where's all this talk of College been a non stop party

Deus Ex Machina · 11-08-2010 03:48PM

I just finished my first year in college, and from what I can see it is no different than anything else in that the experience is what you make it. If you want to be somebody who spends all their time and money drinking and "partying" then the opportunities to do so are there. There are also opportunities to develop yourself in a wide range of capacities. The whole constant drinking and sexuality thing is pushed, particularly by societies, who want to match up with the incoming students' expectations in order to gain members, but there is no real substance to it. I found that it wasn't inherent in the college experience or the natures of those who partook in it, it had a sort of idiotic forced feel to it. The "myth" seems to be a self perpetuating one, as people expect college life to be a debauch one, they seek such things out purposefully. I found that side of college boring and basically pathetic, so I removed myself from it early doors, and found that the real benefits of college were much more varied, valuable and enjoyable than "tins with the lads".

starlit · 11-08-2010 03:49PM

pickarooney wrote: »

If you really had a great long-term memory you wouldn't need to revise in the week before exams

Well, the thing is I start my study before anyone else does! I know a swot that what helps with my long term memory keep looking back over stuff until it comes out my ears! Saying that now, stuff I did in assignments I can remember in an exam and not have looked at for months if there was a question where I could answer with an assignment I had done.

KittyeeTrix · 11-08-2010 03:50PM

snuggles285 wrote: »

ya never understood why people did that! how they did that at all and be able to sit an exam with a clear head at all!? I tended to give up the drink at least a month before the major exams the end of the year and it always came in my favour!

Must be an age thing as there is no way that I could manage to get up and go to labs and lectures if I was out the night before.
The youngsters in my labs would be out till 4am the night before our Friday morning lab and stink of booze:eek:.

Most of my lectures should have about 120 people in them but very rarely managed to get over 50 in them, mental. Early morning ones would usually have less than 30....

That said, the girls who had to resit the exams said that from what they could see, most of the class were repeating!!! Consequences are a biatch:)

MarcusFenix · 11-08-2010 03:52PM

+1 ^^^ I'm 22 and theres no bleedin way I could do any of that!

Oh and the fact that you do so well first time round puts you in favor come decision time. Like if you need a certain % to get into a special post grad.

Well thats what it's like in my anonymous college

starlit · 11-08-2010 03:53PM

fluffyorganic1 wrote: »

Must be an age thing as there is no way that I could manage to get up and go to labs and lectures if I was out the night before.
The youngsters in my labs would be out till 4am the night before our Friday morning lab and stink of booze:eek:.

Most of my lectures should have about 120 people in them but very rarely managed to get over 50 in them, mental. Early morning ones would usually have less than 30....

That said, the girls who had to resit the exams said that from what they could see, most of the class were repeating!!! Consequences are a biatch:)

yup, never stayed out too late when I went out during the week. I tended to only stay out late on a night if there was a day off after it or something. Tended to do most of my partying at the weekends really! More productive then by monday well kinda...

The only and ever time i managed to do that was when I was working in dublin...almost knocked me for six so tended to only do it once in a while!

11-08-2010 03:55PM

The thread title is really annoying me :pac:

blogga · 11-08-2010 03:55PM

I think the talk can be found in the land of the Celtic Tiger, a mythical place where everyone riverdances puking into the sunset while fountains of cocaine flow beside masticked houses developed by apprentice plumbers. Around there anyway.

starlit · 11-08-2010 03:56PM

MarcusFenix wrote: »

+1 ^^^ I'm 22 and theres no bleedin way I could do any of that!

Oh and the fact that you do so well first time round puts you in favor come decision time. Like if you need a certain % to get into a special post grad.

Well thats what it's like in my anonymous college

You go to UCC or CIT?;)

Deus Ex Machina · 11-08-2010 03:56PM

I also think that free education is a terrible mistake. There is absolutely no sense among any of my college peers that what they are involved in is in any way valuable, and of course it isn't, it is given to them. The low turn outs for lectures, and even lower levels of attention when people actually bother to turn up is a genuine shame, I was personally embarrassed by it on many occasions. I don't think that fees would completely solve the problem, there are many college students who sail through repeat after repeat at no personal cost due to bank rolling parents, but it may narrow down the complete wasters somewhat, and instill at least something approaching a sense of worth in the education process.

drkpower · 11-08-2010 03:58PM

Milena Damp Backbone wrote: »

Considering that no study has ever been done, there is no general rule..

Milena Damp Backbone wrote: »

It's really not that different to what I'm doing now, except I'll be paid much more and I won't have to have two other jobs on the side. There will be very little work to take home, if I'm productive during the day. I'll be working in a team, as I often do now and any required travel is compensated. I'll have weekends off, so I can go out on a Friday night and have a lie-in the next morning. I can go away for weekend breaks or go home for the weekend...
I don't know why you have this rigid idea of what a 'serious job' entails and think overtime is normal. Every job is different and I've hardly ever had to do overtime beyond the odd hour here and there. What do you do?.[/

Again, you almost completely omit a reference to any responsibilities and obligations of the job itself; that is the primary reason why it is easier to booze in college than it is in work, which was the primary focus of thos discussion. Your focus is on what you dont have to do outside of work, not on what you have to do in work. If your job has no significant responsibilities and obligations, I wouldnt consider it 'serious' (in the sense of how I used the word, in the context of this discussion). As you ask, I am a medical negligence and healthcare lawyer.

Milena Damp Backbone wrote: »

Why unusual? As I've said, college is often much more than just the academic course.

Generally, the very purpose or college is to educate to provide a certain base of knowledge so as to prepare someone for their working life. Generally, the responsibilities/obligations of any working life come and increase over time. Generally, a person has few responsibilities/obligations in their early career, and less in college. That is the general rule, but of course, i would need to have interviewed every employee/student who ever lived and to have done a study on it in order to make this assertion.:D

11-08-2010 04:00PM

prinz wrote: »

Forgive me but your posts are steeped in insinuations about Mickey Mouse degrees, degree grade levels, etc.

Personal experience. I've given grinds for over 6 years in Ireland and the UK, I have a fairly good idea of what is required on different courses in different institutions. Some of the students were most definitely on Mickey Mouse courses. They could party all week and still pass, because all they had to do was regurgitate lecture notes. I had students who were getting A's in 'Spanish 3' (3rd year Spanish) and whose level was around A2 (post-elementary). Their assignments were things like 'write about your weekend'. I am not kidding.

Any mention of this being confined to your course alone?

In my experience, only the rich/lazy ones fit into that category. The rich ones could party while the rest of us worked and the lazy ones came out with bad degrees.

Combine that with my anecdote in the same post about someone asking who was up for a pint and I think it's pretty clear.

MarcusFenix · 11-08-2010 04:03PM

snuggles285 wrote: »

You go to UCC or CIT?;)

CIT, the GOOD one!;)

You cannot, and believe me i have tried, spell biscuit without CIT.

You come out with either bisu, or bsui:eek:

starlit · 11-08-2010 04:04PM

MarcusFenix wrote: »

CIT, the GOOD one!;)

You cannot, and believe me i have tried, spell biscuit without CIT.

You come out with either bisu, or bsui:eek:

Ah cool. Went to ITT and UCC.:D

Hank Scorpio · 11-08-2010 04:06PM

I went overboard in 1st year. UCC is just a mad place to be a student, especially living in the apartments.

The amount of crazy sh1t that goes on is unreal. Non stop partying all week every week. It went abit far though sometimes and some of us ended getting into proper drink/drug fuelled trouble.

I did so little work in 1st year I didnt even bother to attend my repeat exams.

I dont regret the year tho as it was an awesome experience.

I took a few months out to get my head together and decided on another(very similar) course. 3 Years later iv completed 6+6 months of summer work experience and got a very good degree. I decided to commute up and down from home and this worked wondered for me.

Failing 1st year was one of the biggest kicks up the hole I ever got but it worked out in the long run.

Moral of the story, drink hard, study harder:)

pickarooney · 11-08-2010 04:06PM

There is a certain category of student who simply knows how to absorb information quickly and retain it over a long period and how to seprate the genuinely useful information from the fluff. These people tend to do well in exams/assignments and have plenty of time for a social life. They're not lazy, just efficient.

MarcusFenix · 11-08-2010 04:08PM

snuggles285 wrote: »

Ah cool. Went to ITT and UCC.:D

You mean TIT ya!?:D I'm so so sorry :rolleyes: Postgrad in UCC?

starlit · 11-08-2010 04:08PM

UCC very laid back compared to IT Tralee....:o

starlit · 11-08-2010 04:09PM

MarcusFenix wrote: »

You mean TIT ya!?:D I'm so so sorry :rolleyes: Postgrad in UCC?

Yes! thanks for the pun ha ha ha! Ya did my degree in IT Tralee and did a postgrad higher dipolma in UCC.

MarcusFenix · 11-08-2010 04:09PM

pickarooney wrote: »

There is a certain category of student who simply knows how to absorb information quickly and retain it over a long period and how to seprate the genuinely useful information from the fluff. These people tend to do well in exams/assignments and have plenty of time for a social life. They're not lazy, just efficient.

God I wish I was one:(

Yes! thanks for the pun ha ha ha! Ya did my degree in IT Tralee and did a postgrad higher dipolma in UCC.

Me thinks of doing something like that, IT's are great for course content but any qualification from a University just must look better on CV + having proper UCC hoodies etc!;):p

11-08-2010 04:10PM

drkpower wrote: »

Again, you almost completely omit a reference to any responsibilities and obligations of the job itself; that is the primary reason why it is easier to booze in college than it is in work, which was the primary focus of thos discussion. Your focus is on what you dont have to do outside of work, not on what you have to do in work. If your job has no significant responsibilities and obligations, I wouldnt consider it 'serious' (in the sense of how I used the word, in the context of this discussion). As you ask, I am a medical negligence and healthcare lawyer.

I didn't go into the responsibilities of my college work either, but you didn't have a problem with that, did you? I told you that my tasks and responsibilities are largely the same. As for 'significant' responsibilities and obligations, that is completely subjective. All jobs are different, they all have their own responsibilities and obligations. Out of curiosity, what type of job would you say wasn't 'serious'?

starlit · 11-08-2010 04:11PM

Would love to do a masters though, don't know what yet or where or what college/uni to go to!?

College Rocks!;)

pickarooney · 11-08-2010 04:12PM

Circus Clown?

Tar.Aldarion · 11-08-2010 04:13PM

http://www.ohiocollegeclowningarts.com/

starlit · 11-08-2010 04:13PM

pickarooney wrote: »

Circus Clown?

? who you refering to? who me? no....

:eek::o

MarcusFenix · 11-08-2010 04:15PM

Who the Funk said clowns weren't serious?

prinz · 11-08-2010 04:18PM

pickarooney wrote: »

Circus Clown?

Comedy is serious business.

drkpower · 11-08-2010 04:19PM

Milena Damp Backbone wrote: »

I didn't go into the responsibilities of my college work either, but you didn't have a problem with that, did you?

I did actually; but I had a bigger problem with you not referring to obligations/responsibilities of your work. As I said from my first post, the reason why boozing is harder in work than college (aside from age:() is because of the responsibilities/obligations of work over college. It is extreley telling that throughout this discussion you have referred more to the hours you have/had in college vs work than the more important issie of the quality of the work.

Milena Damp Backbone wrote: »

I told you that my tasks and responsibilities are largely the same. As for 'significant' responsibilities and obligations, that is completely subjective. All jobs are different, they all have their own responsibilities and obligations. Out of curiosity, what type of job would you say wasn't 'serious'?

Yes and everyone is beautiful in their own way.......;)

Non-serious jobs? Many; a binman; most mundane service jobs; yours.....

starlit · 11-08-2010 04:19PM

I don't think I'd fancy a clown masters would prefer the conventional IT or multimedia or internet networking/security or something! Or else something total different either related to IT or not but not Business thats for sure...

prinz · 11-08-2010 04:20PM

Deus Ex Machina wrote: »

I don't think that fees would completely solve the problem, there are many college students who sail through repeat after repeat at no personal cost due to bank rolling parents, but it may narrow down the complete wasters somewhat, and instill at least something approaching a sense of worth in the education process.

It may also narrow down the people who may be perfect for college but for whom it is financially unviable.

A Primal Nut · 11-08-2010 04:21PM

I drank a lot in college but i drink more now while working because I have money. Also, I've had a lot more casual sex since college than during it. I found the girls really conservative during college and not like you hear people talking about how they want to get laid all the time. I have found older girls more "up for it" because they are used to it i think, and its less of a big deal.

None of my friends in college or anyone i knew were shagging a different girl every weekend, like lots of people would have you believe.

Also, I don't think the people who partied the most did the worst in exams. Didn't work like that at all. Afteral 90% of study in college is done during the exams in a 2 week period. Except my fial year.

where's all this talk of College been a non stop party

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