Passport as gaelge

Buachaillin · 04-07-2010 05:24PM #1

We have all heard the story of the fella who got his passport changed to the Irish language version in order to avoid the taxman / immigration etc.
Anybody got any real life experience with this - is it straight forward / what is involved. Experiencing some immigration problems abroad and am considering every route!!!!

Motley Crue · 04-07-2010 05:26PM

Buachaillin wrote: »

We have all heard the story of the fella who got his passport changed to the Irish language version in order to avoid the taxman / immigration etc.
Anybody got any real life experience with this - is it straight forward / what is involved. Experiencing some immigration problems abroad and am considering every route!!!!

Is this even possible? Would you not have to legally change your name to the Irish spelling and then apply for a new passport?

Steyr · 04-07-2010 05:26PM

Gaeilge.

Leeg17 · 04-07-2010 05:26PM

An bhfuil cead agaim dul go dti an leithreas?

Motley Crue · 04-07-2010 05:28PM

Leeg17 wrote: »

An bhfuil cead agaim dul go dti an leithreas?

I used to know a guy who could ask "Teacher, can I go to the toilet because I have the screaming ****s" in Gaeilge

orourkeda · 04-07-2010 05:30PM

Ta se ag cur baiste your ma

Buachaillin · 04-07-2010 05:36PM

Leeg17 wrote: »

An bhfuil cead agaim dul go dti an leithreas?

Nil

Baile an Locha · 04-07-2010 05:36PM

AFAIK Any citizen of Ireland can use the Irish equivalent of their name. I use it for Age Cards etc. So give it a go!

Buachaillin · 04-07-2010 05:38PM

Motley Crue wrote: »

Is this even possible? Would you not have to legally change your name to the Irish spelling and then apply for a new passport?

Hence my question. Surely someone has made an effort to do this before. I have herd of "friends of friends" - but nobody real.

Ruu_Old · 04-07-2010 05:41PM

Ca bhfuil mo geansai?!?!

KeithM89_old · 04-07-2010 05:44PM

Póg mo thóin

brummytom · 04-07-2010 05:45PM

Óró sé do bheathe bhaile

It's the only Irish I can spell

xOxSinéadxOx · 04-07-2010 05:48PM

I doubt you can get your passport as gaeilge. They didn't even put the fada on my name even though I put it on the application form

kelle · 04-07-2010 05:49PM

brummytom wrote: »

Óró sé do bheatha bhaile

It's the only Irish I can spell

FYP:D

dr.bollocko · 04-07-2010 05:51PM

Gaylge.
It's all I got.

IvySlayer · 04-07-2010 05:52PM

Ard-Leibhéal - Cuid A

Léigh anois go Cúramanch do scrúidpáipear na i treoracha, agus go ceisteanna, a gabhann le Cuíd A.

I think that's it, have that memorised.

Mike 1972 · 04-07-2010 05:55PM

Arent all Irish passports printed in Gaelic, English and (for some reason) French

Unless we are talking about a UK passport ???????

Standard Toaster · 04-07-2010 05:59PM

If you want to use it to get back into Australia after using your WHV visa it doesn't work.

Ruu_Old · 04-07-2010 06:03PM

IvySlayer wrote: »

Ard-Leibhéal - Cuid A

Léigh anois go Cúramanch do scrúidpáipear na i treoracha, agus go ceisteanna, a gabhann le Cuíd A.

I think that's it, have that memorised.

This part..Cuidge AHHHH!

Blackjack · 04-07-2010 06:08PM

Motley Crue wrote: »

Is this even possible? Would you not have to legally change your name to the Irish spelling and then apply for a new passport?

Yes its possible, and no you don't have to change your name.

Mountjoy Mugger · 04-07-2010 06:12PM

Does it not have to match your name on the birth cert?

Blackjack · 04-07-2010 06:19PM

Mountjoy Mugger wrote: »

Does it not have to match your name on the birth cert?

No, not as long as your Name as Gaeilge or English is the appropriate translation of whats on your birth Cert.

EDIT - actually - there may not be a need for the translation to be correct- it could be that they use a form of "Given Name" instead of Birth Cert name, as in "Paddy" instead of Patrick.
Forms are below, and is specifies you confirm what name you want on your passport, versus what name is on your birth Cert, and if its different, do you also want to include the name on your birth Cert.

http://www.dfa.ie/uploads/documents/Passport_documents/aps1e.pdf

Not sure what criteria they use to determine how far you can go with this to be honest.

Cathaoirleach · 04-07-2010 06:25PM

Buachaillin wrote: »

Anybody got any real life experience with this - is it straight forward / what is involved. Experiencing some immigration problems abroad and am considering every route!!!!

You have to change your name via Deed Pole and then apply for a new passport. Go to the Deed Poll Section in the Four Courts and they will give you the info you need.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/birth-family-relationships/problems-in-marriages-and-relationships/changing_your_name_by_deed_poll

Blackjack · 04-07-2010 06:29PM

Cathaoirleach wrote: »

You have to change your name via Deed Pole and then apply for a new passport. Go to the Deed Poll Section in the Four Courts and they will give you the info you need.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/birth-family-relationships/problems-in-marriages-and-relationships/changing_your_name_by_deed_poll

Thats not true.

My own passport, and pretty much every official document I have uses the Irish version of my name, yet my Birth Cert has the english version of my name.

I've never had any hassle with this, even when living and working abroad.

monosharp · 04-07-2010 06:29PM

Cathaoirleach wrote: »

You have to change your name via Deed Pole and then apply for a new passport.

No you don't. You just have to apply for a new passport using your name as gaeilge on the application form.

I had to do it in reverse, was as gaeilge but had to change to English for visa reasons.

Doesn't matter if your names in English or Irish on your birth cert. You can use either version of your name for any official documentation.

My driving license was in English, my birth cert in English, my passport (was) in Irish and I was registered to vote with the Irish version of my name.

Dravokivich · 04-07-2010 06:31PM

My mate has his name in Irish on his Passport. American Border patrol found it a bit confusing :P

No hoops to jump through as far as I can recall...

Edit:

Just re-read this bit of your post:

Buachaillin wrote: »

Experiencing some immigration problems abroad and am considering every route!!!!

Another country isn't letting you in and you want us to advise how you can get around that?

brianthebard · 04-07-2010 06:37PM

Buachaillin wrote: »

We have all heard the story of ....

I haven't. I think you dreamt this up OP.

caseyann · 04-07-2010 06:37PM

Buachaillin wrote: »

We have all heard the story of the fella who got his passport changed to the Irish language version in order to avoid the taxman / immigration etc.
Anybody got any real life experience with this - is it straight forward / what is involved. Experiencing some immigration problems abroad and am considering every route!!!!

Are you a spy trying to escape,dont tell me we are going to have to expel another foreign diplomat

What country are you encountering difficulties with? Might help a little with how you can be advised.

Cac an asail · 04-07-2010 06:49PM

I would be interested in doing this for cultural reasons, but there's a problem..

My father and I have the same forename and middlename. His official name on State documents is in Irish and mine is in English. If I was to change my name to Irish, it would cause confusion - same name, same address, etc.

Any Irish-speakers know how I would differentiate my name from my father's?

I know in the Gaeltacht, the son uses Óg after his firstname if his father's name is the same. Would that be the best way to diffrentiate names?

Maybe I shouldn't be asking here..

Thomas828 · 04-07-2010 11:35PM

/logs in as Tómas a Ocht Dó Ocht

starbelgrade · 04-07-2010 11:38PM

Buachaillin wrote: »

We have all heard the story of the fella who got his passport changed to the Irish language version in order to avoid the taxman

I heard about a fella who managed to avoid the taxman for years after he changed his PRSI number to Irish.

Passport as gaelge

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