(UK) Woman and son forced to live in tent because of squatter in their home

luv-eirexx · 13-08-2010 02:01PM #1

I just read this and think it is ridiculous. Why should the squatter's rights come before the owners???
If i was the owner i'd move in along with the squatter and make her life so bad that she'd want to leave!! .. . .I know, I'm mean

:D:D
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/837556-woman-forced-to-live-in-a-tent-after-squatter-takes-over-house

Suzy Butler and her son are camping in a friend’s garden after the 32-year-old’s former tenant allegedly refused to leave when they returned from Peru.
Ms Butler even required a police escort to get the tent from the home she has owned for five years – because of Carmen Nobre’s ‘squatter’s rights’.
‘I cannot believe my son and I are homeless while this woman is squatting in our house and there is nothing we can do about it,’ said Ms Butler.
‘She told me she had lost a lot of money on the stock exchange and she could not pay rent and would not be leaving.
‘I spend my life helping people who have been made homeless but never thought it would happen to me.’
Ms Butler let the home to Ms Nobre on a short-term agreement in February, before leaving for two months with four-year-old son Bruno.
She said the battle for the property in Hove, East Sussex, had cost her £1,000 in legal fees and the council and police had been unable to help.
Ms Nobre, who lives at the house with her daughter, has now been given two weeks to leave – but she could remain for months if the matter goes to court.
She declined to comment.

ancapailldorcha · 13-08-2010 02:02PM

Why do squatter's even have rights?

Brendog · 13-08-2010 02:03PM

I just read this to see what a "squatter" was.....

Brendog · 13-08-2010 02:05PM

she a good friend letting her camp in her garden....:rolleyes:

Cookie_Monster · 13-08-2010 02:05PM

Squatter rights only become active after 12 years or something like that.

pablomakaveli · 13-08-2010 02:08PM

She should call the women out of the house under the guise of having a competition to see if she can throw a hula-hoop over the chimney.

Then instead of throwing the hula-hoop she can run back into the house while the squatter is left standing outside like a fool.

billymitchell · 13-08-2010 02:09PM

I heard your one claiming the squatters rights is a relation of Pat Kenny!

Dravokivich · 13-08-2010 02:09PM

Suzy Butler and her son are camping in a friend’s garden after the 32-year-old’s former tenant allegedly refused to leave when they returned from Peru.

Ms Butler even required a police escort to get the tent from the home she has owned for five years – because of Carmen Nobre’s ‘squatter’s rights’.

‘I cannot believe my son and I are homeless while this woman is squatting in our house and there is nothing we can do about it,’ said Ms Butler.

‘She told me she had lost a lot of money on the stock exchange and she could not pay rent and would not be leaving.

‘I spend my life helping people who have been made homeless but never thought it would happen to me.’

Ms Butler let the home to Ms Nobre on a short-term agreement in February, before leaving for two months with four-year-old son Bruno.

She said the battle for the property in Hove, East Sussex, had cost her £1,000 in legal fees and the council and police had been unable to help.

Ms Nobre, who lives at the house with her daughter, has now been given two weeks to leave – but she could remain for months if the matter goes to court.

She declined to comment.

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Story on the link above...

It's completely nuts... this person isn't squating... she's fúcking trespassing...

bonerm · 13-08-2010 02:09PM

In that photo the kid looks like he has been detached at the midriff.

Doop · 13-08-2010 02:11PM

Brendog wrote: »

she a good friend letting her camp in her garden....:rolleyes:

Excatly what I thought! with friends like those who needs enemies!

Although it does seem more like a tenant v's landlord dispute if you read the comments below from people who saw the story on tv.

13-08-2010 02:11PM

Nothing to do with squatters, it's a tenant that refuses to leave. Eviction should be simple enough, given they've stopped paying rent

bonerm · 13-08-2010 02:13PM

pablomakaveli wrote: »

She should call the women out of the house under the guise of having a competition to see if she can throw a hula-hoop over the chimney.

Then instead of throwing the hula-hoop she can run back into the house while the squatter is left standing outside like a fool.

That only works against carny-folk.

Hail 2 Da Chimp · 13-08-2010 02:14PM

In the comments in the news artical it says the "squatter" has actually paid 6 months rent, when the owner came home early from traveling she expected the squatter to leave and the squatter said, tough, STFU noob. Now the owner is crying about it...

General Zod · 13-08-2010 02:15PM

It's a tenant that paid upfront for a 6 month lease.

Dravokivich · 13-08-2010 02:16PM

Doop wrote: »

Excatly what I thought! with friends like those who needs enemies!

Although it does seem more like a tenant v's landlord dispute if you read the comments below from people who saw the story on tv.

The squater is an "Ex Tenant" which would mean there's currently no lease or rent agreement.

Edit:

General Zod wrote: »

It's a tenant that paid upfront for a 6 month lease.

Report I read said short term and only referenced 2 months as a time period. Also says no rent had ever been paid, the squater doesn't seem to intend on paying it either...

NothingMan · 13-08-2010 02:17PM

Her first mistake was heading to the police instead of just using more *cough* hands on methods.

OutlawPete · 13-08-2010 02:18PM

She confronts her here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix8UoMV4NjE

General Zod · 13-08-2010 02:22PM

General Zod wrote: »

It's a tenant that paid upfront for a 6 month lease.

disregard, I've found a biot more info..

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/8318571.Hove_mum_faces_sleeping_tent_after__squatters__take_over_home/

ROCKMAN · 13-08-2010 02:22PM

The owner problem as daft as its sound is she tried to use the law and now her hands are tied ,she has to wait the 2 weeks or longer for her court to take effect ,

If she had just cracked up when she wouldn't leave and when are with a few mates and fcuked all the squatters stuff out on the street and changed the locks ,Yes she be end up in court but with non payments of rent ,short term lease etc she may have got a slap in the wrists but she wouldn't be homeless ,

Sometimes you are better of bending the law then trying to used it , Sad but true

bonerm · 13-08-2010 02:25PM

Anyone get the impression this woman is a possible relation of Tim-Nice-But-Dim? Owns a house but has no job. Can afford to go off to Peru with son Bruno whilst leaving someone back in Blighty to pay her mortgage. Now the deal has gone sour and she's throwing a hissy by camping in her friends garden.

Not much to work on granted, but I'm guessing she doesn't live to much in the real world?

General Zod · 13-08-2010 02:26PM

also, she isn't living in a tent, she's saying she may have to.

And regadless of the tenancy agreement, the person still in the house is not a squatter, the landlady has not followed correct procedure for evicting her.

brianthebard · 13-08-2010 02:30PM

What was your one doing going to peru for six months with a four year old for anyways???

Dravokivich · 13-08-2010 02:32PM

brianthebard wrote: »

What was your one doing going to peru for six months with a four year old for anyways???

while she spent two months helping poverty-stricken communities in Peru.

2 months... not 6...

General Zod · 13-08-2010 02:32PM

also, she's planning on moving to spain to give her son a "better quality of life".

There is a multitude of information on this story that isn't being told.

bazmaiden · 13-08-2010 02:36PM

OutlawPete wrote: »

She confronts her here:

Loving the facepalm in the first 25 seconds of that clip

monkeypants · 13-08-2010 02:38PM

I used to live near there. There are loads of hippies like that around there. Neither article seems to carry the full story. Churnalism at it's best.

topper75 · 13-08-2010 03:09PM

The youtube clip: "little boy moving from place to place...whilst your daughter is sleeping in his bed"

Suzy Butler makes it sound like something disgusting. Ugh - another person in their beds!! She seems to have no concept of what letting a house is.:D

Maybe I'm slow - but this started in Feb and 6months rent was paid upfront right? How is the tenant behind in payments?

General Zod · 13-08-2010 03:10PM

she says there was a 6 month lease, but she has fallen behind on her rent.

seamus · 13-08-2010 03:23PM

This is the risk that you take when you rent out any property, be it your home or otherwise. Only a court can forcibly remove someone from their home, and for all intents and purposes this house is the Peruvian woman's home.

If she knew that she was only going for a short period, then she shouldn't have given the woman sole occupancy and she would have been able to throw her out on the street whenever she wanted.

Similar rules apply here in Ireland. I've heard of a lot of people going off travelling for a year or two and renting out their houses, I'm surprised we haven't seen similar cases like this one yet.

pickarooney · 13-08-2010 03:32PM

The owner comes off looking a bit stupid. If she really believed that she was in the right why did she just walk out of her own house and leave the tenant there? It didn't look like a small place - plenty of room for 4 people.

brianthebard · 13-08-2010 03:47PM

Dravokivich wrote: »

2 months... not 6...

gave a six month lease though. If she knew she was coming back she should have given notification to the tenant, she should only have been entitled to 28 days (by Irish law) unless she gave the tenant a six month lease in which case she's an idiot (the answer I'm leaning towards atm).

(UK) Woman and son forced to live in tent because of squatter in their home

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