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Bring back lugs brannigan

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  • #32
    humanji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    skelliser wrote: »
    The pc brigade here should take heed of these comments before passing judgement on Brannigan.


    -Justice Paul Carney


    -Senator David Norris

    wikipedia


    Back in his day people had respect for the law, if you stepped out of line you got a belt from this lad. By all accounts it did the trick. can anyone from the PC brigade tell me that the same can be said off todays society.
    Seems if you way things up the positives outweighed the negatives.
    Back in the day we would bang rocks together to make fire. It was fine then, but time moved on.

    If gardaí start smacking scumbags, the scumbags will start shooting the gardaí.


  • #33
    D.R cowboy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭D.R cowboy


    humanji wrote: »
    Back in the day we would bang rocks together to make fire. It was fine then, but time moved on.

    If gardaí start smacking scumbags, the scumbags will start shooting the gardaí.

    absolute rubbish man, obviously I don't expect the cops too take on the big guys eg murder

    I mean teenage scumbags, robbers, People on Drugs, people verbally abusing people etc

    On a case to case base, guys you know what Dublin can be like, i really do not need to explain myself:rolleyes:


  • #34
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Lets make this thread about Zapp Brannigan.. he's much cooler, and his quotes are much more sexified


  • #35
    Paparazzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,395 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    skelliser wrote: »
    The pc brigade here should take heed of these comments before passing judgement on Brannigan.


    -Justice Paul Carney


    -Senator David Norris

    wikipedia


    Back in his day people had respect for the law, if you stepped out of line you got a belt from this lad. By all accounts it did the trick. can anyone from the PC brigade tell me that the same can be said off todays society.
    Seems if you way things up the positives outweighed the negatives.

    People didn't respect Brannigan, they feared and hated him!
    You talk about the "pc brigade" as if it's a bad thing. Brannigan beat up innocent people that he thought looked wrong. Back in his day long hair and a motorbike meant you had a good chance of getting beaten up by him.

    I reckon it's just trolling on here, but police like lugs brannigan are utter scumbags, don't try and make them out to be heros. They breed hatred for the policeforce, not respect. I normally like David Norris, but on this occasion he got it badly wrong.


  • #36
    Rubik.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭Rubik.


    skelliser wrote: »


    Back in his day people had respect for the law, if you stepped out of line you got a belt from this lad. By all accounts it did the trick. can anyone from the PC brigade tell me that the same can be said off todays society.
    Seems if you way things up the positives outweighed the negatives.

    What, like back in the golden age of industrial schools like Letterfrack and Artane? If you give powers, like the ones you're suggesting, to the police they will be abused.


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  • #37
    Pace2008
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    D.R cowboy wrote: »
    absolute rubbish man, obviously I don't expect the cops too take on the big guys eg murder

    I mean teenage scumbags, robbers, People on Drugs, people verbally abusing people etc

    On a case to case base, guys you know what Dublin can be like, i really do not need to explain myself:rolleyes:
    You never know, they might even sort out those Billy Goats that have plagued your sort since time immemorial.


  • #38
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    feelingstressed wrote: »
    Blame the courts who let people clock up thirty plus convictions and not the gardai who apprehend and charge them and get them to appear in court
    +1000. We need a decent judiciary with some bloody cop on and consistency. Ask any Guard. They will catch low level scumbags on the way to becoming fully fledged scumbags and they get frustrated with the courts letting these people off the hook. That frustrates them and drops morale. The 3 strikes your out thing worked well in New York and I argue it would work well here too.

    The Lugs approach while fine to look at in the rear view mirror wont work today. The odd time maybe, but personally I would have issues with some muppet pulling "I am de Laaaw" on me and getting punchy and the real scumbags as humanji would simply off someone like that. TBH if someone charged with upholding the law landed me in hospital with a beating I would be tempted to off him myself. In this country if I didn? I'd likely not serve more than 8 years tops. Different times.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #39
    PARARORY
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 294 ✭✭PARARORY


    Maybe the scumbag was related to the guy u p*ssed on in in Dun Laoighre.... Cant say I'd blame him :D


  • #40
    El Siglo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,803 ✭✭✭El Siglo


    I'd rather have Zapp Brannigan than Lugs Brannigan...:pac:


  • #41
    skelliser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭skelliser


    Rubik. wrote: »
    What, like back in the golden age of industrial schools like Letterfrack and Artane? If you give powers, like the ones you're suggesting, to the police they will be abused.

    I was waiting for this argrument, imo it has nothing to do with Brannigan. i dont see the thousands of ciminals Brannigan dealt with looking for redress or compensation.


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  • #42
    D.R cowboy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭D.R cowboy


    PARARORY wrote: »
    Maybe the scumbag was related to the guy u p*ssed on in in Dun Laoighre.... Cant say I'd blame him :D


    No he has no friends

    And FTW Myself and the guys often bring him food and give him money, we all know him. And if any of the real scumbags do be perishing him we send them packing very lively.


  • #43
    genericguy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭genericguy


    D.R cowboy wrote: »
    I was chatting to the old man today, some scumbag keyed his new car today outside the office. when they checked the CCTV it was a local scumbag well know by the garda , the scumbag was off his head, at one stage during the incident the guy was lying on top of the car. My father rung the garda and they came straight away , and they recognised the well know scumbag. two hours later the garda arrived with the scumbag pissing himself and spitting , they made him apologies and said they were happy to leave him with my father for a few hours , but my father said he needed a few slaps to learn the lesson and told them to arrest him even thought he will get away as he has hundreds of convictions


    I think its time we brought back the lugs brannigan school of thought;)

    based on what you've previously told us about your father i don't see him as any more moral than said scumbag (post 47):

    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=64946685#post64946685

    was he going to get his mate around and double team the offender?


  • #44
    D.R cowboy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭D.R cowboy


    genericguy wrote: »
    based on what you've previously told us about your father i don't see him as any more moral than said scumbag (post 47):

    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=64946685#post64946685

    was he going to get his mate around and double team the offender?


    You don't even know my father!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    and he was only defending himself FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad:


  • #45
    Rubik.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭Rubik.


    skelliser wrote: »
    I was waiting for this argrument, imo it has nothing to do with Brannigan. i dont see the thousands of ciminals Brannigan dealt with looking for redress or compensation.

    That wasn't my point. This mythical time in the past where everything was rosy never existed. The same mentality that allowed Lugs & Co. act above the law, turning a blind eye..etc, led to the acceptance of institutions like those industrial schools.


  • #46
    DublinWriter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    Paparazzo wrote: »
    Lugs Brannigan is no better than the scumbags that roam the streets today. He just got paid for beating up people.
    Quite harsh.

    People tend to forget that Dublin of the 1940's and 1950's was a pretty violent place awash with gang-warfare and Lugs' own particular brand of 'Restorative Justice' kept many a young boy out of an Irish religious penal system all too ready to abuse them both physically and mentally.


  • #47
    D.R cowboy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭D.R cowboy


    DublinWriter wrote: »
    Quite harsh.

    Lugs' own particular brand of 'Restorative Justice' kept many a young boy out of an Irish religious penal system all too ready to abuse them both physically and mentally.

    Best post I've seen in a long time!!


  • #48
    Heckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,383 ✭✭✭Heckler


    Whatever about the pros and cons of Lugs Brannigan there is a strong case for the Garda being allowed to use necessary force and not being afraid of being hauled up before an enquiry. Everyones heard of the anecodotal storys of guards letting fights run their course before intervening. You wouldn't see it in any country with an armed police force. Recently back from the states and the police there are all big, physically fit, armed and intimidating without being scary. You know not to **** with them. Here it's getting better but nowhere near a high enough standard. The scumbags have no fear of them. Obviously the judical system has a lot to do with this as well.


  • #49
    Paparazzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,395 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    DublinWriter wrote: »
    Quite harsh.

    People tend to forget that Dublin of the 1940's and 1950's was a pretty violent place awash with gang-warfare and Lugs' own particular brand of 'Restorative Justice' kept many a young boy out of an Irish religious penal system all too ready to abuse them both physically and mentally.

    I've spoken to a few people that were around back in lug's day. He didn't go around like Batman beating up criminals and handing out justice. If he didn't like the look of you, you got thumped. No different to the local scumbag that's constantly involved in fights


  • #50
    moonpurple
    Closed Accounts Posts: 852 ✭✭✭moonpurple


    in reply to OP

    here is the problem with the lugs brannigan approach
    also wiki 'letterfrack'

    open thornton hall and store them:pac:

    Nicky Kelly

    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Nicky Kelly is an Irish Labour party politician from Arklow in County Wicklow. In the 1980s he achieved fame throughout Ireland after he had been sentenced, in 1978, to 12 years in prison for his alleged part in theSallins train robbery. The ensuing campaign to release him became a symbol of the 1980s with 'Free Nicky Kelly' graffiti posted throughout the country. The evidence of torture committed against him and his two co-accused, Osgur Breatnach and Brian McNally, galvanized a campaign for his release. There was a dedication to him in the 1983 Planxty album, Words and Music.
    In 1984 Kelly was eventually released on "humanitarian grounds". He received a presidential pardon in 1992, along with over £1 million as compensation following campaigns by Amnesty and the ICCL.
    He was born Edward Noel Kelly from Graiguenamanagh, County Kilkenny, he joined Official Sinn Fein leaving it to join the new Irish Republican Socialist Party in 1974. [1]
    Kelly was elected to Arklow Town Council and for Wicklow County Council in 1999.[2] in 2001 he joined the Labour party.[3]
    He stood unsuccessfully as a Labour party candidate for the Wicklow constituency in the 2007 general election.[4]
    In 2008 he was elected mayor of Arklow.[5]
    URL="http://www.boards.ie/w/index.php?title=Nicky_Kelly&action=edit&section=1"]edit[/URLReferences


  • #51
    thebigbiffo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭thebigbiffo


    without getting into too much details - a scumbag i know keyed a few cars outside a neighbours house a few years back which was the final straw in a fairly long list offences against this family he'd taken a grudge against - for no logical reason.

    lets just say he was paid a visit by some 'out-of-towners', his dad opened the door and invited them in. it didn't get too violent or nasty but the threat of physical harm in the future worked a charm and this guy never bother these people again.

    long story short - where there's not enough evidence for court, but you know for certain who the offender is, go (reasonably) vigilante. sometimes there's no other options in dealing with these b'astards


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  • #52
    D.R cowboy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭D.R cowboy


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hkb2Q-jG86A

    Lugs russian brothers in action


  • #53
    the_syco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,310 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    D.R cowboy wrote: »
    well I dont mind them breaking the law off some scumbags head:D

    You wont have to worry if you have done nothing wrong;)
    Know many scumbag cops? Any of them dislike you? If so, I'm sure they'll find something that you did "wrong".


  • #54
    General Zod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭General Zod


    D.R cowboy wrote: »
    I was chatting to the old man today, some scumbag keyed his new car today outside the office. when they checked the CCTV it was a local scumbag well know by the garda , the scumbag was off his head, at one stage during the incident the guy was lying on top of the car. My father rung the garda and they came straight away , and they recognised the well know scumbag. two hours later the garda arrived with the scumbag pissing himself and spitting , they made him apologies and said they were happy to leave him with my father for a few hours , but my father said he needed a few slaps to learn the lesson and told them to arrest him even thought he will get away as he has hundreds of convictions


    I think its time we brought back the lugs brannigan school of thought;)


    None of this is happened, OP is a Gimmick account spawning from the recent TO'C thread.


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