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What is the Twelfth of July about ?

  • 11-07-2010 04:39PM
    #1
    po020435
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12 ✭po020435


    Does celebrating the victory of a Dutch King supported by the Pope over a British one have any cultural or religious significance ? Or is it just a day off for the orangemen to wear sashes and union Jack hats, listen to endless reditions of the Sash My Father Wore, get completely wasted with drink and then puke their guts out ?


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  • #2
    TheZohanS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    It's a party, everyone's invited.

    Kinda like a pants party.


  • #3
    po020435
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12 ✭po020435


    TheZohan wrote: »
    It's a party, everyone's invited.

    Kinda like a pants party.
    Is it ok for the Pope to attend ?


  • #4
    Max Power1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    Its a big orangeman-english people circle jerk tbh


  • #5
    sligopark
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    Rosskowlagh - a day out and fun

    N. Ireland - keeping the taigs in their place


  • #6
    NothingMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    It's a Monday this year. I'm in work. I might have pasta for dinner and try get an early night.


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  • #7
    TheZohanS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    po020435 wrote: »
    Is it ok for the Pope to attend ?

    Hystorically Popes have been great craic at these parties.


  • #8
    longshanks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭longshanks


    its about seven hours away


  • #9
    SoupyNorman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,257 ✭✭✭SoupyNorman


    po020435 wrote: »
    Is it ok for the Pope to attend ?


    No because he wears a Mumu.


  • #10
    KeithM89_old
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,806 ✭✭✭✭KeithM89_old


    12th of July... Isnt that the day the ice age ended?? :)


  • #11
    po020435
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12 ✭po020435


    Max Power1 wrote: »
    Its a big orangeman-english people circle jerk tbh
    Apart from a few freaks and BNP rejects, the average English person hasn't the slightest interest or probaly knowledge of the Orange Order.


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  • #12
    the keen edge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭the keen edge


    It's an all encompassing celebration of social, religious and sexual freedom, where all races, creeds and people of every sexual orientations are welcomed.

    The celebrations conclude in a free for all, anything goes gangbang at each local orange order lodge.

    If attendance is not on your 'Things to do before I die' list, make sure to add it to it now.


  • #13
    po020435
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12 ✭po020435


    the keen edge wrote: »
    It's an all encompassing celebration of social, religious and sexual freedom, where all races, creeds and people of every sexual orientations are welcomed.

    The celebrations conclude in a free for all, anything goes gangbang at each local orange order lodge.

    If attendance is not on your 'Things to do before I die' list, make sure to add it to it now.
    Iris Robinson would be on for that !!!!


  • #14
    Pauleta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,778 ✭✭✭Pauleta


    Its a day where loyalists have an excuse to get really drunk and to wind up republicans and republicans have an excuse to get really drunk and attack the police. All in all everyone is happy by the end of it despite what they try to make you believe.


  • #15
    the keen edge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭the keen edge


    po020435 wrote: »
    Iris Robinson would be on for that !!!!

    I once met Iris Robinson.
    When I say met, I mean
    ****
    ed her.

    She promised me money, I never received it.


  • #16
    Mac Masters
    Closed Accounts Posts: 423 ✭✭Mac Masters


    TheZohan wrote: »
    Hystorically Popes have been great craic at these parties.

    I miss John Paul.

    The new guy reminds me a bit too much of somebody. Plus he doesn't look like he'd be much fun at a party.


  • #17
    futonic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭futonic


    sligopark wrote: »
    Rosskowlagh - a day out and fun

    N. Ireland - keeping the taigs in their place

    Rossnowlagh... growing up 3 miles away from, it's not that much fun, believe me.


  • #18
    po020435
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12 ✭po020435


    Pauleta wrote: »
    Its a day where loyalists have an excuse to get really drunk and to wind up republicans and republicans have an excuse to get really drunk and attack the police. All in all everyone is happy by the end of it despite what they try to make you believe.
    Don't most Catholics, and some Protestants, come down here for a few days or have the Med holiday to get away from it ?


  • #19
    mikemac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,968 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    po020435 wrote: »
    Don't most Catholics, and some Protestants, come down here for a few days or have the Med holiday to get away from it ?

    Correct.
    It's a busy time for hotels and B&B's in Ireland, people desert the North and a take a long weekend break.


  • #20
    sligopark
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    feelingstressed wrote: »
    Correct.
    It's a busy time for hotels and B&B's in Ireland, people desert the North and a take a long weekend break.

    because of the tramps marching up North and intimadating the other half of their community. At least Rossnowlagh is a family event.


  • #21
    stupidusername
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    It's all a bit silly really I'd say. It's about making a point. Although I've no idea what that point is. And I don't care to know.


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  • #22
    longshanks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭longshanks


    its about 6 hours away now


  • #23
    longshanks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭longshanks


    its about 5 hours away


  • #24
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    the twelfth isn't an english holiday,its a protestant holiday.


  • #25
    strobe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    the twelfth isn't an english holiday,its a protestant holiday.

    Do they celebrate it in the American midwest? How about in Sweden? It has nothing to do with protestantism. It is not an Irish holiday, or an English holiday, or a protestant holiday. It is a sectarian holiday, nothing more.


  • #26
    bnt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,177 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    strobe wrote: »
    Do they celebrate it in the American midwest? How about in Sweden? It has nothing to do with protestantism. It is not an Irish holiday, or an English holiday, or a protestant holiday. It is a sectarian holiday, nothing more.
    It happened in an era when religion was politics: of course it was "about" Protestantism, because English politics at the time was a battle of religions. The Catholic King James of England & Scotland had been deposed two years earlier (1688), replaced by the Protestant King William II, at the behest of C of E bishops.

    Part of the reason for the deposition of King James was his 1687 Declaration of Indulgence, which basically promised religious freedom in England. This didn't go down too well, since Catholics were a minority of 10% in England, and here you had a Catholic king telling the majority to behave. Bad move: by the next year he was on the run, and his final defeat at the Boyne set up the next 200 years of Protestant supremacy in Ireland.

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • #27
    Thomas828
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭Thomas828


    TheZohan wrote: »
    It's a party, everyone's invited.

    Kinda like a pants party.

    Yes, everyone who's British and Protestant is invited. But if you're not British or you're not Protestant then f*** off!


  • #28
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    strobe wrote: »
    Do they celebrate it in the American midwest? How about in Sweden? It has nothing to do with protestantism. It is not an Irish holiday, or an English holiday, or a protestant holiday. It is a sectarian holiday, nothing more.

    yes in fact,the orange lodges do.


  • #29
    sligopark
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    bnt wrote: »
    his final defeat at the Boyne set up the next 200 years of Protestant supremacy in Ireland.

    try 310


  • #30
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    sligopark wrote: »
    try 310

    do you have any notion that some of the most influential and important figures in Irish history were in fact protestant?


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  • #31
    omen80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 639 ✭✭✭omen80


    The 12th of July is about a bunch of men walking around northern ireland with orange sachets around their necks. Hope it rains!


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