Nuke Tips

shawpower · 27-07-2010 12:29PM

Creasy_bear wrote: »

then don't go for the nuke on maps you can't spawn trap on

People have gotten nukes on all sorts of maps, and it's possible to spawn trap on them all. But if the enemy are indoors when the airsupport comes it, it's hard to get enough kills to get a spawn trap going. Which is why I thought having Danger Close on would help in this. I still haven't heard any reason not to assume this is still correct. :shrugs:

Creasy_bear · 27-07-2010 12:31PM

shawpower wrote: »

Yeah, that's what I was wondering. Do you lose the benefit of Stopping power too much with Hardline? I'd say you might be better going for 3 classes, and have one with Stopping power. When you get to 6 kills, switch to hardline and get your harriers straight away. Then switch to Danger Close to call them in.

I guess there are two main questions.

1. Is it actually worth the nuisance of missing out on extra claymores or your secondary? I'm not sure.

2. How much benefit is Danger Close pro on Air Support. Presuming they don't get shot down, how would a like for like comparison work out over a sample of 10 exampes each? Will it nett you 0-1-2 kills through the harrier & Chopper/AC? If so, then it's questionable whether it's worth the hassle/risk. If it gets you 3-4-5 kills, then I'd say it's a very worthwhile strategy. The extra blast radius on the AC130 suggests you can get a good few, but without having tried it I'm just guessing.

ohh ffs lol...........why don't you put in a cold-blooded class while youre at it in case they get a uav/air support of their own .

Putting waaaaaay to much thought into it

Shammy · 27-07-2010 12:31PM

Leeg17 wrote: »

I might be picking this up wrong. But I meant get a 6th kill, then switch to hardline, and will it give you harriers or not ? Even though your 1-6th kill was with it off.

Sorry i miss read your post, doing it that way will not give you harriers .

Shammy · 27-07-2010 12:33PM

shawpower wrote: »

Sounds like a plan. Although I'm not sure I'll be telling you I'm trying for it. Prefer to try and fail in silence than have that expectation on me.

Its a team game that you'll be playing yes ? At least if we know your going for it we can help , if we dont know you'll have to listen to me B!tch about not capping flags

Creasy_bear · 27-07-2010 12:36PM

shawpower wrote: »

Sounds like a plan. Although I'm not sure I'll be telling you I'm trying for it. Prefer to try and fail in silence than have that expectation on me.

Get the nuke on youre own ......personally i'd get no satisfaction out of getting a nuke like that , you may as well boost :pac:

Creasy_bear · 27-07-2010 12:38PM

shawpower wrote: »

People have gotten nukes on all sorts of maps, and it's possible to spawn trap on them all. But if the enemy are indoors when the airsupport comes it, it's hard to get enough kills to get a spawn trap going. Which is why I thought having Danger Close on would help in this. I still haven't heard any reason not to assume this is still correct. :shrugs:

yes , without danger close . Watch any amount of nuke vids on youtube where they spawn trap without it

Shammy · 27-07-2010 12:42PM

Creasy_bear wrote: »

Get the nuke on youre own ......personally i'd get no satisfaction out of getting a nuke like that , you may as well boost :pac:

Apples and oranges , personally if your on a TEAM and playing an objective game i think its selfish if one gets a nuke and doesnt bother to tell anyone , at least if we know then we have 2 objectives.

Mr. Manager · 27-07-2010 12:45PM

+1 on Danger Close Pro. I have a friend who regularly gets Nukes and uses DCP. His K/D ratio is around 4.08 - swears by it.

I was playing last night with breadmonkey and was on somewhere between 22-0 and 24-0, in the spawn on Rundown. Running around going bananas. Just as I killed this guy I thought in my head, "this is it!" but as I was running to kill his other team mate I ran into his martydom

Was gutted to say the least.

Will be going again tonight to get it!

shay · 27-07-2010 12:46PM

Shammy wrote: »

Apples and oranges , personally if your on a TEAM and playing an objective game i think its selfish if one gets a nuke and doesnt bother to tell anyone , at least if we know then we have 2 objectives.

this throws up a good point.

Q: How many of ye who got nukes did so with the assistance of their team (and I don't mean boosting) - what I do mean in a team game? Honest answers only..

Creasy_bear · 27-07-2010 12:48PM

shay wrote: »

this throws up a good point.

Q: How many of ye who got nukes did so with the assistance of their team (and I don't mean boosting) - what I do mean in a team game? Honest answers only..

zero ........I wouldnt help anyone get one either :cool:

krudler · 27-07-2010 12:49PM

I find Wasteland the easiest map to get a nuke on , 3 of the 4 I have were gotten on that. If you have a mic then just tell your team to stay where they are if you have the enemy team spawntrapped, I prefer ac-130 to gunner on that map, as once the spawn trap starts its a sure thing you wont get shot down as the guy with the anti air class will spawn among the teammates, thats where danger close may come in handy, bigger blast radius, but if say theyre spawning by the helipcopter, chances are you'll get them all anyway. Timing is everything with the ac-130, dont aim at where they are, aim at where you think they're going to be. and use everything in succession,one shot from the 150mm cannon, the rapid burst from the 75mm and then spray the place with 20mm to clean up and stragglers or new spawners, repeat, watch the multikills rack up.

If you're camping for a nuke, and lets be honest you're not going to get one rushing about with marathon and lightweight on , then on Wasteland over on the far left on the side that A and C are on is the best place, if you position yourself right with a sniper and thermal you can see over as far as the helicopter spawn point and then turn right to see the A flag area, its honestly the best place on the map as nobody can sneak up on you, stick a claymore down by where the minigun is for safety , stand flush against the hedge (coldblooded is awesome for this) and just pick off everyone who runs around those two corners.

shay · 27-07-2010 12:52PM

Fair enough, but can I ask you were they on FFA then?

As I guess it could be argued that if it was an objective based game, such as domination, if you did not contribute to capturing/protecting the flags, then you were getting assistance from your teammates insofar as they were helping your game by ensuring the other side's attention was focused on the objectives...

Shammy · 27-07-2010 12:53PM

shay wrote: »

this throws up a good point.

Q: How many of ye who got nukes did so with the assistance of their team (and I don't mean boosting) - what I do mean in a team game? Honest answers only..

I have gotten a couple of nukes , mostly on my own in random games.
A few times i have helped a team mate get a nuke in domination , knowing from the start that he was going for the nuke we took a & b and basically left him get most of the kills at B ,he did die the first time at 6 kills so we left the other team take b to slow the game down , then take it again when they got into the lead and kept changing it until he got the nuke.

shawpower · 27-07-2010 12:59PM

Creasy_bear wrote: »

ohh ffs lol...........why don't you put in a cold-blooded class while youre at it in case they get a uav/air support of their own .

Putting waaaaaay to much thought into it

That's a great idea!

Yeah, I figure that the 3 classes is probably overkill. But still think that the 2 class suggestion has merit.

I'm the kind of personality who figures out the best way of doing something, and then tries to use it. You say that's putting too much thought into it? Maybe so, but I think that if Danger Close Pro helps, then it's worth using. You think Scavenger helps more? Well that's just different strokes I guess.

But laughing off all the suggestions without any actual good reason why doesn't help much. And the post by Cereal Rapist above highlights how much it can help. I'll give it a try and let you know.

Creasy_bear · 27-07-2010 01:00PM

shay wrote: »

Fair enough, but can I ask you were they on FFA then?

As I guess it could be argued that if it was an objective based game, such as domination, if you did not contribute to capturing/protecting the flags, then you were getting assistance from your teammates insofar as they were helping your game by ensuring the other side's attention was focused on the objectives...

all on tdm .......jusy can't seem to get into domination , tried it 5/6 times and just seem to run around like an idiot . TDM is all I play really , mind you not played in ages ........lost interest

Leeg17 · 27-07-2010 01:03PM

shay wrote: »

this throws up a good point.

Q: How many of ye who got nukes did so with the assistance of their team (and I don't mean boosting) - what I do mean in a team game? Honest answers only..

I remember when I was playing with my IRL mate on Skidrow. Now we both had mics, and he had a nuke on (only got 3 before this match). Anyways he gets harriers down by A (I think. The courtyard with the boxes and high fences?). Sets them off and gets chopper. At this stage he's hopped up into the empty steel transport box thingy, the one open at both ends that people sometimes snipe from. I waited at the other end to stop people from rushing him. Got a few kills with it.

Also if I'm playing with randomers and I see a guy crouched with laptop, and we have chopper/AC then I will stay and protect him until he's left it, especially so if he's on a big streak.

Most people though are selfish, the armount of times I've died with the AC/Chopper laptop open, and I can see on the mini-map my team mates running and leaving me more prone to attack.

TL;DR : No nukes, but I've helped when getting nukes.

Magill · 27-07-2010 01:05PM

Shammy wrote: »

I have gotten a couple of nukes , mostly on my own in random games.
A few times i have helped a team mate get a nuke in domination , knowing from the start that he was going for the nuke we took a & b and basically left him get most of the kills at B ,he did die the first time at 6 kills so we left the other team take b to slow the game down , then take it again when they got into the lead and kept changing it until he got the nuke.

In fairness... thats practically boosting... i think thats how alot of people get nukes, imo its far more satisfying getting them by yourself.

Mr. Manager · 27-07-2010 01:07PM

Creasy_bear wrote: »

...you not played in ages ........lost interest

Too many nukes ehh?? :rolleyes:

Mr. Manager · 27-07-2010 01:09PM

Magill wrote: »

In fairness... thats practically boosting... i think thats how alot of people get nukes, imo its far more satisfying getting them by yourself.

It's not boosting at all. There is a reason why you have 5 other people on your team. To help you out. Getting a nuke is part of winning the game and the objective is to WIN the game. I totally agree with Shammy!

Creasy_bear · 27-07-2010 01:12PM

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

Too many nukes ehh?? :rolleyes:

ya .....nothing better than nuking noobs like yourself :rolleyes:

actually .......

don't go for nukes anymore , more to do with ever pr1ck in the game using tubes with danger close

shawpower · 27-07-2010 01:13PM

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

It's not boosting at all. There is a reason why you have 5 other people on your team. To help you out. Getting a nuke is part of winning the game and the objective is to WIN the game. I totally agree with Shammy!

yeah, I don't think you can call that boosting, although it probably isn't as good a nuke as one on your own either. You've left him to protect a flag, which is part of playing Dom. And when he's died, you've simply given the game more time. He still having to get the kills, and it's part of a team strategy so no real problem. But as I said, getting on like Shammy did in a random game on your own is a "better" achievement.

Shammy · 27-07-2010 01:20PM

Magill wrote: »

In fairness... thats practically boosting... i think thats how alot of people get nukes, imo its far more satisfying getting them by yourself.

Its a TEAM game , considering your in a "clan" i would have thought you would know something about teamwork

, i'm assuming ye have different strats for different gamodes e.g Ctf , a runner, support runner and maybe 2 support a/r's.

Mr. Manager · 27-07-2010 01:26PM

Creasy_bear wrote: »

ya .....nothing better than nuking noobs like yourself :rolleyes:

actually .......

don't go for nukes anymore , more to do with ever pr1ck in the game using tubes with danger close

No need to edit your post because you forgot to have a crack at me

shawpower · 27-07-2010 01:28PM

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

No need to edit your post because you forgot to have a crack at me

It just took him 5 minutes to think up something "funny" to say.

Mr. Manager · 27-07-2010 01:31PM

shawpower wrote: »

It just took him 5 minutes to think up something "funny" to say.

Ah give him a chance, he probably took a break to go and nuke some n00bs like me

Shammy · 27-07-2010 01:31PM

shawpower wrote: »

yeah, I don't think you can call that boosting, although it probably isn't as good a nuke as one on your own either. You've left him to protect a flag, which is part of playing Dom. And when he's died, you've simply given the game more time. He still having to get the kills, and it's part of a team strategy so no real problem. But as I said, getting on like Shammy did in a random game on your own is a "better" achievement.

I dont know i could call it a better achievement , i mean yeah its a great sensation when getting your first nuke, be it on your own or not, but its nice to see your mates see you getting one as well. At the end of the day its still down to you to get 25 kills and no one can push the trigger for you.

My favourite nuke that i got was on wasteland , domination g/w , we spawned at A , i picked the first recon class and legged it to C via graveyard , got 6 kills straight off , 2 came back , which put it up to 8, put my harriers over B got 4 kills off of that straight off , bringing on my ac130, after my harrier was finished i was up to 17 kills and the ac130 brought in my nuke.

shawpower · 27-07-2010 01:39PM

Shammy wrote: »

I dont know i could call it a better achievement , i mean yeah its a great sensation when getting your first nuke, be it on your own or not, but its nice to see your mates see you getting one as well. At the end of the day its still down to you to get 25 kills and no one can push the trigger for you.

My favourite nuke that i got was on wasteland , domination g/w , we spawned at A , i picked the first recon class and legged it to C via graveyard , got 6 kills straight off , 2 came back , which put it up to 8, put my harriers over B got 4 kills off of that straight off , bringing on my ac130, after my harrier was finished i was up to 17 kills and the ac130 brought in my nuke.

Agree that it's nice to see your mates get a nuke, and also that they have to get the kills themselves. And I'm also aware that I've not gotten a nuke, so can't comment fully. But I'd imagine that it's harder to get it on your own? Which is why I suggested it was a "better" achievement... Maybe not..

Creasy_bear · 27-07-2010 01:41PM

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

Ah give him a chance, he probably took a break to go and nuke some n00bs like me

you start a thread asking for tips on how to get a nuke then you direct smartarse comments at people because theyre able to get them

lol a real genius

Mr. Manager · 27-07-2010 01:44PM

Creasy_bear wrote: »

you start a thread asking for tips on how to get a nuke then you direct smartarse comments at people because theyre able to get them

lol a real genius

I asked for advice, not a d!ck measuring contest. Most of your posts in this thread have been completely patronising and critical of other peoples play/set-ups.

Creasy_bear · 27-07-2010 01:48PM

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

I asked for advice, not a d!ck measuring contest. Most of your posts in this thread have been completely patronising and critical of other peoples play/set-ups.

check my first post .......thats how you get a nuke . If you are worth a toss at all you can get 7 kills in a row .......look at youtube vids and just keep trying over and over , then you'll get one

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