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What is the Twelfth of July about ?

po020435

Does celebrating the victory of a Dutch King supported by the Pope over a British one have any cultural or religious significance ? Or is it just a day off for the orangemen to wear sashes and union Jack hats, listen to endless reditions of the Sash My Father Wore, get completely wasted with drink and then puke their guts out ?

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TheZohanS

It's a party, everyone's invited.

Kinda like a pants party.

po020435

TheZohan wrote: »

It's a party, everyone's invited.

Kinda like a pants party.

Is it ok for the Pope to attend ?

Max Power1

Its a big orangeman-english people circle jerk tbh

sligopark

Rosskowlagh - a day out and fun

N. Ireland - keeping the taigs in their place

NothingMan

It's a Monday this year. I'm in work. I might have pasta for dinner and try get an early night.

TheZohanS

po020435 wrote: »

Is it ok for the Pope to attend ?

Hystorically Popes have been great craic at these parties.

longshanks

its about seven hours away

SoupyNorman

po020435 wrote: »

Is it ok for the Pope to attend ?

No because he wears a Mumu.

KeithM89_old

12th of July... Isnt that the day the ice age ended??

po020435

Max Power1 wrote: »

Its a big orangeman-english people circle jerk tbh

Apart from a few freaks and BNP rejects, the average English person hasn't the slightest interest or probaly knowledge of the Orange Order.

the keen edge

It's an all encompassing celebration of social, religious and sexual freedom, where all races, creeds and people of every sexual orientations are welcomed.

The celebrations conclude in a free for all, anything goes gangbang at each local orange order lodge.

If attendance is not on your 'Things to do before I die' list, make sure to add it to it now.

po020435

the keen edge wrote: »

It's an all encompassing celebration of social, religious and sexual freedom, where all races, creeds and people of every sexual orientations are welcomed.

The celebrations conclude in a free for all, anything goes gangbang at each local orange order lodge.

If attendance is not on your 'Things to do before I die' list, make sure to add it to it now.

Iris Robinson would be on for that !!!!

Pauleta

Its a day where loyalists have an excuse to get really drunk and to wind up republicans and republicans have an excuse to get really drunk and attack the police. All in all everyone is happy by the end of it despite what they try to make you believe.

the keen edge

po020435 wrote: »

Iris Robinson would be on for that !!!!

I once met Iris Robinson.
When I say met, I mean

****

ed her.

She promised me money, I never received it.

Mac Masters

TheZohan wrote: »

Hystorically Popes have been great craic at these parties.

I miss John Paul.

The new guy reminds me a bit too much of somebody. Plus he doesn't look like he'd be much fun at a party.

futonic

sligopark wrote: »

Rosskowlagh - a day out and fun

N. Ireland - keeping the taigs in their place

Rossnowlagh... growing up 3 miles away from, it's not that much fun, believe me.

po020435

Pauleta wrote: »

Its a day where loyalists have an excuse to get really drunk and to wind up republicans and republicans have an excuse to get really drunk and attack the police. All in all everyone is happy by the end of it despite what they try to make you believe.

Don't most Catholics, and some Protestants, come down here for a few days or have the Med holiday to get away from it ?

mikemac

po020435 wrote: »

Don't most Catholics, and some Protestants, come down here for a few days or have the Med holiday to get away from it ?

Correct.
It's a busy time for hotels and B&B's in Ireland, people desert the North and a take a long weekend break.

sligopark

feelingstressed wrote: »

Correct.
It's a busy time for hotels and B&B's in Ireland, people desert the North and a take a long weekend break.

because of the tramps marching up North and intimadating the other half of their community. At least Rossnowlagh is a family event.

stupidusername

It's all a bit silly really I'd say. It's about making a point. Although I've no idea what that point is. And I don't care to know.

longshanks

its about 6 hours away now

longshanks

its about 5 hours away

Celly Smunt

the twelfth isn't an english holiday,its a protestant holiday.

strobe

pmcmahon wrote: »

the twelfth isn't an english holiday,its a protestant holiday.

Do they celebrate it in the American midwest? How about in Sweden? It has nothing to do with protestantism. It is not an Irish holiday, or an English holiday, or a protestant holiday. It is a sectarian holiday, nothing more.

bnt

strobe wrote: »

Do they celebrate it in the American midwest? How about in Sweden? It has nothing to do with protestantism. It is not an Irish holiday, or an English holiday, or a protestant holiday. It is a sectarian holiday, nothing more.

It happened in an era when religion was politics: of course it was "about" Protestantism, because English politics at the time was a battle of religions. The Catholic King James of England & Scotland had been deposed two years earlier (1688), replaced by the Protestant King William II, at the behest of C of E bishops.

Part of the reason for the deposition of King James was his 1687 Declaration of Indulgence, which basically promised religious freedom in England. This didn't go down too well, since Catholics were a minority of 10% in England, and here you had a Catholic king telling the majority to behave. Bad move: by the next year he was on the run, and his final defeat at the Boyne set up the next 200 years of Protestant supremacy in Ireland.

Thomas828

TheZohan wrote: »

It's a party, everyone's invited.

Kinda like a pants party.

Yes, everyone who's British and Protestant is invited. But if you're not British or you're not Protestant then f*** off!

Celly Smunt

strobe wrote: »

Do they celebrate it in the American midwest? How about in Sweden? It has nothing to do with protestantism. It is not an Irish holiday, or an English holiday, or a protestant holiday. It is a sectarian holiday, nothing more.

yes in fact,the orange lodges do.

sligopark

bnt wrote: »

his final defeat at the Boyne set up the next 200 years of Protestant supremacy in Ireland.

try 310

Celly Smunt

sligopark wrote: »

try 310

do you have any notion that some of the most influential and important figures in Irish history were in fact protestant?

omen80

The 12th of July is about a bunch of men walking around northern ireland with orange sachets around their necks. Hope it rains!