Clampdown on trailer ads beside M6 motorway

Run_to_da_hills

"Galway County Council has announced a clampdown on unauthorised advertising structures that have been placed on private lands along the M6 Galway to Dublin motorway in the county".

I welcome this move and hope it becomes nationwide also I hope they also ban outreached teleporters on the roadside advertising property.



http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0817/advertising.html

jaffa20

I thought there was already a ban on all motorway advertisting? About time if it's not the case.






Now just need a ban on speed cameras on motorways too.

Run_to_da_hills

jaffa20 wrote: »

I thought there was already a ban on all motorway advertisting? About time if it's not the case.






Now just need a ban on speed cameras on motorways too.

Apart from being ugly they are also a destraction.

jock101

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Apart from being ugly they are also a destraction.

What like Road signs! If these Adverts distracted you, you should not be driving! This is just a money maker for all the Broke CoCo's!:rolleyes: What about Billboards? Should they be banned!

Absurdum

jock101 wrote: »

Should they be banned!

only trolls

onimpulse

I think it's uncalled for to be honest... it's a distraction my foot... I'm sick of this government constantly making things hard for businesses and then wondering why we have record unemployment.

A lot of businesses in towns recently bypassed are going to suffer - I really dont' see the harm in these ad's- they're just trying to do what they can to get some of the passing trade. Only someone who shouldn't be behind the wheel anyway is going to be distracted to the point of danger by them - they may even help keep people awake by distracting them from the monotony of motorway driving!

We've far too many regulations in this country when it comes to business & it's counter productive - drive across the border & have a look around at the amount of business run from houses at the side of the road & the advertising outside them & compare it to here... having all shopping in foreign owned shopping centers doesn't do anything for this economy.

(just to be clear I have no connection to or involvement with any of these ad's)

Ali Babba

The bottom line here is all about money that the councils aren't making, it's got nothing to do with eyesores etc, typical of the money grabbing b@stards that they are.

KamiKazi

F*ck the RSA and their f*cking idiotic attitude to road safety!

Sort out the slick as ice manhole covers, huge potholes, muck and sh1te left by farmers, hills of gravel left by gobsh1te county councils, fuel spillages from buses and trucks THEN maybe start looking at removing ads along MOTORWAYS! Of all the f*cking places to be looking to improve road safety!!

Grrrr :mad:

Atlantic Dawn

Why do the same muppets who are getting rid of the trailer ads pay small fortunes for artistic sculptures to be placed beside some of the new motorways, seems every bit as much if not more of a distraction to drivers.

Cookie_Monster

so Galway Coco can now tell you where you are allowed leave machinery on your own land? Why?

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Why do the same muppets who are getting rid of the trailer ads pay small fortunes for artistic sculptures to be placed beside some of the new motorways, seems every bit as much if not more of a distraction to drivers.

+1

Run_to_da_hills

jock101 wrote: »

What like Road signs! If these Adverts distracted you, you should not be driving! This is just a money maker for all the Broke CoCo's!:rolleyes: What about Billboards? Should they be banned!

I have never seen an official commercial billboard on an Irish motorway. :rolleyes:

Low Energy Eng

Anyone see the trailor on the M6 that says "shame on you offaly county council"

Someones fairly thick over something!! Possibly a letter they recieved asking them to remove their trailor...

Think its offaly co co they refer to, saw it a while ago

Cicero

Drove M6 today:

The trailers are distracting and more-so- misleading....some are positioned at points where you might have to vere to the left/right...going 120KPH.....not the wisest of moves TBH.....
...If loss of tourism in certain midlands counties is the motivaiton for some posts here (not original post obviously)..then there's other ways and marketing channels to get your town noticed but really don't think this is the way....there is a science to road directions and to be honest, I feel some of the signs, in the way they are positioned.......are an accident waiting to happen....

kikel

And they should remove vehicle graphics aswell as thats distracting. :p:p:p:p:p

This totally distracted me on the quays in dublin last week.



The size of the exhausts is ridiculous, I couldn't take my eyes off it. Didn't mean i was going to crash.

Bodhan

As if motorway driving wasn't boring enough, now there'll be nothing to read

Run_to_da_hills

kikel wrote: »

And they should remove vehicle graphics aswell as thats distracting. :p:p:p:p:p

This totally distracted me on the quays in dublin last week.



The size of the exhausts is ridiculous, I couldn't take my eyes off it. Didn't mean i was going to crash.

At 18mph you are hardly going to swerve across the road infront of the path of another vehicle.

kikel

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

At 18mph you are hardly going to swerve across the road infront of the path of another vehicle.

But I could run kill a pedestrian or cyclist.

I presume the Mr Tayto van drives in other places than the quays.

If the council planning offices are doing this to give themselves something to do in these hard times fair enough. I wouldnt blame them for that, they're probably trying to justify there jobs. But anyone that says they're distracting is just being unreasonable.

daveharnett

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

"Galway County Council has announced a clampdown on unauthorised advertising structures that have been placed on private lands along the M6 Galway to Dublin motorway in the county".

So do you need planning permission to park a trailer on your farm now?

As to distracting drivers:
A: This is nannying of the highest order. Drivers are responsible for their own actions.

B: Apparently these aren't too distracting (as long as the council concerned gets it's cut)

Run_to_da_hills

kikel wrote: »

If the council planning offices are doing this to give themselves something to do in these hard times fair enough. I wouldnt blame them for that, they're probably trying to justify there jobs. But anyone that says they're distracting is just being unreasonable.

The problem is that various Joe muck's around the country would see the potential in renting out their road side sites to businesses to park their 40ft containers for a fee that would be a fraction to what JC Decaux, Taylor’s or any official advertising company would offer.

They would also be offering their services in a location where it would be illegal / forbidden for any official commercial advertising company to advertise without planning permission.

If this is not nipped in the bud every farmer and developer in the country with road side property would see the potential and would jump on the bandwagon. Eventually our interurbans would become blighted with them.

You must also remember that many of these same greedy farmers have already made a killing (at premium rate ) out of CPO's during the economoc boom for the land that was provided for these motorways in the first place.

Mike...

Seem's there is somewhat of a cull on advertising in Galway, Last week the city council took all the sandwich boards from business's around the city... Maybe it's time to start getting creative.

Run_to_da_hills

Mike... wrote: »

Seem's there is somewhat of a cull on advertising in Galway, Last week the city council took all the sandwich boards from business's around the city... Maybe it's time to start getting creative.

Thats ok as long as they don't stop them from selling the sandwitches.

Cookie_Monster

Mike... wrote: »

Seem's there is somewhat of a cull on advertising in Galway, Last week the city council took all the sandwich boards from business's around the city... Maybe it's time to start getting creative.

do they have any reason for that, seems totally over the top to me

veritable

A govt body (in this case the County Co) should have no right to interfere in what the owner of private land does with it, as long as he is not imposing a cost on other people.

What cost is he imposing by putting advertising on it? Keep your eyes on the road like a responsible driver and you will not notice the ads. These ads are on fields and not like the roadside art imposed on us.

What about the cost (both financial and as a direct roadside distraction) these stupid statues impose on us as motorists and taxpayers?

Where do these useless muppets in local govt get off telling somebody what they can and can't do with their own property?

Run_to_da_hills

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

do they have any reason for that, seems totally over the top to me

Apart from the treat of pedestrians with impaired vision tripping over them and then taking legal action against the council for failing to keep their pathways clear of obstacles.

Seth Brundle

If you drive much faster (160km/h+) on the motorways then you tend not to notice them

Cookie_Monster

veritable wrote: »

A govt body (in this case the County Co) should have no right to interfere in what the owner of private land does with it, as long as he is not imposing a cost on other people.

I wouldn't go that black and white, ye can't have people illegally burning dangerous waste, or building unplanned buildings etc for example.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Apart from the treat of pedestrians with impaired vision tripping over them and then taking legal action against the council for failing to keep their pathways clear of obstacles.

why has this threat only appeared in the country in the last year then and not the preceding 100? ****ing PCism - how can you fail to see a 3ft high sign. What about rubbish bins, present the same threat, are they being removed?

kbannon wrote: »

If you drive much faster (160km/h+) on the motorways then you tend not to notice them

:D:D

R.O.R

veritable wrote: »

Where do these useless muppets in local govt get off telling somebody what they can and can't do with their own property?

Try adding 4 stories on to the top of your house, and let us know how you get on without planning permission.


NI clamped down on this recently (remember seeing a news report) and it's been outlawed in the UK for a good while.

Advertising hoardings require planning permission and you aren't going to get that by the side of a motorway. This is people getting around that by exploiting a loophole which someone is now closing.

veritable

Quote "I wouldn't go that black and white, ye can't have people illegally burning dangerous waste, or building unplanned buildings etc for example."


I think it is black and white. Burning dangerous waste is against the law precisely because it imposes a cost (pollution) on other people. And unplanned buildings? why on earth would anybody build or even buy an unplanned building?
If you mean planned as in planning permission; you should not be stopped from building on your own land as long as it doesn't affect anybody else. It's pretty black and white to me.

Cookie_Monster

R.O.R wrote: »

Advertising hoardings require planning permission and you aren't going to get that by the side of a motorway. This is people getting around that by exploiting a loophole which someone is now closing.

but its just a parked trailer, if Tesco park there's trailers somewhere do they need permission as they also have ads on the side of them...

Jaysoose

What about all the sheep and the cows in the fields alongside the motorway i find them terribly distracting and often find myself drifting off to the side of the road as a stare at them.

Absolute joke decision and some county councillors buddy who is in the advertising business has obviously thrown a wobbler..

Wont somebody think of the children.

Jaysoose

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

but its just a parked trailer, if Tesco park there's trailers somewhere do they need permission as they also have ads on the side of them...

No But...maybe..."Its just different ok"..

veritable

R.O.R wrote: »

Try adding 4 stories on to the top of your house, and let us know how you get on without planning permission.


NI clamped down on this recently (remember seeing a news report) and it's been outlawed in the UK for a good while.

Advertising hoardings require planning permission and you aren't going to get that by the side of a motorway. This is people getting around that by exploiting a loophole which someone is now closing.

What you mean is that they are being banned because councils are in bed with outdoor advertising companies (JCDecaux in Dublin is one example) ? Conflict of interest?

Run_to_da_hills

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

why has this threat only appeared in the country in the last year then and not the preceding 100? ****ing PCism - how can you fail to see a 3ft high sign. What about rubbish bins, present the same threat, are they being removed? :D:D

Because the compo culture is a relatively recent thing in this country and councils are strapped enough without having to deal with it.

It is a lot easier to trip over a fold up sandwich board than a council bin which is a fixed object that has remained in the same position for years which is also in line with the edge of the pavement and lamp posts etc.

I.S.T.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

"Galway County Council has announced a clampdown on unauthorised advertising structures that have been placed on private lands along the M6 Galway to Dublin motorway in the county".

I welcome this move and hope it becomes nationwide also I hope they also ban outreached teleporters on the roadside advertising property.



http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0817/advertising.html

Why should they be banned? You should be allowed to park a truck on your own private property. So what if it has an advertisment on the site of it. This is just the Government protecting their friends in the big advertising companies and screwing the ordinary man trying to make a few extra quid.

jock101 wrote: »

What like Road signs! If these Adverts distracted you, you should not be driving! This is just a money maker for all the Broke CoCo's!:rolleyes: What about Billboards? Should they be banned!

For once, I agree with you!

Run_to_da_hills

Jaysoose wrote: »

What about all the sheep and the cows in the fields alongside the motorway i find them terribly distracting and often find myself drifting off to the side of the road as a stare at them.

Absolute joke decision and some county councillors buddy who is in the advertising business has obviously thrown a wobbler..

Wont somebody think of the children.

If you are trying to count sheep while driving you shouldn't on the road in the first place.

Most people would pull in and take a nap. :rolleyes:

Saruman

To be honest I like roadside advertising. In fact I love driving in the US and if it is coming up to lunch or I want to stop for a break all I have to do is look up for a moment, see what the adverts are telling me is nearby including distance and exit number and I have a plan.

In Ireland if I even need to stop for fuel on a motorway I need to pick an exit and hope for the best. If I have never taken that exit before I can find myself in the arse of no where with not a town in sight.

If a sign distracts someone, that person should not be driving.

R.O.R

veritable wrote: »

What you mean is that they are being banned because councils are in bed with outdoor advertising companies (JCDecaux in Dublin is one example) ? Conflict of interest?

What I mean is that advertising hoardings are banned from the side of Motorways as it could be distracting to passing motorists - if they focus on the advert rather than the road ahead. No conflict of interest as the likes of JCD wouldn't get planning permission for a billboard at the side of the M50.

Ad's differ from sculptures in that there is stuff to read on adverts. They differ from roadsigns as there is just enough information on them to keep you informed (designed specifically so). Ad's differ from Sheep and Cows because you generally don't have writing on sheep or cows which you'll try and read.

Run_to_da_hills

IrishSpeedTraps wrote: »

Why should they be banned? You should be allowed to park a truck on your own private property. So what if it has an advertisement on the site of it. This is just the Government protecting their friends in the big advertising companies and screwing the ordinary man trying to make a few extra quid.

Not so, as I already mentioned no official advertisement company would be allowed erect any fixed billboard advertisement without having FPP whether it was off a motorway or not.

If this was not the case JC Decaux would have had billboards plastered in every street corner of Dublin city and would have stuck its two fingers up at the bicycle project.

wet-paint

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

You must also remember that many of these same greedy farmers have already made a killing (at premium rate ) out of CPO's during the economoc boom for the land that was provided for these motorways in the first place.

Not to go off at a complete tangent, but most of the CPOs for the galway stretch of the M6 have only gone through in the last year or two, which wasn't really in the boom time for Ireland, and the very most any farmer will get, is market rate, and nothing more, certainly no compensation for having to sell their land. In a lot of cases they get less than the market rate for their land.[/quote]

Cookie_Monster

what about those toll booths, they are a big distraction to me driving on the motorway, so distracting I have to slow down and sometimes stop on a motorway just to look at them :eek::eek::eek:

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Not so, as I already mentioned no official advertisement company would be allowed erect any fixed billboard advertisement without having FPP whether it was off a motorway or not.

If this was not the case JC Decaux would have had billboards plastered in every street corner of Dublin city and would have stuck its two fingers up at the bicycle project.

what about those advertisements telling you you are on a PPP motorway? No relevance other than advertising the fact

Run_to_da_hills

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

What about those advertisements telling you you are on a PPP motorway? No relevance other than advertising the fact

At least you may have some remote chance in trying to sue the council if you run up the arse of another car while trying to read it.

shanemc1

What about all the business's on the m50 and other's. Why dont they demolish all the business's there? It's a fact that theses are not distractions. If you get distracted by these your an idiot.

People should not be told what they park on there property. Is it not bad enough having it ruined split it half but then some smart arse council official then coming to say what you can and cant do with your remaining piece

******rant over**********

Cookie_Monster

I can see the advertisement on the side of the Ikea building from the M50, does this need to go too, now?

veritable

R.O.R wrote: »

What I mean is that advertising hoardings are banned from the side of Motorways as it could be distracting to passing motorists - if they focus on the advert rather than the road ahead. No conflict of interest as the likes of JCD wouldn't get planning permission for a billboard at the side of the M50.

Ad's differ from sculptures in that there is stuff to read on adverts. They differ from roadsigns as there is just enough information on them to keep you informed (designed specifically so). Ad's differ from Sheep and Cows because you generally don't have writing on sheep or cows which you'll try and read.

If you were being consistent you would advocate that all roadside advertising be banned, not just motorway, because it supposedly is too distracting.

Why not ban scenic views or animals in fields at the same time? Surely they are distracting to people. Why don't we just ban people like you! I can't stand how people like you think!

You also can't seriously be saying that roadside art is less distracting because it contains no words?

Run_to_da_hills

shanemc1 wrote: »

What about all the business's on the m50 and other's. Why dont they demolish all the business's there? It's a fact that theses are not distractions. If you get distracted by these your an idiot.

People should not be told what they park on there property. Is it not bad enough having it ruined split it half but then some smart arse council official then coming to say what you can and cant do with your remaining piece

******rant over**********

More than likely many of businesses were present before the M50 ever existed, and if they didn't they would be a registered businesses which already be paying a premium rate for the square footage on which they operate.

Unlike the farmer who already got colossal CPO compensation along with possibly every free hand out that the EU had offered to them over the last three decades.

cantdecide

I don't think road safety is a valid motivation to remove illegal signage.

I'm DELIGHTED that these muck savages are being prevented from profiting from bombarding me with gawdy advertising wherever I go.











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Seth Brundle

cantdecide banned for a week for advertising:D

R.O.R

veritable wrote: »

If you were being consistent you would advocate that all roadside advertising be banned, not just motorway, because it supposedly is too distracting.

Why not ban scenic views or animals in fields at the same time? Surely they are distracting to people. Why don't we just ban people like you! I can't stand how people like you think!

You also can't seriously be saying that roadside art is less distracting because it contains no words?

Well - I'm glad I offend you - you seem like the highly strung type who'd get wound up easy enough.

Reading and looking are different things. Reading at low speed and reading at high speed mean taking your eyes away from the road for a hugely different distance.

wet-paint

No they don't. Think about it. A sign only becomes legible at a certain distance, whatever speed you're doing. You just have less time to read it if you're going faster.

Jaysoose

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

If you are trying to count sheep while driving you shouldn't on the road in the first place.

Most people would pull in and take a nap. :rolleyes:

I cant help it they are distracting me, im going to ring the council and get sheep in fields banned.

veritable

R.O.R wrote: »

Well - I'm glad I offend you - you seem like the highly strung type who'd get wound up easy enough.

Reading and looking are different things. Reading at low speed and reading at high speed mean taking your eyes away from the road for a hugely different distance.

I'm definitely not offended by you! I just think the way you think is ridiculous!