Your opinions on Transsexuals

Roamc

I was in a heated debate on the LGBT forum about Transsexuals, I was bombarded with abuse from the forum after giving my honest opinion on the topic.

So AH, what's your opinion on trans genders? I have respect for them for pursuing their lifelong dreams. They're very brave.

Mickeroo

Well I think they're just swell.

greenmachine88

My opinion is they never look like real men/women.

stovelid

Roamc wrote: »

I was bombarded with abuse from the forum after giving my honest opinion on the topic.

And you come here..?

Couldn't care less about them. Their lives; their bodies.

super_furry

They're a lot better than trolls.

bad2dabone

i think they're mentally ill. but they're not doing me any harm, so let them be.

Biggins

Live and let live.

Roamc

greenmachine88 wrote: »

My opinion is they never look like real men/women.

Yes they do. http://www.google.ie/imgres?imgurl=http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_0S1OkLcQbk/2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://en.kendincos.net/video-rjtpdnt-japanese-newhalf-akane.html&usg=__ydEevv3N9go1ckBRgkchBnXWKfc=&h=96&w=128&sz=4&hl=en&start=0&tbnid=pawPtLYJ-ZXkhM:&tbnh=76&tbnw=101&prev=/images%3Fq%3DDanielle%2BFoxxx%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1440%26bih%3D797%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=423&ei=4zFKTMSELY_KjAeu8oXYDA&page=1&ndsp=28&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0

KnifeWRENCH

Roamc wrote: »

I was bombarded with abuse from the forum after giving my honest opinion on the topic.

Hmm...I wonder why? :rolleyes:

Roamc, on the LGBT thread wrote:

It's because they want to trick you. They want YOU to believe that they are women and get more out of YOU. They're usually gay men or women who want to get with heterosexuals (straight people) and trick them to believing different. Be careful out there, young one.

Anyway, I have no problem whatsoever with them. They have to go through something most of us will never be able to relate to, and I can't imagine how tough that is.

HereNorThere

It's unnatural. Totally wrong.

kylith

As long as their happy it's not my concern. If they tell me to call them John that's fine, if they tell me to call them Susan then that's fine too.

Ickle Magoo

I think the topic has a habit of bringing all those who doth protest too much to the fore....

Ricardo G

kylith wrote: »

As long as their happy it's not my concern. If they tell me to call them John that's fine, if they tell me to call them Susan then that's fine too.

Careful now, Hayley from Corrie could log on any time

Links234

http://mensagensmanuscritas.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/keep-trolling3.gif

Hank_Jones

Biggins wrote: »

Live and let live.

Post reminded me of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaqcGat1WUI

Off topic, I know, sorry.

epgc3fyqirnbsx

My philosophy for them is the same as for everyone, as long as you aren't hurting anyone then it's no one elses business

Roamc

^

SoupyNorman

Biggins wrote: »

Live and let live.

Indeed, as long as they keep their massive wangs out of my ass everybody is happy.

sligopark

Marina Tart Pasteboard wrote: »

My philosophy for them is the same as for everyone, as long as you aren't hurting anyone then it's no one elses business

generally I tend to agree but truthfully there is an island for this sort of thing - england

Cupcake_Crisis

I admire their courage and wish them all the best

Dudess

HereNorThere wrote: »

It's unnatural. Totally wrong.

To you, not them. It obviously feels natural and right for them.

whiteboy

a lot of asians and black women look like transsexuals:pac::pac:

minister poxbottle

Freaks

Hank_Jones

whiteboy wrote: »

a lot of asians and black women look like transsexuals:pac::pac:

Wow, that's really, really offensive.

To so many groups as well.

Roamc

minister poxbottle wrote: »

Freaks

Despite my views, nobody on this earth is a freak. That was just a bit out of hand, mate. At the end of the day they're just people like you and me.

mardybumbum

whiteboy wrote: »

a lot of asians and black women look like transsexuals:pac::pac:

Im ashamed to share the same avatar with you.

storm2811

I can't remember the first time I found out what a transsexual was but I don't think I've ever thought they were weird or "freaks",I was just really interested in how it happens and wanted to know more.

Just another thing I wanted to know about really.
I think they're really brave for doing what they do and standing up against ridicule.

GalwayGuy92

I think transgender people are somewhat blackballed by everyone because what they are is so at odds with modern ways of thinking and schooling. A lot of people will never understand what being transgendered really means because of this. It is impossible for most of us (myself included) to fathom the depth of emotional distress caused by being trangender, because for most of us it will never be an issue.
Transgender people deserve to be treated the same as everybody else as they are the same as everyone else. They aren't some race of mythical aliens or scary sexual predators out to trick straight people into gay sex, I hate to break it to everyone but what happens in porn is not always real. They are people, who deserve respect just the same as anyone else.

Roamc

storm2811 wrote: »

I can't remember the first time I found out what a transsexual was but I don't think I've ever thought they were weird or "freaks",I was just really interested in how it happens and wanted to know more.

Just another thing I wanted to know about really.
I think they're really brave for doing what they do and standing up against ridicule.

I'd agree that they one who are genuinely transsexual are very brave people. But those who got the operation done for other reasons are just plain cowardly.

kylith

Ricardo G wrote: »

Careful now, Hayley from Corrie could log on any time

I'll call them Hayley if they want me too. Wouldn't be my first choice of name if I were going M->F.

I never will though, since I'm a girl.

Dudess

Roamc wrote: »

I'd agree that they one who are genuinely transsexual are very brave people. But those who got the operation done for other reasons are just plain cowardly.

Like what other reasons?

Stercus Accidit

Dudess wrote: »

Like what other reasons?

I call troll.

Padlock in 3, 2 ....

Links234

Dudess wrote: »

Like what other reasons?

cheaper car insurance

minister poxbottle

Roamc wrote: »

Despite my views, nobody on this earth is a freak. That was just a bit out of hand, mate. At the end of the day they're just people like you and me.[/QU

What about michael jackson :pac:

Roamc

Dudess wrote: »

Like what other reasons?

As stated above, sexual and attention. I regret including the entire community in my first post after reading the Understanding Transgender thread.

Roamc

Links234 wrote: »

cheaper car insurance

As much as I hate your sarcasm, your funny!

Dudess

Doubtful what you're referring to even exists tbh - as if a person would have a serious and delicate operation (and subject to a lot of terms) purely for vacuous reasons...

Hank_Jones

minister poxbottle wrote: »

What about michael jackson :pac:

He's not on earth (he's dead).

Just wanted to point that out.

Links234

if anyone has any serious questions about this, feel free to PM me and ask, I'll be happy to answer any questions you might have

Roamc

Dudess wrote: »

Doubtful what you're referring to even exists tbh - as if a person would have a serious and delicate operation (and subject to a lot of terms) purely for vacuous reasons...

First hand experience, I can tell you they do exist, you'd be suprised at the lengths people will go through to reach a level of malevolence. But, most Transsexual are genuine. As I've learnt only today :P silly me.

kylith

Roamc wrote: »

As stated above, sexual and attention. I regret including the entire community in my first post after reading the Understanding Transgender thread.

I'd be sceptical of that. AFAIK those wishing to undergo gender reassignment have to undergo a battery of psycological examinations.

Happyman42

HereNorThere wrote: »

It's unnatural. Totally wrong.

Nature says we should have fingernails/toenails 50 feet long,unless we use sisscors, hair to our dickey di doos unless we cut it, 10ft beards for men and rampant body hair for women, nature says some of us should go blind in our twenties, but we invented glasses, it says some of us should never have been born at all, but we studied and studied and increased infant mortality, some of us should have died in infancy, but we did unnatural things like transplants etc. ....we have triumphed over 'nature'.....it's what makes us unique on this earth, without that 'triumph' some of us should have died of measles ffs!
Some people (yes! human beings) feel that they don't fit and medical science can sort that out.... But hey! some of us, sitting by our firesides getting morally indignant and using the poker to fry the immoral hedonists we don't allow the freedom to breathe decide; you can't be that person because it's 'UNNATURAL'....and I bet you are probably a catholic.....gimme me a break!

Dudess

Roamc wrote: »

First hand experience, I can tell you they do exist, you'd be suprised at the lengths people will go through to reach a level of malevolence.

Funnily enough, I'm still not convinced...

L.Jenkins

You know as a Trans person myself, If I where an out and out attention seeker, I'd be as flambouyant as that cross dresser dame judy or what ever his name is. As Links said, anyone who's genuinely interested in the opinions of trans people, don't be afraid to ask, Curiousity is as natural as Trans people and Trolls.

By the way Roam, I can think of a million other ways of seeking attention besides having myself castrated.

Oh ya, trans women do pass very well thanks to modern medical science:
http://cdn1.ioffer.com/img/item/361/650/26/Miriam_1.jpg

Einhard

HereNorThere wrote: »

It's unnatural. Totally wrong.

More natural I imagine that to feel like a woman in every way, yet to be stuck in a man's body. Or vice versa.

Roamc wrote: »

First hand experience, I can tell you they do exist, you'd be suprised at the lengths people will go through to reach a level of malevolence.

I can't help but be intrigued.

storm2811

Links234 wrote: »

so think about it, how many girls would be interested in a relationship with a girl like me? probably very, very few compared to how many would be interested in me if I stayed as I am. so by transitioning, I would be reducing my chances of a relationship with a girl. so it's really, really not for any kind of sexual reasons at all, it's for me.. it's to feel comfortable with my own body and that's all there is to it.

and also, transgender girls can be incredibly beautiful looking: http://imgur.com/SDMw8.jpg

Well a girl would go for your personality and whatever first impression you make,it's how I choose who I go out with anyway.

Zillah

Links234 wrote: »

by the way, transition certainly isn't for sexual reasons
I'm interested in women sexually, I've never had any interest in men at all.

yet in the near future, I'm going to be starting hormone replacement therapy. my testosterone production will be blocked, and I'll be taking estrogen. what will happen to my body looks something like this: http://i.imgur.com/keetd.jpg my breasts will develop, my skin will soften, my body hair will reduce, body fat will redistribute and overall, my body will become female.

so think about it, how many girls would be interested in a relationship with a girl like me? probably very, very few compared to how many would be interested in me if I stayed as I am. so by transitioning, I would be reducing my chances of a relationship with a girl. so it's really, really not for any kind of sexual reasons at all, it's for me.. it's to feel comfortable with my own body and that's all there is to it.

Awesome. So let me get this straight. You are currently male, attracted to women, but feel female inside. So you will become female, and still be attracted to women...so you'll be a lesbian?

and also, transgender girls can be incredibly beautiful looking: http://imgur.com/SDMw8.jpg

I am so happy for her, its a real pity all sex change operations can't go so well.

baby and crumble

Originally posted by ItsThatManAgain
Oh ya, trans women do pass very well thanks to modern medical science:
http://cdn1.ioffer.com/img/item/361/650/26/Miriam_1.jpg

Can people PLEASE stop posting pics of Miriam I keep getting all hot under the collar!!!

And as one of the posters who was 'attacking' Roam over in the LGB forum, I'm glad to see a change of heart in a way in his/her posts over here. It's also nice to see most people not giving much of a crap.

starbelgrade

MultiUmm wrote: »

Wow. The two of them look stunning!

Hopefully this might dispel the myth that transgender people look like men in drag after hormone replacement and surgery. :rolleyes:

Everytime I see one of those "make-over" programs, the woman always ends being transformed from a dowdy girl to looking like a man in drag!

On the subject of transgenders - I say live & let live... I don't really see the point in anyone having predjudices towards anyone who wants to live their lives as they choose & in doing so, causes no harm to anyone else.

Live & let live.

NoHornJan

Left handed people were ostracised, so were dyslexys,so were ginger haired people, those with stammers were laughed at, people with limps were called hoppalongs,kids with Downs Syndrome were called idiots in the 1911 Census, unless you are without flaws to your character or being and are totally happy with yourself and want no changes i.e.more brains, then let other people live their own lives, and let them live life as they want to. It's their lives not ours.

strobe

MultiUmm wrote: »

Wow. The two of them look stunning!

Hopefully this might dispel the myth that transgender people look like men in drag after hormone replacement and surgery. :rolleyes:

Really?? They look stunning to you?

I think they both look like really manish girls. If I saw them walking down the street the word ugly would be thought of well before the word stunning.

Having said that. I could not care less if someone wants to have a sex change. I have learned on boards that their are physiological(sc) reasons for it, apparently. But in the same way that the native american guy that had himself a load of surgery to be more like a cat {google it} {cat man} when it is clear he has serious emotional issues that could have been better treated with therapy or something. Anything apart from having his ears cut into points and his lip pierced dozens of times to make a place to fit whiskers........I think thier are probably a lot of people applying for gender reasignment surgery because of the same reasons.

Some sort of verifiable test should be devised to seperate the genuine cases from the nutcases. Doctors take that oath....first do no harm.....cutting off a crazy depressed emotionally unstable guys penis cause he thinks it will make him happier doesn't hold to that oath.

Diagnose the legitamate cases and treat them. Treat the others like you would any other mental patient. With care and therapy.

http://www.rainbowskill.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/p2.jpg