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  • 21-07-2010 12:10am
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    The_ONeill
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    Anyone listen to gabber/hardcore/speedcore/terror?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRFj9sb1SEg
    Myself and a few friends are into it but it seems most people can't get into it, haha.


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    g5fd6ow0hseima
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    I find that gabber, hardstyle / hardcore is utter ****e to be honest. The first ever gabber tune, We Have Arrived by Mescalinum United is an absolute classic (I love it) but from what I can see it turned **** not long after.

    This guy was a fairly well respected producer of Dutch gabber in the mid 90s and this tune was released only 4 years after We Have Arrived, yet listen to how ****e this is

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGaeu4FAyTo


    How bad is that?

    _______________________

    Hopefully some of the older heads on here could point me in the direction of good gabber as I prefer harder electronic music but to be honest, I havent looked beyond a few dozen embarrasingly bad videos on youtube....


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    Executive Steve
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    Those Thunderdome compilations were always a joke though in fairness... It's like telling someone Theo Parrish is ****e because of Hed Kandi.



    Always really liked the Australian take on things :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYpSg17JgSU


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUAIytJU4m4


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1KRNYbazhI


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBA6ZcolmxM


    On a Dutch tip (early!) Mokum was always the label the heads checked for.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE1wu3YiGU4


    Lenny Dee was a god among men as well, ruling the roost from Brooklyn New York. He slept in my bed once, true story! (no, I wasn't in it)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl8g_7WvgGU


    And a newer one :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdBruyf2C1I


    Can't talk about teh modern stuff without mentioning Hellfish and The DJ Producer

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf7A_zTeFwo


    ^ note the drumbreak sampled off "Metropolis" by Adam F at around 1.40 in!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HSg60PJGvY


    Can't beat a bit of speedcore either:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR45DXF7hiI


    Anyway, as for the future of the genre, the only stuff I still seek out to listen to is the new school stuff, flashcore is the way forward imo, 400bpm+ FTW

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUhH-mkfpuw


    Tracks :

    Komprex - Refuse Bad Speedcore.
    Komprex feat. Frazzbass - Terror Worldwide.
    La Peste - Il Etait ... ''Magnetique'' Une Possibilite.
    La Peste - Urgence Détergence Autrui.
    Neurocore - Mystification Des Astres.
    Korrigan - J. Bottlegrin.
    Venetian Snares - I'm A ****ing Idiot.
    No Name - Esprit.
    Element Abuse - Nothing To Fear Nothing To Doubt.
    Atomhead - SFV 2.0.
    Sampler Sick - Folie anticonformiste.
    La Peste - Alors le doute s'immiscea.
    La Peste - 1998 ?
    Lawrencium - Crash En Sol Majeur.
    La Peste - Alaoui J'Ecoute Ton Horloge De Sueur.
    Lawrencium - Massacre___Destruction.
    Lawrencium - Proton.
    Ravision - Sad Mellow.
    Darkfreak - Ecstasy.
    Angerfist - Yes.
    Darkfreak - EKG.

    Album : http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SMJM6AHX


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    Is mise le key
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    Aidan Brave Lounge wrote: »

    Hopefully some of the older heads on here could point me in the direction of good gabber as I prefer harder electronic music but to be honest, I havent looked beyond a few dozen embarrasingly bad videos on youtube....

    Dont know if steve is referring to the terrordrome albums but the Mokum label was on them a lot, according to discogs 1 to 4 were released in collaboration with Mokum,

    I have this one on CD since 1994,

    Terrordrome I

    That one :rolleyes: is good i can say but cant vouch for everything that was released under that name after this one but here they all are anyway,

    http://www.katzforums.com/showthread.php?p=93927

    Some crazy tunes on it,

    http://www.4shared.com/audio/8jUtfZsV/Tonight_you_sleep_in_hell.html

    Heres a tape i converted also that ive had for years now with some really old gabba on it,

    Olympic Asylum Gabba 1993 Side A.MP3

    Olympic Asylum Gabba 1993 Side B.MP3


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    run_Forrest_run
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    wow, all this stuff brings me back to my younger days when I was listening to the likes of Thunderdome whilst cycling to school, I'd say I could have given Lance Armstrong a run for his money given the speeds I was doing on my bike, however my only drug was the Angel of Death pumping through my veins :D


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    ThirdMan
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    There was something slightly appealing about this when I was 15-16. But honestly, I don't know how people listen to this music. But listen to it they do. And more power to them.


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    rcaz
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    Venetian Snares does some gabber stuff that isn't bad... His album Winnipeg Is A Frozen ****hole comes to mind.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slNzeAM7g-c


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    DUB33
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    I use to love the stuff untill bout 94 but its a bit heavy for me now maybe its got somthing to do wit old age lol but saying that i wudnt be up to speed on any new gabber thats been releassed over the last few years :confused:


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    g5fd6ow0hseima
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    El Pr0n wrote: »
    Venetian Snares does some gabber stuff that isn't bad... His album Winnipeg Is A Frozen ****hole comes to mind.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slNzeAM7g-c
    That's a class album, one of the few VS albums ive given great time to! This is my favourite track from that album:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tMpwGp4EZc


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    Executive Steve
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    Is mise le key wrote: »
    gabba



    Gabber - never gabba.

    "Gabber" is very old Amsterdam-Yiddish slang, it would be the equivalent of "homeboy" or "homie". The music got it's name from the way that the kids coming in to buy the first wave of the harder records that came out would always call the guy behind the counter their "gabber" when asking for tunes.


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    milltown
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    Aidan Brave Lounge wrote: »
    ... yet listen to how ****e this is
    ....

    I can't.
    I tried but I couldn't take more than 15 - 20 seconds of it.


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    The_ONeill
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    To dismiss all hardcore as ****e is crazy, there are so many variations encompassed in the genre, from mainstream/aggressive/dark/ambient/doom etc... And every genre has a few suspect producers who produce actual ****e.

    The "We have arrived" (didn't aphex twin remix that at one stage?) was good and brought in a new sound and feeling into electronic music but it certainly doesn't define the genre as a whole.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s92pHecmmag


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    Executive Steve
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    The_ONeill wrote: »
    To dismiss all hardcore as ****e is crazy, there are so many variations encompassed in the genre, from mainstream/aggressive/dark/ambient/doom etc... And every genre has a few suspect producers who produce actual ****e.



    Quoted for truth.

    That tune with the Linkin Park samples in your original post did you very few favours though

    :pac:


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    The_ONeill
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    Executive Steve wrote: »
    Quoted for truth.

    That tune with the Linkin Park samples in your original post did you very few favours though

    :pac:

    A bit mainstream maybe but surely people don't think that one particular track defines the whole genre in a nutshell???:D

    If i started off with 300 bpm speedcore I'd be shot down. How do I embed vids on this site? (click utube button and copy paste in between tags doesn't work)


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    g5fd6ow0hseima
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    Executive Steve wrote: »
    Gabber - never gabba.

    What's gabba then? Im sure ive came across that title many times.


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    Executive Steve
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    Aidan Brave Lounge wrote: »
    What's gabba then? Im sure ive came across that title many times.



    The equivalent of people calling Techno "Tekno"

    Illiteracy, basically.


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    g5fd6ow0hseima
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    but in reality arent Techno and Tekno are two different things? Teknivals for example?


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    3hn2givr7mx1sc
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    I love it, love going mad to it.:P

    There was a bit about it on Danny Dyers Real Football Factories, they interviewed DJ Paul Elstak and showed a rave with all Rotterdam hooligans. Elstak was threatend by Ajax hooligans when they found out he was sheduled to play in Amsterdam.


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    g5fd6ow0hseima
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    baz2009 wrote: »
    I love it, love going mad to it.:P

    There was a bit about it on Danny Dyers Real Football Factories, they interviewed DJ Paul Elstak and showed a rave with all Rotterdam hooligans. Elstak was threatend by Ajax hooligans when they found out he was sheduled to play in Amsterdam.
    I'd love to see that, is it online?


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    3hn2givr7mx1sc
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    Aidan Brave Lounge wrote: »
    I'd love to see that, is it online?

    Saw it on Bravo myself.
    Did a quick search there and tv-links have all the episodes except the Holland one.-_-


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    brianc27
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    been listening to alot of stuff over the last year or so, not sure what it would be classed as, the likes of beatport would class the tracks as hardcore, but not sh*te stuff, just very dark, heavy, industrial sounding, aggressive noise, stuff like 100blumen, P.A.L, basically anything on the ant-zen label, was looking at heading to a german festival this year called Mashinenfest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbx0aMit3Js, doesnt look like its on this year though. Was this below mix that got me listening to it really (the first 25 mins or so specifically), still not sure if this sort of stuff would be classed as hardcore, sounds more like really heavy industrial music i suppose, i prefer to use the term 'crazy mental sh!t' myself.

    http://www.sendspace.com/file/kujrmk

    01. Circuit Parallele – Silenzio Assurdo [Spine]
    02. Die Neue Sachlichkeit – Contact [Pliftkauf]
    03. Celluloid Mata & Imminent – M.I.S.C [Vaccuum]
    04. Helicopterface – Purpose Aches (Element Abuse Remix) [Mash Up]
    05. Current 93 – The Great In The Small part I [Durto]
    06. Zotz – Metaflex [Yb70]
    07. Le Talium – Rebond [Zhark Berlin]
    08. Archae - Resolute [Maracas]
    09. La Peste – Pure Techno Track [Reverse]
    10. Zotz – Terranium [Yb70]
    11. Scorn – Stripped Back Hinge [Ad Noiseam]
    12. Surgeon – Shaper Of The Unknown [Counterbalance]
    13. Zym0siZ – Dante [Zhark Berlin]
    14. Caustic Window – Garden Of Linmiri [Rephlex]
    15. Imminent Starvation – Relocation 1 [Hymen]
    16. Sobchak – Electron Libre [Yb70]
    17. Sulphuric Saliva – Trap [Uncivilized World]
    18. Mescalinium United – We Have Arrived [PCP]
    19. Surgeon – Another Body [Counterbalance]
    20. Kareem – Botas [Possible Music]
    21. Mouse – Mas. 23 [Underground Perversions]
    22. Metic – Train Damage [Audio Illusion]
    23. Current 93 – The Great In The Small part II [Durto]
    24. Headcleaner – F84546 [Headcleaner]
    25. Cylob – Skraip [Rephlex]
    26. British Murder Boys – Fist [Downwards]
    27. Converter – Denogginizer (Kill The Brain) [Hymen]
    28. Monrella – Studio 5 [Zet]
    29. Nebula II – Normal [IST]
    30. X-103 – Curse Of The Gods [Tresor]
    31. Somatic Responses – RP03 [Deadly Systems]
    32. Elektroplasma – Untitled [L’Art et La Guerre]
    33. Zipper Spy – Factor 13 [Homewrecker Foundation


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    The_ONeill
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    baz2009 wrote: »
    I love it, love going mad to it.:P

    There was a bit about it on Danny Dyers Real Football Factories, they interviewed DJ Paul Elstak and showed a rave with all Rotterdam hooligans. Elstak was threatend by Ajax hooligans when they found out he was sheduled to play in Amsterdam.
    Aidan Brave Lounge wrote: »
    I'd love to see that, is it online?

    Here's the Paul Elstak interview.

    I went to a gabber night in Eindhoven last summer, best atmosphere ever for a dance event.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gptFRXsU0MU


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    How Soon Is Now
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    The_ONeill wrote: »
    Here's the Paul Elstak interview.

    I went to a gabber night in Eindhoven last summer, best atmosphere ever for a dance event.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gptFRXsU0MU

    Mad seeing an english interview on tv with this type music in it ha
    Had a mate whos father was from Eindhoven bk in school years bk who got me into hardcore this year deffo when check out Holland and Germany see what club scene is like.


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    The_ONeill
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    Love this track, it's by Ophidian a producer who definately has his own style.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JdXqeQ0r6U

    When I first started getting into hardcore, I only liked the lighter stuff and found some of the sounds too harsh but over time I grew an appreciation for how well some of the tracks were produced.


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    The_ONeill
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    angerfist2009 wrote: »
    Mad seeing an english interview on tv with this type music in it ha
    Had a mate whos father was from Eindhoven bk in school years bk who got me into hardcore this year deffo when check out Holland and Germany see what club scene is like.

    Headin back to Eindhoven myself in sept, keepin an eye on the partyflock.nl agenda for events.


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    How Soon Is Now
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    Can be hard to keep up with it at times there was an online radio station Fear FM that had chart mixs out every month which were usually good.

    I get alot of it online depends really what im in mood of at the time kinda go from everything to the older thunderdome stuff *have 1-24 some great stuff mixed with alot of cheesy mess ha* Then darkcore, hardcore, speedcore ,happy hardcore stuff again really depending on my mood for it at the time.

    The new thunderdome stuff can be really good as well they had a cd for there fight night rave which was nice!!

    The Enzyme Injection cds are good also the Masters of Hardcore and Nightmare In Rotterdam events do be class.


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    How Soon Is Now
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    Can ya imagine these tv ads on rte :P

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_E2DA2RSxXw&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j92nddB5aew

    Theres loads more all over youtube i love the old and newer Thunderdome tv adverts


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    The_ONeill
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    angerfist2009 wrote: »
    Can be hard to keep up with it at times there was an online radio station Fear FM that had chart mixs out every month which were usually good.

    I get alot of it online depends really what im in mood of at the time kinda go from everything to the older thunderdome stuff *have 1-24 some great stuff mixed with alot of cheesy mess ha* Then darkcore, hardcore, speedcore ,happy hardcore stuff again really depending on my mood for it at the time.

    The new thunderdome stuff can be really good as well they had a cd for there fight night rave which was nice!!

    The Enzyme Injection cds are good also the Masters of Hardcore and Nightmare In Rotterdam events do be class.

    Have fightnight, two good mixes, cd1 is my favourite but cd2 with the outside agency is good aswell they have their own sound.

    Unexist is another real favourite of mine, great turntablist aswell, here's one of his tunes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omvrLnXnbPw


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    How Soon Is Now
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    The_ONeill wrote: »
    Have fightnight, two good mixes, cd1 is my favourite but cd2 with the outside agency is good aswell they have their own sound.

    Unexist is another real favourite of mine, great turntablist aswell, here's one of his tunes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omvrLnXnbPw


    Unexist has some really nice tracks Tieum and Drokz are good as well.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5QWpVdzMPY

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPOy1Dp9LAA&feature=related


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    The_ONeill
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    angerfist2009 wrote: »
    Unexist has some really nice tracks Tieum and Drokz are good as well.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5QWpVdzMPY

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPOy1Dp9LAA&feature=related

    Tieum is good alright always has that real harsh bass, I have that drokz tune on record, terrornoize industry 4.

    There are a few good new mixes from drokz on this site, I'd like to see him play at some stage.
    http://www.coffeecore.de/download.html


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    30txsbzmcu2k9w
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    I actually enjoy the sound of gabber. I think it's due a revival in some capacity, in the same way 2-step garage was wrote off until Burial and the likes redefined it. Unexplored sound that maybe hasn't reached its full potential.
    At the moment I think the likes of Gabba Front Berlin are doing something a bit more interesting.
    Also the Gabba/Gabber argument earlier in this thread... illiteracy? Get a fúcking grip.


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