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Complusory Purchase Order of Lambay Island?

  • 21-07-2010 03:36PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭


    Why in 2010 is the largest island off the east coast of Ireland still inaccessible to Irish people and under the control of members of the “British elite” who only visit the island occasionally? This island could be a major boost to the economy with all the tourists it would attract. It’s Scuba Diving grounds, its wildlife, it’s wallabies!! Obviously purchasing the island in the current climate would be difficult (although I feel in the long run it would create numerous tourist related jobs and generate income), however, why wasn’t a CPO put on it during the boom??? People in Ireland seem to have just accepted that a jewel of the east coast has always been inaccessible to them. This country will never progress unless creative and daring action is taken by the Government. There’s only so long tourists can be fooled into visiting the rat infested rock that is Ireland’s eye. Lambay island has the potential to be a goldmine, but no-one in Government has the balls to CPO it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Sykk


    This thread is going places.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,379 ✭✭✭Smcgie


    What a wonderful idea, we could rename it FR. Ted crilly Island :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    Build an Irish Alcatraz on it


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Why in gods name would we buy something we cannot do much with?
    Don't we already have NAMA!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,030 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    Do you have any idea of the cost for maintenance of upkeep of the castle and grounds alone? Piss off would you.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf




    Rock on Lambay!.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    Biggins wrote: »
    Why in gods name would we buy something we cannot do much with?
    Don't we already have NAMA!


    It is like the time I bought a frog , hours of fun but then the inevitable..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭jackiebaron


    Carlos_Ray wrote: »
    Why in 2010 is the largest island off the east coast of Ireland still inaccessible to Irish people and under the control of members of the “British elite” who only visit the island occasionally? This island could be a major boost to the economy with all the tourists it would attract. It’s Scuba Diving grounds, its wildlife, it’s wallabies!! Obviously purchasing the island in the current climate would be difficult (although I feel in the long run it would create numerous tourist related jobs and generate income), however, why wasn’t a CPO put on it during the boom??? People in Ireland seem to have just accepted that a jewel of the east coast has always been inaccessible to them. This country will never progress unless creative and daring action is taken by the Government. There’s only so long tourists can be fooled into visiting the rat infested rock that is Ireland’s eye. Lambay island has the potential to be a goldmine, but no-one in Government has the balls to CPO it.


    So invade the f*ckin' thing then and then declare squatter's rights. Can't call the cops. Can't call the Brits


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    Honestly, if the lack of a 2.5km island in the public property portfolio is the only thing holding this country back, then that's pretty pathetic of us.

    To put it in context, Ireland is 85k square km. Anything people can do on Lambay they can do elsewhere in Ireland.

    Silly idea is silly imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    Why? Put tourists there and the wildlife will start to die out. It would never make that much money really anyway.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭Carlos_Ray


    Biggins wrote: »
    Why in gods name would we buy something we cannot do much with?
    !

    Thats exaclty our problem. Nobody seems to have any creativity in this country at all. The boom was the worst thing that could happen to us becuase people made money by doing nothing. Buying property cheap and selling it when it was worth more. We have created a generation of lazy, unispired moaners. If that island was off any other country I guarantee they would utilise it. It has amazing wild life, scenery, scuba diving areas. Plenty could be done with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Why? Put tourists there and the wildlife will start to die out. It would never make that much money really anyway.

    Your just raging its not off Cark - give us back Spike yiz shower of redneck feckers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    The largest island off the east coast of Ireland is UK, and I don't want it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    Your just raging its not off Cark - give us back Spike yiz shower of redneck feckers.

    Ye can have spike, but ye have to take cobh with it! It's a joint purchase, price €0.01. Just to make it a proper business deal! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    Your just raging its not off Cark - give us back Spike yiz shower of redneck feckers.

    Isn't Spike full of scummers on holiday at our expence?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 369 ✭✭Michael B


    I'm looking out at it now. I'm glad it's not a big tourist spot, I couldn't think of anything worse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    Kasabian wrote: »
    Isn't Spike full of scummers on holiday at our expence?

    No longer a prison.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭Carlos_Ray


    Nevore wrote: »
    Honestly, if the lack of a 2.5km island in the public property portfolio is the only thing holding this country back, then that's pretty pathetic of us.

    To put it in context, Ireland is 85k square km. Anything people can do on Lambay they can do elsewhere in Ireland.

    Silly idea is silly imo.


    Islands, as a geograhpical feature, are an attraction. Comparing it to the rest of Ireland is silly in my opinion. But of course nobody in this country would support utilising it, creativity and hard work are two things that modern day Ireland knows nothing about


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    It's a chunk of private property, why do you think you deserve access to it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,379 ✭✭✭Smcgie


    Why? Put tourists there and the wildlife will start to die out. It would never make that much money really anyway.

    WRONG! Lambay is rich in minerals and hydrocarbons off coast that the british lay claim to.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Carlos_Ray wrote: »
    Thats exaclty our problem. Nobody seems to have any creativity in this country at all. The boom was the worst thing that could happen to us becuase people made money by doing nothing. Buying property cheap and selling it when it was worth more. We have created a generation of lazy, unispired moaners. If that island was off any other country I guarantee they would utilise it. It has amazing wild life, scenery, scuba diving areas. Plenty could be done with it.
    Far as I know there are preservation orders on it regarding the wildlife that is on it and there are European protection orders applying too.
    There are some rare, ecology creatures living on it I remember seeing some time back in an Irish documentary.

    So beside breaking laws and slapping buildings everywhere there is a decency of green space, and it being of no further advantage to do just that - I don't agree with you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭Carlos_Ray


    Do you have any idea of the cost for maintenance of upkeep of the castle and grounds alone? Piss off would you.


    Lol, I wonder does your mother know you're typing such language from the computer in her basement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,382 ✭✭✭Motley Crue


    This Island might be under the control of British people, but it's a family Island, and as such you can't really except someone to give up their own land...whether it's alone in the sea or not....this isn't the USSR, the state doesn't own everything

    Still privately owned by the Baring family trust, Lambay is home to an adapted medieval castle and an Edwin Lutyens-designed estate. The castle is enclosed by a sturdy circular wall which is about 4m high at the lowest point. The estate includes domestic extensions to the old castle, a village of cottages, a communal hall, two family houses, a harbour and boathouse and a distinctive open-air real tennis court, the only one remaining in Ireland (there was one in the old University College Dublin complex on Earlsfort Terrace).

    The chapel is located on an isolated promontary. Due to its deep surrounding waters, the island is a particularly popular location for scuba divers. The island is accessible, by prior permission only, from Rogerstown Harbour, 4 km away, 27 km north of Dublin, near Rush.

    Among the mammals of the island are Grey Seals (Ireland's only east-coast colony) and introduced fallow deer (a herd of about 200) and wallabies (whose ancestors were exiled to the island in the 1980s when Dublin Zoo became overcrowded).

    I'd personally like to go to be honest but the Irish Government shouldn't just steal it from someone whose owned it for centuries


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    Carlos_Ray wrote: »
    Lol, I wonder does your mother know you're typing such language from the computer in her basement.

    How many Irish people have basements? American stereotype much?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    We can rename it Malvinas and invade it. I'm sure those people on that bigger island won't care.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    Does anyone live on it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭Carlos_Ray


    How many Irish people have basements? American stereotype much?

    Most houses in my neignbourhood have basments. In fact most Georgian houses do.


    American stereotype much?


    What are you trying to say here? Could it be you're using American slang grammar? Are you trying to be ironic?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,379 ✭✭✭Smcgie


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    We can rename it Malvinas and invade it. I'm sure those people on that bigger island won't care.
    The Malvinas/Falkland Islands to some lay around one of the richest oil basins in the world. It all about the black gold. We have a similar situation with Lambay and that's why they lay claim to it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 717 ✭✭✭rubberdiddies


    would be a massive loss-making money pit if it was publicly owned.
    then we would all be cursing the government for wasting public money (again!)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    CPO? we should just take the fcuking thing back!


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