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  • #32
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,305 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Cybele wrote: »
    Wow, Some of you guys in AH seem to REALLY have transexuals on the brain lately! :D

    That thought crossed my mind on the last transsexual thread.

    Personally, I'd find it awkward. Don't have much of a clue about it, tbh.

    I eagerly await the "pc brigade, pinko shirt wearing, do gooder, liberal, homosexual" agenda.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #33
    K-9
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    Midnight_EG wrote: »
    See the last post on the first page.

    I'm on the first page.

    Get with it, will ya?

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #34
    Davidius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,893 ✭✭✭Davidius


    I'd like to have the option of having kids some day so no.


  • #35
    laugh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭laugh


    Davidius wrote: »
    I'd like to have the option of having kids some day so no.

    "What do you mean your womb doesn't work? I'm dumping you!"


  • #36
    Links234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    oppenheimer1 wrote: »
    What would be more interesting to know is that post-op would you withhold information regarding your transsexuality from a romantic partner. If so how long would you withhold it and why?

    why do you think people should have to disclose something incredibly personal to a potential partner?

    some guys might be incredibly shocked and run a mile if they found out the woman they're dating had an abortion, or if they had more previous sexual partners than he was comfortable with, or many other things. these are details that women can keep to themselves if they want

    tell me, would you disclose every personal and medical detail to a potential partner? if not, why would you withhold information?


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  • #37
    Davidius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,893 ✭✭✭Davidius


    laugh wrote: »
    "What do you mean your womb doesn't work? I'm dumping you!"
    The world is cruel.


  • #38
    Rabies
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,257 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    laugh wrote: »
    "What do you mean your womb doesn't work? I'm dumping you!"

    "You chopped you knob off :eek:
    Fecking nutter!! Get away from me!"

    /bleaches body and washes with wire brush.

    Something like the above I think is more likely.


  • #39
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Links234 wrote: »
    why do you think people should have to disclose incredibly personal to a potential partner?

    some guys might be incredibly shocked and run a mile if they found out the woman they're dating had an abortion, or if they had more previous sexual partners than he was comfortable with, or many other things. these are details that women can keep to themselves if they want

    tell me, would you disclose every personal and medical detail to a potential partner? if not, why would you withhold information?

    At some point, you'd have to tell them. At some point in every relationship that turns long term or looks like it's going to, it's normal that both people want to know everything about the other person.

    If the bond is strong & the couple are both mature enough, pretty much nothing can rock the relationship, but not every realtionship or person is strong enough to handle the truths about their partners lives before them.

    If that's the case, then it's better that they move on. Relationships have to be based on trust, otherwise they can't move on.


  • #40
    laugh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭laugh


    Rabies wrote: »
    "You chopped you knob off :eek:
    Fecking nutter!! Get away from me!"

    /bleaches body and washes with wire brush.

    Something like the above I think is more likely.

    What I meant is that any girl can find out that she cannot conceive.


  • #41
    Links234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    starbelgrade wrote: »
    At some point, you'd have to tell them. At some point in every relationship that turns long term or looks like it's going to, it's normal that both people want to know everything about the other person.

    If the bond is strong & the couple are both mature enough, pretty much nothing can rock the relationship, but not every realtionship or person is strong enough to handle the truths about their partners lives before them.

    If that's the case, then it's better that they move on. Relationships have to be based on trust, otherwise they can't move on.

    sure, I agree with you, I'm just pointing out that there's plenty of things that people wouldn't be upfront about, and it's hypocritical to hold transgender people to a higher standard.

    I would be pretty upfront about being trans, but that's not my point here. there's lots of things people keep to themselves at first, and only tell their partners about when they're comfortable with them


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  • #42
    Midnight_EG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,849 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    Links234 wrote: »
    sure, I agree with you, I'm just pointing out that there's plenty of things that people wouldn't be upfront about, and it's hypocritical to hold transgender people to a higher standard.

    I would be pretty upfront about being trans, but that's not my point here. there's lots of things people keep to themselves at first, and only tell their partners about when they're comfortable with them

    I'll try putting it into a perspective you can't argue with, nor disagree with.


    If a post-op woman was to tell her boyfriend she was a man before, the man would think he initially fell for a guy, so would be thinking it was 'gay' of him.


    Simplest terms really.


  • #43
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Links234 wrote: »
    sure, I agree with you, I'm just pointing out that there's plenty of things that people wouldn't be upfront about, and it's hypocritical to hold transgender people to a higher standard.

    I agree totally.
    Links234 wrote: »
    I would be pretty upfront about being trans, but that's not my point here. there's lots of things people keep to themselves at first, and only tell their partners about when they're comfortable with them

    Again, I agree. If most couples were to "tell all" upfront, there'd be very few couples in the world!


  • #44
    Hank_Jones
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    Midnight_EG wrote: »
    Sorry Grandpa!

    :pac:

    There you go with that smart mouth! Lisa, run outside and cut me a switch.


  • #45
    Nebit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭Nebit


    Personally i dont think i could ever date a transsexual.

    Now dont get me wrong i understand that a transsexuals were born in the wrong body and ultimately are, in mind a man or a woman (whoever they feel like). The struggle these people go through and the thought of being trapped in a body that is not yours is beyond my contemplation. I would openly except any friend or family who was to date a trannsexual but honestly i dont think i could. However i have never been faced with such a choice.


  • #46
    Links234
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    Midnight_EG wrote: »
    If a post-op woman was to tell her boyfriend she was a man before, the man would think he initially fell for a guy, so would be thinking it was 'gay' of him.

    But she's still a woman, and he would have fell for a woman, so it wouldn't be gay, and if he thought it was, then he probably has some insecurities about his sexuality and might have some internalised homophobia.


  • #47
    K-9
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    Links234 wrote: »
    sure, I agree with you, I'm just pointing out that there's plenty of things that people wouldn't be upfront about, and it's hypocritical to hold transgender people to a higher standard.

    I would be pretty upfront about being trans, but that's not my point here. there's lots of things people keep to themselves at first, and only tell their partners about when they're comfortable with them

    I can see what you mean. Manys a single parent who wouldn't mention their child because they feel they would be judged about it. Wouldn't bother me one bit, as a separated Dad, but there is a stigma to it.

    The vociferous minority over come the silent majority IMO. I suppose it is something you have to over come too.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #48
    Midnight_EG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,849 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    Links234 wrote: »
    But she's still a woman, and he would have fell for a woman, so it wouldn't be gay, and if he thought it was, then he probably has some insecurities about his sexuality and might have some internalised homophobia.

    Doesn't matter, I'm not even gonna bother arguing with somebody who can't see both sides of the argument.


  • #49
    epgc3fyqirnbsx
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    If it was good enough for them :D

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixqbc7X2NQY


  • #50
    Mr Benevolent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,433 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    You might want to rephrase the question to:

    'Would you as a heterosexual male date a gay man who's now a gay man with obviously fake female bits?'


  • #51
    Nebit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭Nebit


    Confab wrote: »
    You might want to rephrase the question to:

    'Would you date a gay man who's now a gay man with grafted-on female bits?'

    you fail to realise that these people although born with a male body are in fact of a female mind and therefore are NOT gay.


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  • #52
    oppenheimer1
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    starbelgrade wrote: »
    At some point, you'd have to tell them. At some point in every relationship that turns long term or looks like it's going to, it's normal that both people want to know everything about the other person.

    If the bond is strong & the couple are both mature enough, pretty much nothing can rock the relationship, but not every realtionship or person is strong enough to handle the truths about their partners lives before them.

    If that's the case, then it's better that they move on. Relationships have to be based on trust, otherwise they can't move on.

    The thing is that someones transsexuality would become apparent very early on in the relationship. Any relationship I've ever been in I have always tried early on to find out lots about the girl, their background, growing up, school, college etc. A trans person would have to lie or not disclose any of that kind of stuff in order to keep their transition secret. Not disclosing for a one night stand would be because the transgendered person would fear rejection.


  • #53
    oppenheimer1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    Confab wrote: »
    You might want to rephrase the question to:

    'Would you as a heterosexual male date a gay man who's now a gay man with obviously fake female bits?'

    Thats a loaded question, I couldn't possibly change it to that:pac:


  • #54
    Links234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    Midnight_EG wrote: »
    Doesn't matter, I'm not even gonna bother arguing with somebody who can't see both sides of the argument.

    You're the one who opened with a challenge that I couldn't argue or disagree, so I rose to that challenge


  • #55
    K-9
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    Michael Damp Piccolo wrote: »
    If it was good enough for them :D

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixqbc7X2NQY

    Love that song. Defines the 70's for me along with T. Rex.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #56
    storm2811
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    Confab wrote: »
    You might want to rephrase the question to:

    'Would you as a heterosexual male date a gay man who's now a gay man with obviously fake female bits?'


    How are the obviously fake?
    Links is a lesbian, and was never really a "straight man" as you'd put it.
    (Links, sorry if you think I'm speaking on your behalf,just using an example)

    Personally though I'd like to have children someday so I don't know really.


  • #57
    oppenheimer1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    K-9 wrote: »
    I can see what you mean. Manys a single parent who wouldn't mention their child because they feel they would be judged about it. Wouldn't bother me one bit, as a separated Dad, but there is a stigma to it.

    The vociferous minority over come the silent majority IMO. I suppose it is something you have to over come too.

    Its hardly a vociferous minority when almost 80% of those polled on a site with quite a liberal viewpoint disagree.


  • #58
    Links234
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    storm2811 wrote: »
    (Links, sorry if you think I'm speaking on your behalf,just using an example)

    no, that's fair, I wasn't even gonna give that person a response though


  • #59
    Links234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    also, LOL at the idea of After Hours being "open minded" or "liberal" :pac: roflmao, good one :D:D


  • #60
    K-9
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    oppenheimer1 wrote: »
    Its hardly a vociferous minority when almost 80% of those polled on a site with quite a liberal viewpoint disagree.

    Yes, but 20/30 years ago, single parents were still frowned upon. Now they aren't, but a vociferous minority still do frown upon them or see them as Social Welfare spongers. The stigma is still there, 20/30 years later where a single parent finds it hard to say to a guy on a night out, I'm a single parent, all these years later.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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  • #61
    Mr Benevolent
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    Nebit wrote: »
    you fail to realise that these people although born with a male body are in fact of a female mind and therefore are NOT gay.

    You what? Female mind? The female brain is no different to the male brain, it's upbringing, sexual organs and hormones that distinguishes us. Males (or rather, humans with testicles) get pumped full of testosterone at puberty. Once that happens they're male. You can bolt on (or lop off) as much as you want but it ain't gonna make them a fully fledged, oestrogen producing, uterus owning genuine woman. Please note I'm not calling it an abomination or anything of the sort, just a severe variant of 'the grass is greener on the other side' syndrome.

    On a side note, why do a fair percentage of gay men have higher pitched voices and a lisp? Always strikes me as an affectation rather than a genuine way of speaking, especially the lisp.


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