me, im going to ring the council and get sheep in fields banned.

veritable · 18-08-2010 12:03PM

R.O.R wrote: »

Well - I'm glad I offend you - you seem like the highly strung type who'd get wound up easy enough.

Reading and looking are different things. Reading at low speed and reading at high speed mean taking your eyes away from the road for a hugely different distance.

I'm definitely not offended by you! I just think the way you think is ridiculous!

Anan1 · 18-08-2010 12:14PM

veritable wrote: »

Why don't we just ban people like you! I can't stand how people like you think!

veritable wrote: »

I'm definitely not offended by you! I just think the way you think is ridiculous!

Please argue your case without resort to personal abuse.

Jaysoose · 18-08-2010 12:30PM

Is there any chance we can get clouds banned on the M1 i was looking at one that i could have swore was in the shape of a sheep.....damn sheep again.

Seth Brundle · 18-08-2010 12:34PM

Jaysoose wrote: »

Is there any chance we can get clouds banned on the M1 i was looking at one that i could have swore was in the shape of a sheep.....damn sheep again.

Having amorous thoughts whilst driving?

Cuddlesworth · 18-08-2010 12:44PM

Whatever they have said they are going to do, where is the legislation to back it up? The advertisements are not permanent structures so do not require planning permission. They are trailers and farm equipment on private land.

veritable · 18-08-2010 12:45PM

Anan1 wrote: »

Please argue your case without resort to personal abuse.

Noted

Turbulent Bill · 18-08-2010 12:51PM

R.O.R wrote: »

Ad's differ from sculptures in that there is stuff to read on adverts. They differ from roadsigns as there is just enough information on them to keep you informed (designed specifically so). Ad's differ from Sheep and Cows because you generally don't have writing on sheep or cows which you'll try and read.

I've no real issue with trailer ads on motorways - they're too different from road signs to be a distraction, and easy to filter out.

What I do have a problem with are small ads piggybacking on signage poles, and multi-function displays advertising businesses. Case in point is the N7 between Newlands Cross and the Red Cow. Might have been cleaned up a bit now, but the signage poles had a mixture of permanent signs, temporary roadworks signs and permanent (?) ads, all roughly of the same size and prominance. This makes it very difficult to get the information you actually need. You also expect multi-function displays to give important/urgent information, not the price of a hotel room.

Saruman · 18-08-2010 01:44PM

Why is advertising banned on the safest type of road there is, the motorway yet perfectly fine on all other roads down to city centres where you are far more likely to be in an accident and even knock down a pedestrian because you are reading the advertising?

I just don't get why motorways are singled out. Now perhaps not all advertising should be allowed but certainly local business and restaurants etc should be able to advertise along the motorway so people know they are there, especially informative ones.

Run_to_da_hills · 18-08-2010 02:33PM

Jaysoose wrote: »

Is there any chance we can get clouds banned on the M1 i was looking at one that i could have swore was in the shape of a sheep.....damn sheep again.

It is a serious offense to consume psychoactive substances while driving. :rolleyes:

shanel23 · 18-08-2010 02:42PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Why do the same muppets who are getting rid of the trailer ads pay small fortunes for artistic sculptures to be placed beside some of the new motorways, seems every bit as much if not more of a distraction to drivers.

I think the placing of these artistic sculptures comes from the fact that the funding for a lot if not all of theses roads comes from the EU and as part of the funding grant ( say 5% ) has to be spent on such a sculpture/piece of art . So the councils have no choice but to have them there .

As said earlier it would be much better time and energy spent by the RSA/councils improving the roads rather than worrying about businesses trying to advertise on private land - it's a welcome distraction to boring mway driving .

Jaysoose · 18-08-2010 03:44PM

kbannon wrote: »

Having amorous thoughts whilst driving?

Why i oughta....and you a mod aswell.

Clampdown on trailer ads beside M6 motorway

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