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Airtricity 11 vs Man. Utd - **MOD NOTE POST 457**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    djpbarry wrote: »
    I doubt it - 90% of the football-following public in this country are probably completely unaware that Bohs were even playing TNS.

    but you can be damn sure everybody knows the result now. negative publicity sometimes travels faster than positive publicity. with so many bohs players in the squad, its a great chance for them to restore some pride in themselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭CiaranC


    but you can be damn sure everybody knows the result now. negative publicity sometimes travels faster than positive publicity. with so many bohs players in the squad, its a great chance for them to restore some pride in themselves.
    How is a meaningless friendly for a made-up team against Manchesters C team in front of a crowd who generally never attend football matches, at a match with no atmosphere, which is regarded at best with indifference and at worst with vitriolic hatred by the people who actually bother to watch them week in week out supposed to "restore some pride"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 359 ✭✭Tallaght Saint


    Voltwad wrote: »
    Bar/Kiosk. Don't know exactly yet, working at the rugby on Saturday too.

    Haha, I must make use of bohsman's suggestion. Could also go with 'That's a peculiar Mancurian accent you've got there'.
    I'm working in a bar, section 102. Really loking forward to it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,680 ✭✭✭Chong


    I take it that it is completely sold out at this stage, bear in my I haven't read most of the thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,881 ✭✭✭bohsman


    stovelid wrote: »
    Rgearding the argument that these games are good for converting Irish people to the LOI, I'm looking forward to the droves of Irish Villa supporters turning up in Dalyer again this weekend?

    Thats obv not going to happen but if some have a good day out and even start keeping half an eye out for Bohs results after its a start, obv the key is for the kids to have a good time so they can tell their friends and nag their parents.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,435 ✭✭✭✭redout


    Did it sellout yet ?

    Some of the tickets were priced at €100 - thats €30 more expensive than an Ireland game at the new stadium.

    Absolute madness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,435 ✭✭✭✭redout


    What 8 matches are you on about ?

    Man Utd tickets are being sold for €45, €60, €75, €85, €95 and €100.

    Its an absolute disgrace - as I pointed out already the most expensive Ireland ticket will cost €70.

    That is some difference is prices - the fai must be paying United a small fortune.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,680 ✭✭✭Chong


    redout wrote: »
    What 8 matches are you on about ?

    Man Utd tickets are being sold for €45, €60, €75, €85, €95 and €100.

    Its an absolute disgrace - as I pointed out already the most expensive Ireland ticket will cost €70.

    That is some difference is prices - the fai must be paying United a small fortune.
    But is it sold out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,435 ✭✭✭✭redout


    Cleese wrote: »
    But is it sold out?

    I dont know. That is what I just asked.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,608 ✭✭✭Spud83


    Looks like it sold out anyway. Just went onto ticketmaster and tried to buy one, and got no tickets available.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,161 ✭✭✭The Rooster


    redout wrote: »
    What 8 matches are you on about ?

    Man Utd tickets are being sold for €45, €60, €75, €85, €95 and €100.

    Its an absolute disgrace - as I pointed out already the most expensive Ireland ticket will cost €70.

    That is some difference is prices - the fai must be paying United a small fortune.

    Are the dearer tickets for the middle tier, i.e. the premium level?

    That might be the reason they are dearer than Ireland games?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,435 ✭✭✭✭redout


    Are the dearer tickets for the middle tier, i.e. the premium level?

    That might be the reason they are dearer than Ireland games?

    No thats not it.

    The FAI are charging people by area:

    If you sit around the halfway line in the lower east and west its €100

    Behind the goal is €75

    Corner flag is €85

    On the wing is €95


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,980 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    redout wrote: »

    That is some difference is prices - the fai must be paying United a small fortune.

    Small fortune isn't the word from what I heard, more like a crazy stupid amount of money coming from a cash scrapped organisation, the logic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,104 ✭✭✭✭djpbarry


    Small fortune isn't the word from what I heard, more like a crazy stupid amount of money coming from a cash scrapped organisation, the logic.
    But they know they'll easily get it back in gate receipts and make a tidy profit to boot. Getting Utd in and marketing the hell out of the game will guarantee a sell-out in this country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,255 ✭✭✭anonymous_joe


    CiaranC wrote: »
    The Irish "football fan" must be the most confused/confusing creature on earth.
    You need to get over it lads.

    I love football, I'm not a fan of Irish football really, but I'll pay it the odd bit of attention. More than I would Welsh football mar shampla.
    djpbarry wrote: »
    But most people don't - they simply don't care and the general lack of coverage in the media is indicative of this. Of course, when Juve come to town it'll be a different story altogether.
    I'm certainly not disagreeing with that - it was an utterly embarrassing result.

    Dunno about a general lack of coverage. I read the Irish Times most days, and they always carry the results from LoI football.

    The Juve thing is of course going to heighten interest. Hell, Anderlecht would have too. Most people in this country don't look at domestic football, and unless fans get to see something which suggest there is quality in the league, they'll probably not be paying much attention.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,940 ✭✭✭dubmick


    how come there was only two prices on the FAI ticket site? 45 and 60 euro


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Most people in this country don't look at domestic football, and unless fans get to see something which suggest there is quality in the league, they'll probably not be paying much attention.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,980 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    Most people in this country don't look at domestic football, and unless fans get to see something which suggest there is quality in the league, they'll probably not be paying much attention.

    Aw the famous line. Quality comes at a price, clubs don't have the money because clubs don't have enough fans.

    I'd say the thousands of Polish who attend lower tier matches in Poland every week go for quality, no, no they don't, they go because it's their local club, it's about being part of a club. Supporting a football club is not just watching the match, it's about the pride and passion, being involved in the club, etc...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    Aw the famous line. Quality comes at a price, clubs don't have the money because clubs don't have enough fans.

    I'd say the thousands of Polish who attend lower tier matches in Poland every week go for quality, no, no they don't, they go because it's their local club, it's about being part of a club. Supporting a football club is not just watching the match, it's about the pride and passion, being involved in the club, etc...

    poland is hardly a good example when they have a population of not far off 40 million. if we had that population here, im pretty sure we would see similar attendances and perhaps a stronger league than theirs, they are not exactly 10 times stronger than us.

    ireland just cannot sustain professional club games here due to us being a huge sorting nation, for a small population. we have 3 other huge sports apart from soccer, which is unheard off for a country as small as ours.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid



    ireland just cannot sustain professional club games here due to us being a huge sorting nation, for a small population. we have 3 other huge sports apart from soccer, which is unheard off for a country as small as ours.

    I don't think we can sustain one either. That's because tens of thousands of people here travel to England every week to watch games and many hudnreds of thousands more watch on the TV.

    Don't blame it on our population: the fact is that we don't offer football as good as the richest league in the world on our doorstep.

    Kinda like saying you've no choice but to fuck your neighbour's wife because she's better looking than the woman you married.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭CiaranC


    stovelid wrote: »
    Kinda like saying you've no choice but to fuck your neighbour's wife because she's better looking than the woman you married.
    And the award for best barstooler analogy of the week goes to....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,060 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    every week go for quality

    Unfortunately some people just like to admire greatness or follow suit. I started watching LOI 4 years ago as it was on my doorstep and i really enjoy it. Still watch and support a team in the premiership
    Supporting a football club is not just watching the match, it's about the pride and passion, being involved in the club, etc...

    This happens with a GAA club


    You cant win either way with this argument....why it goes on and on baffles me. Its a pity we dont have bigger soccer clubs nowadays in Ireland to draw attention away from England and other countries. We have the GAA for our local rivalry passion etc which seems to be more than enough for alot of people. I for one would love if soccer was bigger here at a national level, as we cant represent GAA at a national level against lots of countries...plus in my opinion I think its a better game.

    Both sides of this argument can do and should do no more than accept it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    poland is hardly a good example when they have a population of not far off 40 million. if we had that population here, im pretty sure we would see similar attendances and perhaps a stronger league than theirs, they are not exactly 10 times stronger than us.

    ireland just cannot sustain professional club games here due to us being a huge sorting nation, for a small population. we have 3 other huge sports apart from soccer, which is unheard off for a country as small as ours.

    Norway has an identical population to us and are able to sustain a professional league.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,104 ✭✭✭✭djpbarry


    ireland just cannot sustain professional club games here due to us being a huge sorting nation, for a small population. we have 3 other huge sports apart from soccer, which is unheard off for a country as small as ours.
    We do, yet competitive international soccer matches attract up to 70,000 spectators. If all those people attended LOI games on a regular basis (which would cost them far less per game and would be a damn site more entertaining than Ireland v Montenegro, for example), we’d be laughing.
    stovelid wrote: »
    I don't think we can sustain one either. That's because tens of thousands of people here travel to England every week to watch games and many hudnreds of thousands more watch on the TV.
    Potentially, we can sustain a professional league in this country. In fact, I would go so far as to say that given the number of football fans in this country and numbers who attend internationals, we should be able to sustain a professional league. But realistically, at present, no, we can’t.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,054 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    One issue that's glossed over by the majority of pro-LoI supporters - not everybody has a local club in Ireland, and it's a problem that's exacerbated by GAA tribal lines. If I lived in Dundalk, Monaghan or Athlone, I'd be a lot more inclined to follow LoI. But as it is, there's not much difference to me between picking Man United over Monaghan, a county who would be rivals in GAA. Even within counties with a soccer team, there are still parochial rivalries between, say, urban and rural. LoI clubs also haven't been good at being inclusive and reaching out to communities beyond their immediate surroundings

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    Norway has an identical population to us and are able to sustain a professional league.

    they aint exactly kings at Gaa and Rugby though are they? soccer is the 4th most popular spectator sport in this country, it is number one in most others.

    and as re the other point about us having a huge following of our national team, no we dont. in the once off games like the frances and italys, maybe yes, but our average attendance at qualifiers in the old lansdowne was 33,000. we do have alot of fair weather fans, but that is the same in every sport and every country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,104 ✭✭✭✭djpbarry


    and as re the other point about us having a huge following of our national team, no we dont.
    Yeah, we do. No soccer match at Croke Park has so far attracted less than 50,000 people, competitive or otherwise.
    in the once off games like the frances and italys, maybe yes, but our average attendance at qualifiers in the old lansdowne was 33,000.
    Possibly because the attendance was limited to 36,000 for competitive games?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Seriously though lads, the population idea is a non-runner. The idea that the greater Dublin area (nearly 1.4 or 1.5 million) could not provide, say, 40-50k people between 3-4 clubs is rubbish. Especially when you consider the thousands that leave the country every weekend to head over EPL games. Not to mention those that watch in the pub. I'm a supporter of an EPL team myself (as are most LOI supporters) and it's not population that kills off the possibility of (albeit small) professional setups here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,421 ✭✭✭major bill


    Norway has an identical population to us and are able to sustain a professional league.


    spot on ive always said norway is one of the countries in europe that irish football should try to replicate. in the 1970/80s norway had one of the worst leagues in europe,they also suffer from home supporters having a big interest in english football. The norweigan Fa along with the clubs marketed the league built quality stadiums and a good standard of football along with a decent following developed as a result, facilties is the key imo.

    i dont buy this they dont have to compete with the GAA or rugby as far as im concerned why cant all 3 get a healty following, how many irish go over to the uk each week to watch the premiership/championship/spl?? if even a chunk of that went to a few grounds in ireland the night before it would be a start.ive nothing against people that support english clubs im a liverpool fan and a bohs fan but theres nothing to stop u from supporting both as seen in norway, LOI plays on a friday, Premiership on a saturday.


    as for this match itself im not a fan the squad selection imo is a joke. No amond:eek: 3 strikers one of which isnt even a striker(ryan guy) and the other never scores(shepard).its a joke of a fixture people are coming to see united they have no interest in who paddy madden plays for, it will not promote the league ive been going to long now to know that fixtures like these to fcukall to entice people back. rovers fixture against juve will do more for the league and sadly will prob only generate them new fans.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,435 ✭✭✭✭redout


    Norway are one of the richest countries on the planet thanks to having a heap of oil. Now I dont know the in's and out's of it but they could possibly have far more money invested in their domestic league/clubs.


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