Would you date...

oppenheimer1

a post-op transsexual as their new gender? This is following on from the previous threads on similar topics where some people have strong views on the tpic. I personally could never as a straight male knowingly date a male-to-female transsexual, and I assume that would be the same for most people. Indeed if I found out "at the end of the night" the truth about one of these people I would feel I had been tricked/conned.

So boards being home of the open-minded it seems, would you ever consider a romantic relationship with a transsexual?

starbelgrade

I've seen the IT Crowd. I know how it ends.

Hank_Jones

I have nothing against people dating them, but I wouldn't want to personally as I think I want to have kids at some stage and a post-op transexual wouldn't be able to provide that in a relationship.

Wolfe Tone

Yeah I would. Only sticking point would be having kids.

Jeboa Safari

Couldn't do it

4zn76tysfajdxp

starbelgrade wrote: »

I've seen the IT Crowd. I know how it ends.

In hilarity!

Cybele

Wow, Some of you guys in AH seem to REALLY have transexuals on the brain lately!

piby

I consider myself very liberal and open-minded but if I'm being honest I don't think I'd be comfortable dating a post-op. I mean each to his/her own but I would find any sort of relationship would be very difficult psychologically on my part. If you want a concrete answer as to why it's one of the few things I can't really articulate my reasoning for other than to say that's just how I feel.

oppenheimer1

With hormone and genital reconstruction surgery it could possibly be very difficult to tell, especially for someone who might not be that experienced. Would you consider someone not being immediately forthcoming about their transsexuality being dishonest? I know I would.

oppenheimer1

Cybele wrote: »

Wow, Some of you guys in AH seem to REALLY have transexuals on the brain lately!

Its an interesting topic thats been in the news recently.

starbelgrade

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

With hormone and genital reconstruction surgery it could possibly be very difficult to tell, especially for someone who might not be that experienced. Would you consider someone not being immediately forthcoming about their transsexuality being dishonest? I know I would.

It was a bit of a sticking point for Hayley & Roy for a while, but it all worked out fine in the end.

Cybele

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

With hormone and genital reconstruction surgery it could possibly be very difficult to tell, especially for someone who might not be that experienced. Would you consider someone not being immediately forthcoming about their transsexuality being dishonest? I know I would.

It is private medical history so most would not discuss it on a first date, some may never release that information and then some may only inform their lover if the relationship became serious.

Mrmoe

It wouldn't bother me too much, I would have handups about it but I know a sure fire way to switch my brain off to compensate.;)

ElaElaElano

starbelgrade wrote: »

It was a bit of a sticking point for Hayley

Or lack thereof.

Sorry.

Midnight_EG

It's just fucking weird tbh.

brummytom

No. No way

bonerm

Nope.

You'd still dating a dude no matter what he believes about himself or what he's done to his old chap.

bonerm

Nope.

You'd still be dating a dude, no matter what he now believes about himself or what he's done to his old chap.

BluesBerry

Roy Cropper seems to be doing ok with it

Links234

yes, I would

some of the most beautiful, attractive women I've seen happen to be transgender

I bet even the OP's jaw would drop at the sight of someone like Jamie Clayton, or any other beautiful transwoman

Midnight_EG

Links234 wrote: »

yes, I would

some of the most beautiful, attractive women I've seen happen to be transgender

I bet even the OP's jaw would drop at the sight of someone like Jamie Clayton, or any other beautiful transwoman

^ Chick had a dick dude.

Links234

do NOT call me dude :mad:

Midnight_EG

Links234 wrote: »

do NOT call me dude :mad:

Chick had a dick, dudette.

Links234

so yes, she had a dick, what's your point?

Midnight_EG

Links234 wrote: »

so yes, she had a dick, what's your point?

Just sayin', yo.

storm2811

Maybe,all depends.

Links234

Midnight_EG wrote: »

Just sayin', yo.

well it wouldn't bother me. would it bother you?

Midnight_EG

Links234 wrote: »

well it wouldn't bother me. would it bother you?

See the last post on the first page.

Hank_Jones

Midnight_EG wrote: »

Just sayin', yo.

Why are you using that language?

Speak like a human being.

Kids these days, etc, etc.

Midnight_EG

Hank_Jones wrote: »

Why are you using that language?

Speak like a human being.

Kids these days, etc, etc.

Sorry Grandpa!



:pac:

oppenheimer1

Links234 wrote: »

well it wouldn't bother me. would it bother you?

Well its hardly going to bother you considering (I gather) you're a pre-op transsexual. I would be more surprised if it did bother you.

What would be more interesting to know is that post-op would you withhold information regarding your transsexuality from a romantic partner. If so how long would you withhold it and why?

K-9

Cybele wrote: »

Wow, Some of you guys in AH seem to REALLY have transexuals on the brain lately!

That thought crossed my mind on the last transsexual thread.

Personally, I'd find it awkward. Don't have much of a clue about it, tbh.

I eagerly await the "pc brigade, pinko shirt wearing, do gooder, liberal, homosexual" agenda.

K-9

Midnight_EG wrote: »

See the last post on the first page.

I'm on the first page.

Get with it, will ya?

Davidius

I'd like to have the option of having kids some day so no.

laugh

Davidius wrote: »

I'd like to have the option of having kids some day so no.

"What do you mean your womb doesn't work? I'm dumping you!"

Links234

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

What would be more interesting to know is that post-op would you withhold information regarding your transsexuality from a romantic partner. If so how long would you withhold it and why?

why do you think people should have to disclose something incredibly personal to a potential partner?

some guys might be incredibly shocked and run a mile if they found out the woman they're dating had an abortion, or if they had more previous sexual partners than he was comfortable with, or many other things. these are details that women can keep to themselves if they want

tell me, would you disclose every personal and medical detail to a potential partner? if not, why would you withhold information?

Davidius

laugh wrote: »

"What do you mean your womb doesn't work? I'm dumping you!"

The world is cruel.

Rabies

laugh wrote: »

"What do you mean your womb doesn't work? I'm dumping you!"

"You chopped you knob off :eek:
Fecking nutter!! Get away from me!"

/bleaches body and washes with wire brush.

Something like the above I think is more likely.

starbelgrade

Links234 wrote: »

why do you think people should have to disclose incredibly personal to a potential partner?

some guys might be incredibly shocked and run a mile if they found out the woman they're dating had an abortion, or if they had more previous sexual partners than he was comfortable with, or many other things. these are details that women can keep to themselves if they want

tell me, would you disclose every personal and medical detail to a potential partner? if not, why would you withhold information?

At some point, you'd have to tell them. At some point in every relationship that turns long term or looks like it's going to, it's normal that both people want to know everything about the other person.

If the bond is strong & the couple are both mature enough, pretty much nothing can rock the relationship, but not every realtionship or person is strong enough to handle the truths about their partners lives before them.

If that's the case, then it's better that they move on. Relationships have to be based on trust, otherwise they can't move on.

laugh

Rabies wrote: »

"You chopped you knob off :eek:
Fecking nutter!! Get away from me!"

/bleaches body and washes with wire brush.

Something like the above I think is more likely.

What I meant is that any girl can find out that she cannot conceive.

Links234

starbelgrade wrote: »

At some point, you'd have to tell them. At some point in every relationship that turns long term or looks like it's going to, it's normal that both people want to know everything about the other person.

If the bond is strong & the couple are both mature enough, pretty much nothing can rock the relationship, but not every realtionship or person is strong enough to handle the truths about their partners lives before them.

If that's the case, then it's better that they move on. Relationships have to be based on trust, otherwise they can't move on.

sure, I agree with you, I'm just pointing out that there's plenty of things that people wouldn't be upfront about, and it's hypocritical to hold transgender people to a higher standard.

I would be pretty upfront about being trans, but that's not my point here. there's lots of things people keep to themselves at first, and only tell their partners about when they're comfortable with them

Midnight_EG

Links234 wrote: »

sure, I agree with you, I'm just pointing out that there's plenty of things that people wouldn't be upfront about, and it's hypocritical to hold transgender people to a higher standard.

I would be pretty upfront about being trans, but that's not my point here. there's lots of things people keep to themselves at first, and only tell their partners about when they're comfortable with them

I'll try putting it into a perspective you can't argue with, nor disagree with.


If a post-op woman was to tell her boyfriend she was a man before, the man would think he initially fell for a guy, so would be thinking it was 'gay' of him.


Simplest terms really.

starbelgrade

Links234 wrote: »

sure, I agree with you, I'm just pointing out that there's plenty of things that people wouldn't be upfront about, and it's hypocritical to hold transgender people to a higher standard.

I agree totally.

Links234 wrote: »

I would be pretty upfront about being trans, but that's not my point here. there's lots of things people keep to themselves at first, and only tell their partners about when they're comfortable with them

Again, I agree. If most couples were to "tell all" upfront, there'd be very few couples in the world!

Hank_Jones

Midnight_EG wrote: »

Sorry Grandpa!

:pac:

There you go with that smart mouth! Lisa, run outside and cut me a switch.

Nebit

Personally i dont think i could ever date a transsexual.

Now dont get me wrong i understand that a transsexuals were born in the wrong body and ultimately are, in mind a man or a woman (whoever they feel like). The struggle these people go through and the thought of being trapped in a body that is not yours is beyond my contemplation. I would openly except any friend or family who was to date a trannsexual but honestly i dont think i could. However i have never been faced with such a choice.

Links234

Midnight_EG wrote: »

If a post-op woman was to tell her boyfriend she was a man before, the man would think he initially fell for a guy, so would be thinking it was 'gay' of him.

But she's still a woman, and he would have fell for a woman, so it wouldn't be gay, and if he thought it was, then he probably has some insecurities about his sexuality and might have some internalised homophobia.

K-9

Links234 wrote: »

sure, I agree with you, I'm just pointing out that there's plenty of things that people wouldn't be upfront about, and it's hypocritical to hold transgender people to a higher standard.

I would be pretty upfront about being trans, but that's not my point here. there's lots of things people keep to themselves at first, and only tell their partners about when they're comfortable with them

I can see what you mean. Manys a single parent who wouldn't mention their child because they feel they would be judged about it. Wouldn't bother me one bit, as a separated Dad, but there is a stigma to it.

The vociferous minority over come the silent majority IMO. I suppose it is something you have to over come too.

Midnight_EG

Links234 wrote: »

But she's still a woman, and he would have fell for a woman, so it wouldn't be gay, and if he thought it was, then he probably has some insecurities about his sexuality and might have some internalised homophobia.

Doesn't matter, I'm not even gonna bother arguing with somebody who can't see both sides of the argument.

epgc3fyqirnbsx

If it was good enough for them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixqbc7X2NQY

Mr Benevolent

You might want to rephrase the question to:

'Would you as a heterosexual male date a gay man who's now a gay man with obviously fake female bits?'

Nebit

Confab wrote: »

You might want to rephrase the question to:

'Would you date a gay man who's now a gay man with grafted-on female bits?'

you fail to realise that these people although born with a male body are in fact of a female mind and therefore are NOT gay.