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Your opinions on Transsexuals

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  • #62
    Royal Irish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭Royal Irish


    Links234 wrote: »
    by the way, transition certainly isn't for sexual reasons
    I'm interested in women sexually, I've never had any interest in men at all.


    For someone who sees themselves as being transgender, I find this very strange. All transexuals I know personally are interested in men.


  • #63
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Royal Irish wrote: »
    For someone who sees themselves as being transgender, I find this very strange. All transexuals I know personally are interested in men.

    That's an odd observation. All the women I know are into men. Just because I don't know any lesbians however, doesn't mean they don't exist, or are strage in any way.


  • #64
    Royal Irish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭Royal Irish


    zoegh wrote: »
    Can people PLEASE stop posting pics of Miriam I keep getting all hot under the collar!!! ;)

    And as one of the posters who was 'attacking' Roam over in the LGB forum, I'm glad to see a change of heart in a way in his/her posts over here. :) It's also nice to see most people not giving much of a crap.

    I shagged her. She goes by the name Victoria now.


  • #65
    Royal Irish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭Royal Irish


    starbelgrade wrote: »
    That's an odd observation. All the women I know are into men. Just because I don't know any lesbians however, doesn't mean they don't exist, or are strage in any way.

    Its just speaking from experience. I have met a few who are into other transexuals but they are few and far between. Never have I met a transexual whos sexual preferences were for women. Abit crude, but perfect example would be a transexuals choice of porn. Most I know would much rather look at male on male porn than any other type for the simple reason, there is more cocks in gay porn.


  • #66
    Pherekydes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    HereNorThere wrote: »
    It's unnatural. Totally wrong.

    What is natural? Brain surgery? Open heart surgery? Heart and lung transplants? Medicine has progressed a bit. If you have a problem that has a surgical solution then why not. It's not too long since dentistry amounted to yanking bad teeth with pliers, but now you can get a smile like this if you've enough money.
    sligopark wrote: »
    generally I tend to agree but truthfully there is an island for this sort of thing - england

    England is not an island. That is all.

    To all the people out there who think transgenders are unnatural, you should go and find out what exactly natural is. Read more. Especially Anthropology. Educate yourselves. And open your minds.


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  • #67
    lugha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭lugha


    Here’s a pickle. There’s a thread lying about the place where an Israeli woman gets a good seeing to, essentially because a court endorsed her right to have a racist and prejudice view respected (let’s leave aside the bizarre fact that it was a charge of rape that was preferred).

    My question is, if a transsexual has a relationship with someone and does not disclose the full SP to them, does said someone have any recourse to the law as it stands or should they have? And if so, how would you make such a view sit with the universal disapproval of the Israeli “rape” case?


  • #68
    Jairo Red Gnu
    Posts: 1,060 ✭✭✭ Jairo Red Gnu


    sexuality is as varied as the vegetation on the planet . People get angry at gays transgenders etc etc as it upsets the norm. I say whatever gets you through the night as long as it dosnt involve animals or children and its between consenting adults of reasonably sound mind.


  • #69
    Pherekydes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    lugha wrote: »
    My question is, if a transsexual has a relationship with someone and does not disclose the full SP to them, does said someone have any recourse to the law as it stands or should they have?

    Does anyone have recourse to the law when they have a relationship with anyone else? Are you obliged to say up front that you are a single mom or dad or that you are only out for a bit of fun or that you only want NSA sex or that you've had STDs in the past or that you're a psychopathic control freak with murderous tendencies? It would be nice to know everything about the person you are jumping into bed/marching down the aisle with, but legal recourse? Ain't gonna happen.


  • #70
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    At the end of the day, I am no work of art, I'm not perfect, I more than likely less good looking in some cases than others living in their own life category....
    - So who the hell am I to judge!


  • #71
    Royal Irish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭Royal Irish


    lugha wrote: »
    Here’s a pickle. There’s a thread lying about the place where an Israeli woman gets a good seeing to, essentially because a court endorsed her right to have a racist and prejudice view respected (let’s leave aside the bizarre fact that it was a charge of rape that was preferred).

    My question is, if a transsexual has a relationship with someone and does not disclose the full SP to them, does said someone have any recourse to the law as it stands or should they have? And if so, how would you make such a view sit with the universal disapproval of the Israeli “rape” case?

    Thats an interesting post. A certain England rugby player springs to mind, think it was Danny Cipriani who was going out with a very passable transexual until the red tops got wind of it.

    I dont think in any EU countries there could be charges brought against a transexual for this. That Israeli case was just Israel being, well Israel. Am pretty sure stuff like that happens all the time in Israel anyway as they have a massive TS scene. That case was just racism at its worst.

    I actually got tricked in Singapore a few years ago when I met, what I thought was a girl in a nightclub. She was 100% passable and I didnt find out until the last minute when I got a mouthful of KY jelly when I licked her man made pussy. Like any good Irish man I soldiered on.


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  • #72
    lugha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭lugha


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    Does anyone have recourse to the law when they have a relationship with anyone else? Are you obliged to say up front that you are a single mom or dad or that you are only out for a bit of fun or that you only want NSA sex or that you've had STDs in the past or that you're a psychopathic control freak with murderous tendencies? It would be nice to know everything about the person you are jumping into bed/marching down the aisle with, but legal recourse? Ain't gonna happen.
    I guess my bringing the law in to it distorts the question I was asking (although the law doesn’t completely duck out on these matters, you can (could?) be done for breach of contract if you ended an engagement, and people have been done for not disclosing to partners that they had AIDS).
    It was more about acceptable prejudice. I think many people (and I am one!) would be most miffed if a transsexual did not disclose this to me. But is this prejudice? And if so, is it more acceptable than the prejudice displayed by the Israeli woman? I’m inclined to say it isn’t prejudice (because I want it not to be so :pac:) but I can’t come up with a satisfactory rational to distinguish between the two.


  • #73
    moonpurple
    Closed Accounts Posts: 852 ✭✭✭moonpurple


    op

    if they are not interfering with anyone
    and it works for them
    then live and let live:pac:


  • #74
    Jesus Wept
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    A great bunch of lads. ...or ladies.


  • #75
    Chiorino
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 623 ✭✭✭Chiorino


    Royal Irish wrote: »

    I actually got tricked in Singapore a few years ago when I met, what I thought was a girl in a nightclub. She was 100% passable and I didnt find out until the last minute when I got a mouthful of KY jelly when I licked her man made pussy. Like any good Irish man I soldiered on.

    Class.


  • #76
    aDeener
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭aDeener


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Nature says we should have fingernails/toenails 50 feet long,unless we use sisscors, hair to our dickey di doos unless we cut it, 10ft beards for men and rampant body hair for women, nature says some of us should go blind in our twenties, but we invented glasses, it says some of us should never have been born at all, but we studied and studied and increased infant mortality, some of us should have died in infancy, but we did unnatural things like transplants etc. ....we have triumphed over 'nature'.....it's what makes us unique on this earth, without that 'triumph' some of us should have died of measles ffs!
    Some people (yes! human beings) feel that they don't fit and medical science can sort that out.... But hey! some of us, sitting by our firesides getting morally indignant and using the poker to fry the immoral hedonists we don't allow the freedom to breathe decide; you can't be that person because it's 'UNNATURAL'....and I bet you are probably a catholic.....gimme me a break!

    and then you have to spoil it all by saying something stupid like......


    get off your fucking horse mate, you give out about others here being morally indignant and then you say that.
    :rolleyes:


  • #77
    inmyday
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 731 ✭✭✭inmyday


    my opinion of transsexuals:

    i dont care, its none of my business what anyone else does. why are some people making it their business????


  • #78
    Royal Irish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭Royal Irish


    In my day people used to use capital letters at the start of sentences.


  • #79
    up for anything
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,791 ✭✭✭up for anything


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    Does anyone have recourse to the law when they have a relationship with anyone else? Are you obliged to say up front that you are a single mom or dad or that you are only out for a bit of fun or that you only want NSA sex or that you've had STDs in the past or that you're a psychopathic control freak with murderous tendencies? It would be nice to know everything about the person you are jumping into bed/marching down the aisle with, but legal recourse? Ain't gonna happen.


    Um... Jailed for pretence


  • #80
    Roamc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32 ✭Roamc


    You know as the last night went on I really began to respect Transgenders, despite what I've said they're very brave people to try and get where they are. I suggest that anyone who's transphobe, anyone confused or looking for answers on the topic go here > http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055966319. There are some very informative answers there.

    If you don't think they're brave read this, this was a response to one of my bigoted posts
    Did I CHOOSE to identify as female? No more than you probably CHOOSE to identify as your gender.

    Would I CHOOSE to make less money, just because I am a woman?
    Would I CHOOSE to lose half of my friends, when I came out?
    Would I CHOOSE to deal with many members of society who's only experience of gender variance comes from what they saw on a TV reality show?
    Would I CHOOSE to spend tens of thousands of dollars on psychiatrists, endochrinonogists, just to make myself whole?
    Would I CHOOSE to risk losing my job because of the "Real Life Experience"?
    Would I CHOOSE to risk assault, rape, murder, because I am perceived as a "freak" by some?

    If thats not bravery, I don't know what is.


  • #81
    Links234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    Royal Irish wrote: »
    For someone who sees themselves as being transgender, I find this very strange. All transexuals I know personally are interested in men.

    Well that only goes to show the sexuality of those you know. I know a lot of lesbian transwomen online, and of course there are many famous ones, if you don't believe me. author and activist Julia Serano, filmmaker Kimberly Reed, musician Marissa Martinez, they're all attracted to other women

    there are loads of lesbian transgender women, and there are also gay trans men you know?
    gender identity and sexual orientation are two different things ;)


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  • #82
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,236 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    My opinion is that they are ordinary people just like you and me - I'm glad to see that the OP has become more enlightened from reading the LGBT forum

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #83
    Minstrel27
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    inmyday wrote: »
    my opinion of transsexuals:

    i dont care, its none of my business what anyone else does. why are some people making it their business????

    You gave your opinion. I will give mine.

    I am opposed to the whole thing.

    And to the person comparing people having sex changes to cutting your toe nails and shaving. You are really clutching at straws with that one.


  • #84
    KittyeeTrix
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,239 ✭✭✭KittyeeTrix


    Each to their own I say, enjoy your life and live it whatever way keeps you happy as long as as it's not bothering others and for that reason I fully support transexuals in their long road to happiness and contentment:)


  • #85
    Links234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    Minstrel27 wrote: »
    I am opposed to the whole thing.
    why?


  • #86
    AudreyHepburn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    Each to their own, I feel. It's not as though they choose to be born in the wrong body.

    If it doesn't harm themselves or anyone else and makes them feel better and more secure in themselves then I'm all for it.


  • #87
    scientific1982
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,562 ✭✭✭scientific1982


    Good on them if it makes them happy. If everyone looked the same the world would be a dull place.


  • #88
    scientific1982
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,562 ✭✭✭scientific1982


    Oh yeah, asian mtf transexuals can be very hard to distinguish from natural females.


  • #89
    Lone Stone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Lone Stone


    Anything with boobs cant be bad


  • #90
    Odysseus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    Minstrel27 wrote: »
    You gave your opinion. I will give mine.

    I am opposed to the whole thing.

    And to the person comparing people having sex changes to cutting your toe nails and shaving. You are really clutching at straws with that one.

    Personally I think that is fine, everyone is entitled to their own opinions. However, I would ask what your opposition equates to if I may. Because you are personally opposed to it; would you then believe that that we should not fund services for trans-gendered people? Would that include denying them access to state paid operations and the like? Would it include reinforcing the prejudices that trans-gendered people have to overcome?

    I find it a interesting topic so I have discussed this quite a bit in work and with friends; I know some people who are against it on religious/moral grounds and to be fair I believe they are entitled to their beliefs, but there is a difference between someone being entitled to the right to have a subjective viewpoint on something and that viewpoint becoming something that effects another person's life.


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  • #91
    Minstrel27
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    Links234 wrote: »
    why?

    It is unnatural and wrong.
    Odysseus wrote: »
    would you then believe that that we should not fund services for trans-gendered people? Would that include denying them access to state paid operations and the like?

    I wouild not deny someone a surgical procedure for a medical condition. Wanting to be a member of the opposite sex is not a medical condition.


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