Gabber

The_ONeill

Anyone listen to gabber/hardcore/speedcore/terror?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRFj9sb1SEg
Myself and a few friends are into it but it seems most people can't get into it, haha.

g5fd6ow0hseima

I find that gabber, hardstyle / hardcore is utter ****e to be honest. The first ever gabber tune, We Have Arrived by Mescalinum United is an absolute classic (I love it) but from what I can see it turned **** not long after.

This guy was a fairly well respected producer of Dutch gabber in the mid 90s and this tune was released only 4 years after We Have Arrived, yet listen to how ****e this is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGaeu4FAyTo

How bad is that?

_______________________

Hopefully some of the older heads on here could point me in the direction of good gabber as I prefer harder electronic music but to be honest, I havent looked beyond a few dozen embarrasingly bad videos on youtube....

Executive Steve

Those Thunderdome compilations were always a joke though in fairness... It's like telling someone Theo Parrish is ****e because of Hed Kandi.



Always really liked the Australian take on things :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYpSg17JgSU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUAIytJU4m4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1KRNYbazhI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBA6ZcolmxM

On a Dutch tip (early!) Mokum was always the label the heads checked for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE1wu3YiGU4

Lenny Dee was a god among men as well, ruling the roost from Brooklyn New York. He slept in my bed once, true story! (no, I wasn't in it)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl8g_7WvgGU

And a newer one :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdBruyf2C1I

Can't talk about teh modern stuff without mentioning Hellfish and The DJ Producer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf7A_zTeFwo

^ note the drumbreak sampled off "Metropolis" by Adam F at around 1.40 in!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HSg60PJGvY

Can't beat a bit of speedcore either:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR45DXF7hiI

Anyway, as for the future of the genre, the only stuff I still seek out to listen to is the new school stuff, flashcore is the way forward imo, 400bpm+ FTW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUhH-mkfpuw

Tracks :

Komprex - Refuse Bad Speedcore.
Komprex feat. Frazzbass - Terror Worldwide.
La Peste - Il Etait ... ''Magnetique'' Une Possibilite.
La Peste - Urgence Détergence Autrui.
Neurocore - Mystification Des Astres.
Korrigan - J. Bottlegrin.
Venetian Snares - I'm A ****ing Idiot.
No Name - Esprit.
Element Abuse - Nothing To Fear Nothing To Doubt.
Atomhead - SFV 2.0.
Sampler Sick - Folie anticonformiste.
La Peste - Alors le doute s'immiscea.
La Peste - 1998 ?
Lawrencium - Crash En Sol Majeur.
La Peste - Alaoui J'Ecoute Ton Horloge De Sueur.
Lawrencium - Massacre___Destruction.
Lawrencium - Proton.
Ravision - Sad Mellow.
Darkfreak - Ecstasy.
Angerfist - Yes.
Darkfreak - EKG.

Album : http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SMJM6AHX

Is mise le key

Aidan Brave Lounge wrote: »

Hopefully some of the older heads on here could point me in the direction of good gabber as I prefer harder electronic music but to be honest, I havent looked beyond a few dozen embarrasingly bad videos on youtube....

Dont know if steve is referring to the terrordrome albums but the Mokum label was on them a lot, according to discogs 1 to 4 were released in collaboration with Mokum,

I have this one on CD since 1994,

Terrordrome I

That one :rolleyes: is good i can say but cant vouch for everything that was released under that name after this one but here they all are anyway,

http://www.katzforums.com/showthread.php?p=93927

Some crazy tunes on it,

http://www.4shared.com/audio/8jUtfZsV/Tonight_you_sleep_in_hell.html

Heres a tape i converted also that ive had for years now with some really old gabba on it,

Olympic Asylum Gabba 1993 Side A.MP3

Olympic Asylum Gabba 1993 Side B.MP3

run_Forrest_run

wow, all this stuff brings me back to my younger days when I was listening to the likes of Thunderdome whilst cycling to school, I'd say I could have given Lance Armstrong a run for his money given the speeds I was doing on my bike, however my only drug was the Angel of Death pumping through my veins

ThirdMan

There was something slightly appealing about this when I was 15-16. But honestly, I don't know how people listen to this music. But listen to it they do. And more power to them.

rcaz

Venetian Snares does some gabber stuff that isn't bad... His album Winnipeg Is A Frozen ****hole comes to mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slNzeAM7g-c

DUB33

I use to love the stuff untill bout 94 but its a bit heavy for me now maybe its got somthing to do wit old age lol but saying that i wudnt be up to speed on any new gabber thats been releassed over the last few years

g5fd6ow0hseima

El Pr0n wrote: »

Venetian Snares does some gabber stuff that isn't bad... His album Winnipeg Is A Frozen ****hole comes to mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slNzeAM7g-c

That's a class album, one of the few VS albums ive given great time to! This is my favourite track from that album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tMpwGp4EZc

Executive Steve

Is mise le key wrote: »

gabba

Gabber - never gabba.

"Gabber" is very old Amsterdam-Yiddish slang, it would be the equivalent of "homeboy" or "homie". The music got it's name from the way that the kids coming in to buy the first wave of the harder records that came out would always call the guy behind the counter their "gabber" when asking for tunes.

milltown

Aidan Brave Lounge wrote: »

... yet listen to how ****e this is
....

I can't.
I tried but I couldn't take more than 15 - 20 seconds of it.

The_ONeill

To dismiss all hardcore as ****e is crazy, there are so many variations encompassed in the genre, from mainstream/aggressive/dark/ambient/doom etc... And every genre has a few suspect producers who produce actual ****e.

The "We have arrived" (didn't aphex twin remix that at one stage?) was good and brought in a new sound and feeling into electronic music but it certainly doesn't define the genre as a whole.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s92pHecmmag

Executive Steve

The_ONeill wrote: »

To dismiss all hardcore as ****e is crazy, there are so many variations encompassed in the genre, from mainstream/aggressive/dark/ambient/doom etc... And every genre has a few suspect producers who produce actual ****e.

Quoted for truth.

That tune with the Linkin Park samples in your original post did you very few favours though

:pac:

The_ONeill

Executive Steve wrote: »

Quoted for truth.

That tune with the Linkin Park samples in your original post did you very few favours though

:pac:

A bit mainstream maybe but surely people don't think that one particular track defines the whole genre in a nutshell???:D

If i started off with 300 bpm speedcore I'd be shot down. How do I embed vids on this site? (click utube button and copy paste in between tags doesn't work)

g5fd6ow0hseima

Executive Steve wrote: »

Gabber - never gabba.

What's gabba then? Im sure ive came across that title many times.

Executive Steve

Aidan Brave Lounge wrote: »

What's gabba then? Im sure ive came across that title many times.

The equivalent of people calling Techno "Tekno"

Illiteracy, basically.

g5fd6ow0hseima

but in reality arent Techno and Tekno are two different things? Teknivals for example?

3hn2givr7mx1sc

I love it, love going mad to it.:P

There was a bit about it on Danny Dyers Real Football Factories, they interviewed DJ Paul Elstak and showed a rave with all Rotterdam hooligans. Elstak was threatend by Ajax hooligans when they found out he was sheduled to play in Amsterdam.

g5fd6ow0hseima

baz2009 wrote: »

I love it, love going mad to it.:P

There was a bit about it on Danny Dyers Real Football Factories, they interviewed DJ Paul Elstak and showed a rave with all Rotterdam hooligans. Elstak was threatend by Ajax hooligans when they found out he was sheduled to play in Amsterdam.

I'd love to see that, is it online?

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Aidan Brave Lounge wrote: »

I'd love to see that, is it online?

Saw it on Bravo myself.
Did a quick search there and tv-links have all the episodes except the Holland one.-_-

brianc27

been listening to alot of stuff over the last year or so, not sure what it would be classed as, the likes of beatport would class the tracks as hardcore, but not sh*te stuff, just very dark, heavy, industrial sounding, aggressive noise, stuff like 100blumen, P.A.L, basically anything on the ant-zen label, was looking at heading to a german festival this year called Mashinenfest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbx0aMit3Js, doesnt look like its on this year though. Was this below mix that got me listening to it really (the first 25 mins or so specifically), still not sure if this sort of stuff would be classed as hardcore, sounds more like really heavy industrial music i suppose, i prefer to use the term 'crazy mental sh!t' myself.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/kujrmk

01. Circuit Parallele – Silenzio Assurdo [Spine]
02. Die Neue Sachlichkeit – Contact [Pliftkauf]
03. Celluloid Mata & Imminent – M.I.S.C [Vaccuum]
04. Helicopterface – Purpose Aches (Element Abuse Remix) [Mash Up]
05. Current 93 – The Great In The Small part I [Durto]
06. Zotz – Metaflex [Yb70]
07. Le Talium – Rebond [Zhark Berlin]
08. Archae - Resolute [Maracas]
09. La Peste – Pure Techno Track [Reverse]
10. Zotz – Terranium [Yb70]
11. Scorn – Stripped Back Hinge [Ad Noiseam]
12. Surgeon – Shaper Of The Unknown [Counterbalance]
13. Zym0siZ – Dante [Zhark Berlin]
14. Caustic Window – Garden Of Linmiri [Rephlex]
15. Imminent Starvation – Relocation 1 [Hymen]
16. Sobchak – Electron Libre [Yb70]
17. Sulphuric Saliva – Trap [Uncivilized World]
18. Mescalinium United – We Have Arrived [PCP]
19. Surgeon – Another Body [Counterbalance]
20. Kareem – Botas [Possible Music]
21. Mouse – Mas. 23 [Underground Perversions]
22. Metic – Train Damage [Audio Illusion]
23. Current 93 – The Great In The Small part II [Durto]
24. Headcleaner – F84546 [Headcleaner]
25. Cylob – Skraip [Rephlex]
26. British Murder Boys – Fist [Downwards]
27. Converter – Denogginizer (Kill The Brain) [Hymen]
28. Monrella – Studio 5 [Zet]
29. Nebula II – Normal [IST]
30. X-103 – Curse Of The Gods [Tresor]
31. Somatic Responses – RP03 [Deadly Systems]
32. Elektroplasma – Untitled [L’Art et La Guerre]
33. Zipper Spy – Factor 13 [Homewrecker Foundation

The_ONeill

baz2009 wrote: »

I love it, love going mad to it.:P

There was a bit about it on Danny Dyers Real Football Factories, they interviewed DJ Paul Elstak and showed a rave with all Rotterdam hooligans. Elstak was threatend by Ajax hooligans when they found out he was sheduled to play in Amsterdam.

Aidan Brave Lounge wrote: »

I'd love to see that, is it online?

Here's the Paul Elstak interview.

I went to a gabber night in Eindhoven last summer, best atmosphere ever for a dance event.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gptFRXsU0MU

How Soon Is Now

The_ONeill wrote: »

Here's the Paul Elstak interview.

I went to a gabber night in Eindhoven last summer, best atmosphere ever for a dance event.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gptFRXsU0MU

Mad seeing an english interview on tv with this type music in it ha
Had a mate whos father was from Eindhoven bk in school years bk who got me into hardcore this year deffo when check out Holland and Germany see what club scene is like.

The_ONeill

Love this track, it's by Ophidian a producer who definately has his own style.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JdXqeQ0r6U

When I first started getting into hardcore, I only liked the lighter stuff and found some of the sounds too harsh but over time I grew an appreciation for how well some of the tracks were produced.

The_ONeill

angerfist2009 wrote: »

Mad seeing an english interview on tv with this type music in it ha
Had a mate whos father was from Eindhoven bk in school years bk who got me into hardcore this year deffo when check out Holland and Germany see what club scene is like.

Headin back to Eindhoven myself in sept, keepin an eye on the partyflock.nl agenda for events.

How Soon Is Now

Can be hard to keep up with it at times there was an online radio station Fear FM that had chart mixs out every month which were usually good.

I get alot of it online depends really what im in mood of at the time kinda go from everything to the older thunderdome stuff *have 1-24 some great stuff mixed with alot of cheesy mess ha* Then darkcore, hardcore, speedcore ,happy hardcore stuff again really depending on my mood for it at the time.

The new thunderdome stuff can be really good as well they had a cd for there fight night rave which was nice!!

The Enzyme Injection cds are good also the Masters of Hardcore and Nightmare In Rotterdam events do be class.

How Soon Is Now

Can ya imagine these tv ads on rte :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_E2DA2RSxXw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j92nddB5aew

Theres loads more all over youtube i love the old and newer Thunderdome tv adverts

The_ONeill

angerfist2009 wrote: »

Can be hard to keep up with it at times there was an online radio station Fear FM that had chart mixs out every month which were usually good.

I get alot of it online depends really what im in mood of at the time kinda go from everything to the older thunderdome stuff *have 1-24 some great stuff mixed with alot of cheesy mess ha* Then darkcore, hardcore, speedcore ,happy hardcore stuff again really depending on my mood for it at the time.

The new thunderdome stuff can be really good as well they had a cd for there fight night rave which was nice!!

The Enzyme Injection cds are good also the Masters of Hardcore and Nightmare In Rotterdam events do be class.

Have fightnight, two good mixes, cd1 is my favourite but cd2 with the outside agency is good aswell they have their own sound.

Unexist is another real favourite of mine, great turntablist aswell, here's one of his tunes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omvrLnXnbPw

How Soon Is Now

The_ONeill wrote: »

Have fightnight, two good mixes, cd1 is my favourite but cd2 with the outside agency is good aswell they have their own sound.

Unexist is another real favourite of mine, great turntablist aswell, here's one of his tunes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omvrLnXnbPw

Unexist has some really nice tracks Tieum and Drokz are good as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5QWpVdzMPY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPOy1Dp9LAA&feature=related

The_ONeill

angerfist2009 wrote: »

Unexist has some really nice tracks Tieum and Drokz are good as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5QWpVdzMPY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPOy1Dp9LAA&feature=related

Tieum is good alright always has that real harsh bass, I have that drokz tune on record, terrornoize industry 4.

There are a few good new mixes from drokz on this site, I'd like to see him play at some stage.
http://www.coffeecore.de/download.html

30txsbzmcu2k9w

I actually enjoy the sound of gabber. I think it's due a revival in some capacity, in the same way 2-step garage was wrote off until Burial and the likes redefined it. Unexplored sound that maybe hasn't reached its full potential.
At the moment I think the likes of Gabba Front Berlin are doing something a bit more interesting.
Also the Gabba/Gabber argument earlier in this thread... illiteracy? Get a fúcking grip.

Is mise le key

Executive Steve wrote: »

Gabber - never gabba.

"Gabber" is very old Amsterdam-Yiddish slang, it would be the equivalent of "homeboy" or "homie". The music got it's name from the way that the kids coming in to buy the first wave of the harder records that came out would always call the guy behind the counter their "gabber" when asking for tunes.

Thanks for the info......never knew (or took much notice) that there was a difference......i thought it was Gabba & it got transformed to Gabber as a kind of pre suffix to replace 'Amster' or 'Rotter' to make 'Gabberdam' in a tribute kind of way to the cities where it was born.

Executive Steve wrote: »

The equivalent of people calling Techno "Tekno"

Illiteracy, basically.

Nuting to do wit iliterasy frend, jus ignirinse.......i luv dat Tekno wen im mad ourrivit:D

The_ONeill

Beckham Colossal Mountain wrote: »

I actually enjoy the sound of gabber. I think it's due a revival in some capacity, in the same way 2-step garage was wrote off until Burial and the likes redefined it. Unexplored sound that maybe hasn't reached its full potential.
At the moment I think the likes of Gabba Front Berlin are doing something a bit more interesting.
Also the Gabba/Gabber argument earlier in this thread... illiteracy? Get a fúcking grip.

Hardcore/gabber has a massive following it's just underground and will never get any real exposure in ireland like house/trance/hard dance etc..

Hardcore is the business, 2fm should put on a small 45 min hard show early sunday morning. The 50 people in ireland who listen to hardcore would be very happy, haha.

gavkm27

The term Gabber was used in the 90's when dutch hardcore people used to call themselves Gabber,it is actually Dutch for Buddy and people still use it today for that.

Since alot of folk who dont know think Hardcore has something to do with metal,people can use Hardcore Techno or Gabber to describe it.
Also people think of UK Happy Hardcore which is consider ****e by the majority of people into Hardcore

But to anyone within the scene it's Hardcore and it's many sub generes - Mainstream,Industrial,Speedcore,Terror,Uk Style,Breakcore and many others

It used to be just a dutch style but in the last 10 years the Italian have been challenging the trone,especially in the mainstream style,most noteably Dj D,he emcopasses the mainstream style,heavy on hip hop smaples standard hard kick and trance like melody.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uasrFl78y8Y

Whereas Industrial Hardcore has really taken off in last few years,i attended Thunderdome XV in 2007 and the main arena was dedicated to Future sounds with the likes of Unexist,The Outside Agency and The Dj Producer head lining.

Here is classic new style Industrial track from The Outside Agency

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRY1gyT4CjQ

There are very few people in Ireland into hardcore and Hardstyle and Techno are different generes altogether.

Thats my take on it anyway,still love it,Hardcore will never die you pussy mutha****erzzzz

How Soon Is Now

gavkm27 wrote: »

The term Gabber was used in the 90's when dutch hardcore people used to call themselves Gabber,it is actually Dutch for Buddy and people still use it today for that.

Since alot of folk who dont know think Hardcore has something to do with metal,people can use Hardcore Techno or Gabber to describe it.
Also people think of UK Happy Hardcore which is consider ****e by the majority of people into Hardcore

But to anyone within the scene it's Hardcore and it's many sub generes - Mainstream,Industrial,Speedcore,Terror,Uk Style,Breakcore and many others

It used to be just a dutch style but in the last 10 years the Italian have been challenging the trone,especially in the mainstream style,most noteably Dj D,he emcopasses the mainstream style,heavy on hip hop smaples standard hard kick and trance like melody.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uasrFl78y8Y

Whereas Industrial Hardcore has really taken off in last few years,i attended Thunderdome XV in 2007 and the main arena was dedicated to Future sounds with the likes of Unexist,The Outside Agency and The Dj Producer head lining.

Here is classic new style Industrial track from The Outside Agency

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRY1gyT4CjQ

There are very few people in Ireland into hardcore and Hardstyle and Techno are different generes altogether.

Thats my take on it anyway,still love it,Hardcore will never die you pussy mutha****erzzzz

Nice little bit of info there ha ah it would seriously be class if could get some kinda decent hardcore scene going in Ireland even trying to get a night going somewhere is hard seeing as the ****ing snobbery towards this type of music is bollox *You like hardcore your a knacker with no taste* :pac:

gavkm27

angerfist2009 wrote: »

Nice little bit of info there ha ah it would seriously be class if could get some kinda decent hardcore scene going in Ireland even trying to get a night going somewhere is hard seeing as the ****ing snobbery towards this type of music is bollox *You like hardcore your a knacker with no taste* :pac:

There is a bit of a scene up north,they are defo way more into it,but as for Dublin forget it,Endymion and Lenny Dee played in Belfast recently

Seriously though,all my knacker friends are'nt into it,they prefer Hardstyle and Uk Happy Hardcore.It's kinda weird how there is no real scene at all in Ireland.But it's small place,we did try years ago to get something going in Galway but it did'nt work

How Soon Is Now

Ya the UK stuff is popular with teens and u can see why mostly watered down rubbish.

Although saying that some of it aint the worst i have heard of raves happening up north and Masters of hardcore were in the UK before Scotland i think it was.

I have showed a fair few of me mates who are into the electronic music scene and who dj and set up nights in Dublin and its kinda 50/50 for them.
They can stick some of it for awhile but as soon as i turn the harder stuff on they lose interest :P

gavkm27

More Italian Hardcore-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E41GRmXOr-k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hETZGu5k2VY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Me0Br6GQiyQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m0nnjT_Cls

g5fd6ow0hseima

Im not trying to rise anyone but that's toxic stuff.... Surely there's some really good gabber that people can post? This stuff with ****ty synths running through it is just cringeworthy and I cant even last 10 seconds listening to it.

I think ill stick to the 'schranz / hardtechno' side of things...

Executive Steve

Flashcore is where it's at though

Flashcore is an avant-garde electronic style characterized by complex transcompositional rhythmic structures and extratone beat sequences (often exceeding 1000 bpm) combined with harsh, densely textured "acousmatic" and "hyperdelic" digital soundscapes. These aspects, among others (such as favouring new sounds over drum emulation in order to create beats), render Flashcore undanceable and highly distinct among the genres it grew out of, such as Breakcore, Speedcore, and the overall DJ culture. As stated by La Peste in the "Flashcore Manifesto", the aim of Flashcore is to act directly on the brain by utilizing new audio software technologies to control and manipulate sonic particles at the atomic level, creating fractal-like layers of abstract "nano-audio explosions" that are said to induce transcendent states and other psychological responses in the listener. These states have been compared to the meditative nature of Dubstep and the effects of hallucinogenic drugs. Flashcore's main proponents include the aforementioned La Peste, UndaCova/Atomhead, Sedarka, Neurocore and Kaebin Yield. Many Flashcore artists profess an affinity for Modern Classical composition techniques, an influence that is evident in their technical sound designs, use of acousmatic decomposition, timbre experimentation, and conceptual physical/mental approach.

Trying to find a link to the Flashcore Manifesto - basically a repudiation of all the manipulative druggy predictability of 99.9% of every that Speedcore etc turned into.

Here it is - required reading, especially for you Mr Cairns.

http://www.spannered.org/music/1181/

The_ONeill

Aidan Brave Lounge wrote: »

Im not trying to rise anyone but that's toxic stuff.... Surely there's some really good gabber that people can post? This stuff with ****ty synths running through it is just cringeworthy and I cant even last 10 seconds listening to it.

I think ill stick to the 'schranz / hardtechno' side of things...

Like all music worth listening to, it takes a while before you catch on to labels and artists that produce what you like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D74FGXRw_c

Here's a tune I made, thought it was class at the time but it sounds rough now, haha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6Rt_plzcKk

Saw dj bone and dj rush in manchester last week, good hard techno!

Executive Steve

Aidan Brave Lounge wrote: »

Im not trying to rise anyone but that's toxic stuff.... Surely there's some really good gabber that people can post? This stuff with ****ty synths running through it is just cringeworthy and I cant even last 10 seconds listening to it.

I think ill stick to the 'schranz / hardtechno' side of things...

Fully agree - Gabber was ruined when hardstyle came along and the likes of Angerfist went all synthy.

Terry Cotta

Stormtrooper was in Waterford back in February. Twas some session. A few heads around into it. Most people when they hear for the first time don't know what to think but after a good few kicks have dropped in and out they get.

How Soon Is Now

The_ONeill wrote: »

Like all music worth listening to, it takes a while before you catch on to labels and artists that produce what you like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D74FGXRw_c

Here's a tune I made, thought it was class at the time but it sounds rough now, haha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6Rt_plzcKk

Saw dj bone and dj rush in manchester last week, good hard techno!

Sounds good to me i liked it.

Music scenes change over time and develope into different things im not mad about alot new hardcore as its gone to mainstream almost prefer people not knowing much bout it. Keeps the wannabes from ruining it.

How Soon Is Now

Terry Cotta wrote: »

Stormtrooper was in Waterford back in February. Twas some session. A few heads around into it. Most people when they hear for the first time don't know what to think but after a good few kicks have dropped in and out they get.

Mad had no idea about this !!

Executive Steve

If anyone is in Dublin there's these Czech lads called the Springfield crew who do a regular hard techno / hardcore / frenchcore / hard dnb night every month in Murray's on O'Connell street.

Think the next one is tomorrow night:

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=127124887319921&ref=mf

copeyhagen

one word for the genre... ****e

How Soon Is Now

Executive Steve wrote: »

If anyone is in Dublin there's these Czech lads called the Springfield crew who do a regular hard techno / hardcore / frenchcore / hard dnb night every month in Murray's on O'Connell street.

Think the next one is tomorrow night:

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=127124887319921&ref=mf

Ive passed this place so many weekends didnt even know this went on every month seriously might try get listen 2morrw if im in town weather me mates will be up for it is another story

The_ONeill

copeyhagen wrote: »

Holy **** this music is awe-inspiring

I agree, hardcore is the ****!!!

Can't believe I missed the stormtrooper in waterford!

Drokz - Stiff Groove
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EtPbLo-b6g

The_ONeill

Executive Steve wrote: »

If anyone is in Dublin there's these Czech lads called the Springfield crew who do a regular hard techno / hardcore / frenchcore / hard dnb night every month in Murray's on O'Connell street.

Think the next one is tomorrow night:

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=127124887319921&ref=mf

I'd like to make it up there some night and give it a listen.

gavkm27

Executive Steve wrote: »

Fully agree - Gabber was ruined when hardstyle came along and the likes of Angerfist went all synthy.

It's called Hardcore and it actually exploded more and more in the early 2000
s,it was considered dead in the late 90's now there are multiple 30,000 plus raves everywhere in Holland catering for all styles of hardcore,so infact your opinion of it has changed but the scene has thrived thats all.

Ya im into Mainstream,maybe becuase i'm a knacker at heart but if you want to talk about real hardcore and stop mentioning the words hardstyle/techno/gabber then you want to talk about the broad genre of Industrial Hardcore,here are some examples-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkRqA_GG22U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrWJtwtItuE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-6vaWDJWCo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqkwKSI5B7k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL9ou6gVpWY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GxFX25_Yy8

All different sounds,some almost breakcore like,ambient,dark,atmospheric,mystical-Industrial Hardcore