Opinion on Abortion in Ireland??

luv-eirexx · 16-07-2010 12:50AM #1

Just posted this thread to find out other people's views on abortion. It's 2010 and it is still illegal in Ireland. I don't know about anyone else but I am very glad of this.

As an 18 year old girl I hope I never have an unplanned pregnancy while I am young but stuff happens and if I ever do become pregnant I don't think I could even contemplate going over to England for an abortion. Why should that helpless baby suffer for my mistakes??

Also abortion was made illegal in the first place as it went against the Catholic Churches teachings. I know Ireland is becoming secularised and multicultural but the catholic church played a huge role in our past and still quite a large role today. It is nice to have SOME laws still in this country that reflect the faith of the majority, and not what the EU says.

I just was curious to know peoples opinion on this, pro life or pro choice in Ireland. I'm sure plenty will strongly disagree with me

brummytom · 16-07-2010 12:52AM

Oh God...

Indubitable · 16-07-2010 12:52AM

These are new and interesting topics!

A poll would be smart.

G_R · 16-07-2010 12:53AM

can open.... worms everywhere!

Indubitable · 16-07-2010 12:54AM

luv-eirexx wrote: »

It is nice to have SOME laws still in this country that reflect the faith of the majority, and not what the EU says.

The same religious institution that abuses kids?

Zombienosh · 16-07-2010 12:55AM

ABORT THIS THREAD

luv-eirexx · 16-07-2010 12:55AM

Sorry I don't mean to be annoying, I was just wondering ...

Ya a poll is a good idea:D

recylingbin · 16-07-2010 12:55AM

Abortions for some, none for others.

Aldebaran · 16-07-2010 12:56AM

Anyone care for a miniature flag?

AAAAAAAHHH · 16-07-2010 12:57AM

luv-eirexx wrote: »

I know Ireland is becoming secularised and multicultural but the catholic church played a huge role in our past

So did paganism. Why have we disregarded their laws?

G_R · 16-07-2010 12:58AM

Aldebaran wrote: »

Anyone care for a miniature flag?

is it American?

ElaElaElano · 16-07-2010 12:58AM

A woman's body is her own, it doesn't belong to the moralisers in the church or any other institution. Abortion is not and shouldn't be a social issue, it should be an individual and private issue based on circumstance.

Bonavox · 16-07-2010 12:58AM

A fetus, who is growing inside his mother's womb is under the influence it's in a safe and secure place. For a woman to decide she doesn't want the child and to kill it without it ever living in this world is murder. Simple as.

At least give the child the option of life by giving it up for adoption/fostering when it's born.

Nuggles · 16-07-2010 01:00AM

luv-eirexx wrote: »

It is nice to have SOME laws still in this country that reflect the faith of the majority.

Why? If you're not Catholic why should you be forced to follow a "Catholic" law.

Not that it is. Abortion is much more an argument about where life begins, is it murder or merely the removal of bothersome cells from one's body.

Aborting this thread is something I approve highly of though.

ronano · 16-07-2010 01:00AM

jesus christ you're coir aint you

I'm sick of this bs,abortion is happening,we send women off to another country to get it done which even if you think it's right or wrong shows it's happening. I really don't see on purely practical point why it shouldn't be introduced ignoring any 'moral' bs of course.

If you had a hope of actaully stopping abortion at least i could understand but you don't,it happens in ireland with resources and therapy if needed for women or you send them on a plane adding extra stress and no provisions afterwards for their mental health.

grrr grrr grrrr

BluesBerry · 16-07-2010 01:01AM

Down with this sort of thing !!!!! :P

recylingbin · 16-07-2010 01:01AM

ElaElaElano wrote: »

A woman's body is her own, it doesn't belong to the moralisers in the church or any other institution. Abortion is not and shouldn't be a social issue, it should be an individual and private issue based on circumstance.

I own food. It's mine. If I eat it all and deny my kid the food and he dies of hunger, is that my fault?

Mint Sauce · 16-07-2010 01:03AM

regardless of what laws we have or pass, and regardless of the constitution on the church not having an inluence, at the end of the day they always will

in relation to the act of abortion its self. personally i'm against it, unless in servere circumstance, ie rape, or the possible harm to the unborn child or mother should the pregnancy continue. but a mother and not forgeting her partner/husband, should be allowed to make their own mind, seek information, and travel for an abortion if they decide that route, therefore, pro choice.

my 2 cent and last comment on this thread

Nuggles · 16-07-2010 01:03AM

Let's hope the OP takes it up the bum, so she is never faced with this terrible decision.

luv-eirexx · 16-07-2010 01:04AM

Ok I just wanted peoples opinions and thanks to people who are actually giving them and not just saying " o god" or " abort this thread" ... Great contributions right there.*sarcasm*

ElaElaElano · 16-07-2010 01:06AM

recylingbin wrote: »

I own food. It's mine. If I eat it all and deny my kid the food and he dies of hunger, is that my fault?

It's irresponsible parenting...it's your fault for willingly bringing that child into the world if you've no intention of feeding it.

Dudess · 16-07-2010 01:09AM

I think it should be available as I can understand it in certain cases and very early on, I don't agree with it outside of those parameters though.

ElaElaElano wrote: »

A woman's body is her own, it doesn't belong to the moralisers in the church or any other institution. Abortion is not and shouldn't be a social issue, it should be an individual and private issue based on circumstance.

What about the father of the baby?

Bonavox wrote: »

A fetus, who is growing inside his mother's womb is under the influence it's in a safe and secure place. For a woman to decide she doesn't want the child and to kill it without it ever living in this world is murder. Simple as.

At least give the child the option of life by giving it up for adoption/fostering when it's born.

What about if it's the result of rape?

brummytom · 16-07-2010 01:09AM

luv-eirexx wrote: »

Ok I just wanted peoples opinions and thanks to people who are actually giving them and not just saying " o god" or " abort this thread" ... Great contributions right there.*sarcasm*

Sorry for ruining your thread so much.

I don't agree with abortion in any case, with the one exception of an ectopic pregnancy (where the principle of double effect comes into play) in all other circumstances, I see it as murder. I don't care that people hate me thinking that, to be perfectly honest.

recylingbin · 16-07-2010 01:10AM

ElaElaElano wrote: »

It's irresponsible parenting...it's your fault for willingly bringing that child into the world if you've no intention of feeding it.

Is it more or less responsible that I wait until the child has been born to kill it?

ElaElaElano · 16-07-2010 01:13AM

Dudess wrote: »

What about the father of the baby?

Well if it's your everyday happy couple who've just been careless in not using contraception for example, that's a different issue altogether. In that case it's needless and the father would have every right to his say, but my initial point was mainly from the perspective of a girl who'd been raped- I should have made that clearer, sorry.

storm2811 · 16-07-2010 01:15AM

I'm pro choice anyway.
This kind of thing has been discussed before here and a lot of people already no my views so..

strobe · 16-07-2010 01:17AM

Dudess wrote: »

What about the father of the baby?

I'm just curious about that Dudess; Do you think the father should have a say, how much of a say? What about in the opposite situation where the woman wants to keep the baby but the man wants her to abort it? Same amount of a say?

magick · 16-07-2010 01:18AM

If a woman wants an abortion, she will get one.

Mr Benevolent · 16-07-2010 01:18AM

Crap poll, needs a 'neither' and 'Abortion Jaguar' option.

recylingbin wrote: »

Is it more or less responsible that I wait until the child has been born to kill it?

It's about the same.

Snowie · 16-07-2010 01:22AM

My personal Opinion is

Who are we to decide on some one else future for our own beliefs..
Its completely unfair that, decisions are made based on personal opinions....

When some of those people may never be in that position.
It should be up to the woman where and what happens with her and her life.
We may not be in that persons position... We don't know there position is financially etc .
I dont think there's anything wrong with abortion. I do think there something wrong with the fact that women who decide that they have no other choice but to fly to another country to have one...

While yes each time that girl walks past a mother and baby she may or may not remember her decision but its her decision and one that under the rigfht grounds can be justified. I think its every persons woman choice.

Obviously if the lady in question had a bf/husband they should have the right to be included...

Irish Guitarist · 16-07-2010 01:23AM

I voted pro life. Maybe you should have a third option though as I can see why a woman should have an abortion under certain circumstances, for instance if her life is at risk. I don't agree with women having an abortion because they just don't want a child. I think the likes of Sinead O'Connor is a disgrace. I've seen women (mainly Americans) in other forums say they were happily married but they had an abortion because they weren't ready to have a child. Usually everyone responds to them saying how great they are.

I definitely don't agree with aborting a child because they're going to suffer from a condition such as Downs syndrome or any other disability.

I think this thread is a lot better than ninety percent of the discussions in this forum and I don't get what's going on with the hostility.

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