Passport as gaelge

Buachaillin

We have all heard the story of the fella who got his passport changed to the Irish language version in order to avoid the taxman / immigration etc.
Anybody got any real life experience with this - is it straight forward / what is involved. Experiencing some immigration problems abroad and am considering every route!!!!

Motley Crue

Buachaillin wrote: »

We have all heard the story of the fella who got his passport changed to the Irish language version in order to avoid the taxman / immigration etc.
Anybody got any real life experience with this - is it straight forward / what is involved. Experiencing some immigration problems abroad and am considering every route!!!!

Is this even possible? Would you not have to legally change your name to the Irish spelling and then apply for a new passport?

Steyr

Gaeilge.

Leeg17

An bhfuil cead agaim dul go dti an leithreas?

Motley Crue

Leeg17 wrote: »

An bhfuil cead agaim dul go dti an leithreas?

I used to know a guy who could ask "Teacher, can I go to the toilet because I have the screaming ****s" in Gaeilge

orourkeda

Ta se ag cur baiste your ma

Buachaillin

Leeg17 wrote: »

An bhfuil cead agaim dul go dti an leithreas?

Nil

Baile an Locha

AFAIK Any citizen of Ireland can use the Irish equivalent of their name. I use it for Age Cards etc. So give it a go!

Buachaillin

Motley Crue wrote: »

Is this even possible? Would you not have to legally change your name to the Irish spelling and then apply for a new passport?

Hence my question. Surely someone has made an effort to do this before. I have herd of "friends of friends" - but nobody real.

Ruu_Old

Ca bhfuil mo geansai?!?!

KeithM89_old

Póg mo thóin

brummytom

Óró sé do bheathe bhaile



It's the only Irish I can spell

xOxSinéadxOx

I doubt you can get your passport as gaeilge. They didn't even put the fada on my name even though I put it on the application form

kelle

brummytom wrote: »

Óró sé do bheatha bhaile



It's the only Irish I can spell

FYP:D

dr.bollocko

Gaylge.
It's all I got.

IvySlayer

Ard-Leibhéal - Cuid A

Léigh anois go Cúramanch do scrúidpáipear na i treoracha, agus go ceisteanna, a gabhann le Cuíd A.

I think that's it, have that memorised.

Mike 1972

Arent all Irish passports printed in Gaelic, English and (for some reason) French

Unless we are talking about a UK passport ???????

Standard Toaster

If you want to use it to get back into Australia after using your WHV visa it doesn't work.

Ruu_Old

IvySlayer wrote: »

Ard-Leibhéal - Cuid A

Léigh anois go Cúramanch do scrúidpáipear na i treoracha, agus go ceisteanna, a gabhann le Cuíd A.

I think that's it, have that memorised.

This part..Cuidge AHHHH!

Blackjack

Motley Crue wrote: »

Is this even possible? Would you not have to legally change your name to the Irish spelling and then apply for a new passport?

Yes its possible, and no you don't have to change your name.

Mountjoy Mugger

Does it not have to match your name on the birth cert?

Blackjack

Mountjoy Mugger wrote: »

Does it not have to match your name on the birth cert?

No, not as long as your Name as Gaeilge or English is the appropriate translation of whats on your birth Cert.

EDIT - actually - there may not be a need for the translation to be correct- it could be that they use a form of "Given Name" instead of Birth Cert name, as in "Paddy" instead of Patrick.
Forms are below, and is specifies you confirm what name you want on your passport, versus what name is on your birth Cert, and if its different, do you also want to include the name on your birth Cert.

http://www.dfa.ie/uploads/documents/Passport_documents/aps1e.pdf

Not sure what criteria they use to determine how far you can go with this to be honest.

Cathaoirleach

Buachaillin wrote: »

Anybody got any real life experience with this - is it straight forward / what is involved. Experiencing some immigration problems abroad and am considering every route!!!!

You have to change your name via Deed Pole and then apply for a new passport. Go to the Deed Poll Section in the Four Courts and they will give you the info you need.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/birth-family-relationships/problems-in-marriages-and-relationships/changing_your_name_by_deed_poll

Blackjack

Cathaoirleach wrote: »

You have to change your name via Deed Pole and then apply for a new passport. Go to the Deed Poll Section in the Four Courts and they will give you the info you need.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/birth-family-relationships/problems-in-marriages-and-relationships/changing_your_name_by_deed_poll

Thats not true.

My own passport, and pretty much every official document I have uses the Irish version of my name, yet my Birth Cert has the english version of my name.

I've never had any hassle with this, even when living and working abroad.

monosharp

Cathaoirleach wrote: »

You have to change your name via Deed Pole and then apply for a new passport.

No you don't. You just have to apply for a new passport using your name as gaeilge on the application form.

I had to do it in reverse, was as gaeilge but had to change to English for visa reasons.

Doesn't matter if your names in English or Irish on your birth cert. You can use either version of your name for any official documentation.

My driving license was in English, my birth cert in English, my passport (was) in Irish and I was registered to vote with the Irish version of my name.

Dravokivich

My mate has his name in Irish on his Passport. American Border patrol found it a bit confusing :P

No hoops to jump through as far as I can recall...

Edit:

Just re-read this bit of your post:

Buachaillin wrote: »

Experiencing some immigration problems abroad and am considering every route!!!!

Another country isn't letting you in and you want us to advise how you can get around that?

brianthebard

Buachaillin wrote: »

We have all heard the story of ....

I haven't. I think you dreamt this up OP.

caseyann

Buachaillin wrote: »

We have all heard the story of the fella who got his passport changed to the Irish language version in order to avoid the taxman / immigration etc.
Anybody got any real life experience with this - is it straight forward / what is involved. Experiencing some immigration problems abroad and am considering every route!!!!

Are you a spy trying to escape,dont tell me we are going to have to expel another foreign diplomat

What country are you encountering difficulties with? Might help a little with how you can be advised.

Cac an asail

I would be interested in doing this for cultural reasons, but there's a problem..

My father and I have the same forename and middlename. His official name on State documents is in Irish and mine is in English. If I was to change my name to Irish, it would cause confusion - same name, same address, etc.

Any Irish-speakers know how I would differentiate my name from my father's?

I know in the Gaeltacht, the son uses Óg after his firstname if his father's name is the same. Would that be the best way to diffrentiate names?

Maybe I shouldn't be asking here..

Thomas828

/logs in as Tómas a Ocht Dó Ocht

starbelgrade

Buachaillin wrote: »

We have all heard the story of the fella who got his passport changed to the Irish language version in order to avoid the taxman

I heard about a fella who managed to avoid the taxman for years after he changed his PRSI number to Irish.

CreepingDeath

Buachaillin wrote: »

We have all heard the story of the fella who got his passport changed to the Irish language version in order to avoid the taxman / immigration etc.

Did he just come up to Dublin today for the match ?

caseyann

He is a spy he didnt stick around

YourName

I worked in the passport office previously, you need to be able to prove that you have been using this name for more than two years for it to be on your passport. They will also put your name from your birth cert on your passport, as that is technically your legal name. Also it will cause alarm bells if you want to change your name from what was on your previous passport, you will have to have a legitiamte reason, and proof that you use this name regularly for two or more years.

Deed Poll causes all sorts of problems too as you havn't had that name for two years either, also your previous name will allways be on your passport too.

Rock and a hard place my friend, might be easier to sort out the problems your having with entry to that country thatn try go around it.

El Siglo

I've posted this video before, so I'll do it again because using the Irish translation of your name can be quite precarious...;)
"Micheál Ó Súilleabháin is ainm dom."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC7MZSkEQEg

gingelion

Ta do mhamai i ngra le caca cais.

ElaElaElano

Is é mo thuraim, go bhfuil faighin ar abhas ar fád ag do bean chéile. Oh, an craic a bhí agaimse leis sin...duirt sí nach raibh sí abalta a chreidimh cád a bhí ag tarlú "síos ansin", now bhféidir is é do bod, y'know, atá níos lú na mo méirín beag...

This is official language. You will be fine once you repeat this.

gingelion

Is mise bart simpson. Ta m'athair, Homer, ag obair sa staisiun nuicleach.

Dostoevsky

Buachaillin wrote: »

We have all heard the story of the fella who got his passport changed to the Irish language version in order to avoid the taxman / immigration etc.
Anybody got any real life experience with this - is it straight forward / what is involved. Experiencing some immigration problems abroad and am considering every route!!!!

I put my passport in the Irish when I was in my late teens, but after I had visited the States once. When I presented my new Irish passport to the US immigration guy in Dublin airport he was able to tell me my name in English from his previous records so in this case anyway there must have been some numerical link between each passport.

* I did not, I should add given this context, put my name in the Irish to avoid anybody but rather because I liked, and now love, Irish and at the time I thought it was embarrassing for me to be using a name the English gave my family when my family has its own name which has a long, meaningful and proud history. Edward Said's Orientalism, where he points out the coloniser's need to control the representation of the native via changing surnames, placenames etc was my turning point.

El Siglo

Cá bhfuil Mo dheinims dubha, agus M'Umbro Top?

civis_liberalis

I changed the name on my passport to English as it has caused me hassle in the past. It doesn't match up with my birth cert name as I was born in London and was registered with an English version of my name.

El Siglo

Dostoevsky wrote: »

That scene had people in tears when I saw it in Cineworld. Easily the most poignant in the entire movie.

Grrrr - I can just hear a certain type of person go mad at the word 'movie' instead of 'film'.

But I said "video" and not "movie".

I too hate the word "movie", it's such an 'American-ism'.

Dostoevsky

El Siglo wrote: »

I've posted this video before, so I'll do it again because using the Irish translation of your name can be quite precarious...;)
"Micheál Ó Súilleabháin is ainm dom."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC7MZSkEQEg

That "Micheál Ó Súilleabháin is ainm dom" (05.11) scene had people in tears when I saw it in Cineworld. Easily the most poignant scene in the entire movie.

Grrrr - I can just hear a certain type of person go mad at the word 'movie' instead of 'film'.

pickarooney

Buachaillin wrote: »

We have all heard the story of the fella who got his passport changed to the Irish language version in order to avoid the taxman / immigration etc.

I haven't. Enlighten me.

El Siglo was so angry he went back in time to post that response??

YourName

El Siglo wrote: »

But I said "video" and not "movie".

I too hate the word "movie", it's such an 'American-ism'.

How did that happen.

You quoted that before it was even posted ! ! !

Dostoevsky

pickarooney wrote: »

El Siglo was so angry he went back in time to post that response??

YourName wrote: »

How did that happen.

You quoted that before it was even posted ! ! !

Magic .

brianthebard

Dostoevsky wrote: »

Edward Said's Orientalism, where he points out the coloniser's need to control the representation of the native via changing surnames, placenames etc was my turning point.

Woah woah woah, that's way to high brow for AH dude. *insert stool joke* :pac:

El Siglo

Dostoevsky wrote: »

Magic .

Eureka!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The flux capacitor worked!

Take that Gentill Abdulla!!!:D

gaeilgegrinds1

I get my tax done on the phone in less than 5 minutes every year. Everything gets done quicker through Irish in this country, fab! Even got out of a fine before as there was nobody available to talk to me about it in Irish, has served me unbelievably well. A true gift.

Buachaillin

Dravokivich wrote: »

My mate has his name in Irish on his Passport. American Border patrol found it a bit confusing :P

No hoops to jump through as far as I can recall...

Edit:

Just re-read this bit of your post:



Another country isn't letting you in and you want us to advise how you can get around that?

Minor problems in US due to Cuban stamps in passport - this is more of a nuisance than anything else. The major issue is a work permit expiring and the need to get another in a Caribbean island. Essentially there is a maximum stay of 7 years and I have reached my limit.

Buachaillin

Dostoevsky wrote: »

I put my passport in the Irish when I was in my late teens, but after I had visited the States once. When I presented my new Irish passport to the US immigration guy in Dublin airport he was able to tell me my name in English from his previous records so in this case anyway there must have been some numerical link between each passport.
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Did you have to prove that you used your gaeilge name for 2 years prior to applying as another poster suggests? That would prove difficult for me.