Funerals of people you don't know.

Ickle Magoo · 03-07-2010 03:38PM

Seloth wrote: »

Excuse me but one I did not say I heard this off relatives and two it is not anti protestant or anti English...omg are you so stuck up your own arse you think everything is an attack on others or something..jaysus your an ignorant f**K.

And I say so as I re-call my friend going on about how he was going to is grand mothers funeral 3 months after her death,and something similar with two friends of his.Same with a Scottish friend of mine as well.And to note they were all of different christian creed :P.Maybe not all months but I know f allot of funerals that are longer over there fr different custom reasons,leaving the relatives more time to accept the passing on of their friend/relative.

Seriously now, have you ever stepped outside Ireland? I'd never heard of having bodies in houses and removals and the like until moving here - if anything the average length of time from death to burial is shorter in the UK than here - months of dead bodies hanging around? Take longer to accept death in the UK? Seriously, like, WTF?!

owenc · 03-07-2010 03:40PM

Ickle Magoo wrote: »

Seriously now, have you ever stepped outside Ireland? I'd never heard of having bodies in houses and removals and the like until moving here - if anything the average length of time from death to burial is shorter in the UK than here - months of dead bodies hanging around? Take longer to accept death in the UK? Seriously, like, WTF?!

I've never heard of it either, it must be some traditional thing. Because i know no one that does that here, the catholics here don't do it either, i think it is a thing done down south only.

Elliemental · 03-07-2010 03:40PM

In the UK, the only reason a funeral would be delayed for weeks, is if there is some dispute over the cause of death; or in the case of a murder victim (in which case, the body would be preserved for forensic reasons). That is pretty much the same everywhere, as far as I know.
The UK is a religious melting pot, so it would also depends on the deceased's faith (if they have one). For instance, Muslims will be buried within 24 hours. That is hours, not months!

Caoimhín · 03-07-2010 03:41PM

I never really got that, in the UK you dont go to the funeral unless you knew the person personally or are close friends with their immediate next of kin.

In Ireland the entire parish seem to turn up. I never go unless I knew the person well.

owenc · 03-07-2010 03:41PM

Seloth wrote: »

Excuse me but one I did not say I heard this off relatives and two it is not anti protestant or anti English...omg are you so stuck up your own arse you think everything is an attack on others or something..jaysus your an ignorant f**K.

And I say so as I re-call my friend going on about how he was going to is grand mothers funeral 3 months after her death,and something similar with two friends of his.Same with a Scottish friend of mine as well.And to note they were all of different christian creed :P.Maybe not all months but I know f allot of funerals that are longer over there fr different custom reasons,leaving the relatives more time to accept the passing on of their friend/relative.

But seriously I cant get over the ignorance of owenc...Jesus your an idiot for assuming all of your accusations.What made you think it was an attack int he first place.

Don't call me a f**k again. Don't say j**** either you should be respectfull.

Wade in the Sea · 03-07-2010 03:42PM

That's one of those things old people do. I always wondered why? I figure it's cause they are bored or maybe they just gloating?

I think I'll do that when I am all old n' wrinkly. I'll have a really mad cackling laugh, swear profusely and zimmer frame my old ass up and down the aisles in a pair of pee soden pants shouting One Nil One Nil, !!!:p

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5 · 03-07-2010 03:45PM

Well I mean funerals aren't really about the feelings of the deceased are they, I doubt they care who's at their funeral what with them being dead and everything. It's about their family, and if you're close enough to a member of the family to want to support them on what may well be one of the hardest days of their life then you probably should go.

I hate funerals and tend to avoid them, thankfully I live far away from my extended family so I don't get all the "oooh your grand aunt's niece-in-law is after dying, funeral time!", but I went to a friend's dad's funeral recently because as much as I hate funerals I'm sure he probably hated his dad dying more and he seemed happy to see friends there so I'm glad I did.

Wade in the Sea · 03-07-2010 03:54PM

Irish funerals are great craic of course. Well ok maybe not if it's a parent, or your own? Usually it's all your mates, siblings and relations that you don't see that much.

I have been to funerals in other North European countries and was really surprised how somber they are. I tried to explain in Ireland it's about celebrating the life as much as mourning their passing. Apparently we are weird? Beats all that screaming they do in the middle east if you ask me.

owenc · 03-07-2010 03:57PM

Wade in the Sea wrote: »

Irish funerals are great craic of course. Well ok maybe not if it's a parent, or your own? Usually it's all your mates, siblings and relations that you don't see that much.

I have been to funerals in other North European countries and was really surprised how somber they are. I tried to explain in Ireland it's about celebrating the life as much as mourning their passing. Apparently we are weird? Beats all that screaming they do in the middle east if you ask me.

LOL you made me laugh, isn't it halarious when you see them screaming their a** off on the tv like complete freaks (no offence its just halarious).

pebbles21 · 03-07-2010 03:58PM

Seloth wrote: »

..omg are you so stuck up your own arse you think everything is an attack on others or something..jaysus your an ignorant f**K.

owenc wrote: »

Don't call me a f**k again. Don't say j**** either you should be respectfull.

:eek::eek:

*covers childs eyes*

the_barfly1 · 03-07-2010 03:58PM

What pisses me off is the local Fianna Fail TD seems to turn up at every single funeral here, i gave him a piece of my mind not long ago at a close relatives funeral because i knew for a fact that he had no connections to my family at all.
Filthy swine using somebodys death as an excuse to canvass for votes. Do your f*cking job and dont be bothering mourners.
/rant

Micky Dolenz · 03-07-2010 03:58PM

owenc wrote: »

Probably his grandmother, they are the ones to make up these pathetic rumours,they do my head in.

Please clarify the point you are trying to make here.

Caoimhín · 03-07-2010 04:04PM

owenc wrote: »

Don't say j**** either you should be respectfull.

Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus.

You wouldnt like it in Spain or South America Owen, every second man is called Jesus.

owenc · 03-07-2010 04:07PM

Caoimhín wrote: »

Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus.

You wouldnt like it in Spain or South America Owen, every second man is called Jesus.

Well that is offensive to some people.

rainbowdrop · 03-07-2010 04:07PM

Catholic funerals in England are, in my experience, conducted differently to Catholic funerals in Ireland.

When my (staunch Irish Catholic) Grandmother died in England, her funeral wasn't held for 10 days, simply due to the sheer numbers of people that die over there, she had to 'wait her turn' to be buried. There was no such thing as a 'removal' the night before, she was just taken from the funeral home to the church on the morning of her burial, and then to a huge graveyard where people of all religions are buried. It is sectioned off, so that for example Catholics are buried in one area, Jewish people in another, Protestants in another, Muslims in another area and so on......... There was maybe 100 people at the funeral, either family or friends/neighbours. My grandmother would have known every single one of them.

In contrast, when my other grandmother died here, her funeral was a traditional Irish one.... Rosary for family only the night she died, funeral home the following night, burial the next day. Hundreds attended the funeral, and I doubt very much she knew that amount of people, a lot of them would have been people that didn't know her, but knew the family, and attended as a mark of respect. I definitely prefer the Irish-Catholic way of doing things, than the English-Catholic way!!

Witcher · 03-07-2010 04:08PM

owenc wrote: »

Well that is offensive to some people.

You should go there and tell them that..give us some peace from ya:pac:

owenc · 03-07-2010 04:08PM

the_barfly1 wrote: »

What pisses me off is the local Fianna Fail TD seems to turn up at every single funeral here, i gave him a piece of my mind not long ago at a close relatives funeral because i knew for a fact that he had no connections to my family at all.
Filthy swine using somebodys death as an excuse to canvass for votes. Do your f*cking job and dont be bothering mourners.
/rant

So the local politicans turned upto your families funeral and all the other ones in the country, thats awfull

owenc · 03-07-2010 04:09PM

Blay wrote: »

You should go there and tell them that..give us some peace from ya:pac:

Naw i can't stick countries were they don't speak english its so unhoming.

Ickle Magoo · 03-07-2010 04:11PM

rainbowdrop wrote: »

Catholic funerals in England are, in my experience, conducted differently to Catholic funerals in Ireland.

When my (staunch Irish Catholic) Grandmother died in England, her funeral wasn't held for 10 days, simply due to the sheer numbers of people that die over there, she had to 'wait her turn' to be buried. There was no such thing as a 'removal' the night before, she was just taken from the funeral home to the church on the morning of her burial, and then to a huge graveyard where people of all religions are buried.

I don't know anything about english catholic funerary rights but are you sure about that being the norm? The uk has more people dying because it has a higher population, yes, but it also has more hospitals, churches, graveyards, etc to deal with it...I had a catholic friend die, a suicide actually and despite having an autopsy she had a removal and funeral within 5 days...

Witcher · 03-07-2010 04:12PM

owenc wrote: »

Naw i can't stick countries were they don't speak english its so unhoming.

lol How cultural:pac:

owenc · 03-07-2010 04:12PM

Blay wrote: »

lol how cultural:pac:

Naw everything is different and you don't know what they are saying and you can't watch tv or anything its rubbish.

Micky Dolenz · 03-07-2010 04:16PM

owenc wrote: »

Probably his grandmother, they are the ones to make up these pathetic rumours,they do my head in.

I'm waiting on you to clarify this point.

owenc · 03-07-2010 04:23PM

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

I'm waiting on you to clarify this point.

How can you clarify that? My grandmother makes up these stupid rumours about the otherside which are not nice and its usually the auld folk which spread these rumours. There is that enough. Can we foreget about this i'm sick of talking about religion.

Carl Sagan · 03-07-2010 04:24PM

Never been to a funeral. Hopefully I'll never have to go to one and everyone I know will live forever.

owenc · 03-07-2010 04:26PM

Carl Sagan wrote: »

Never been to a funeral. Hopefully I'll never have to go to one and everyone I know will live forever.

They should make something that does that i would pay for it even if it was 1 million pounds.

rainbowdrop · 03-07-2010 04:26PM

Ickle Magoo wrote: »

I don't know anything about english catholic funerary rights but are you sure about that being the norm? The uk has more people dying because it has a higher population, yes, but it also has more hospitals, churches, graveyards, etc to deal with it...I had a catholic friend die, a suicide actually and despite having an autopsy she had a removal and funeral within 5 days...

I'm not saying that's the norm, that was just my experience, it was 10 days before my grandmother was buried. When my uncle died (suicide as well), it was a week before he was buried, and a good friend who died (Leukaemia) also took a week.

Elliemental · 03-07-2010 04:30PM

rainbowdrop wrote: »

Catholic funerals in England are, in my experience, conducted differently to Catholic funerals in Ireland.

When my (staunch Irish Catholic) Grandmother died in England, her funeral wasn't held for 10 days, simply due to the sheer numbers of people that die over there, she had to 'wait her turn' to be buried. There was no such thing as a 'removal' the night before, she was just taken from the funeral home to the church on the morning of her burial, and then to a huge graveyard where people of all religions are buried. It is sectioned off, so that for example Catholics are buried in one area, Jewish people in another, Protestants in another, Muslims in another area and so on......... There was maybe 100 people at the funeral, either family or friends/neighbours. My grandmother would have known every single one of them.

In contrast, when my other grandmother died here, her funeral was a traditional Irish one.... Rosary for family only the night she died, funeral home the following night, burial the next day. Hundreds attended the funeral, and I doubt very much she knew that amount of people, a lot of them would have been people that didn't know her, but knew the family, and attended as a mark of respect. I definitely prefer the Irish-Catholic way of doing things, than the English-Catholic way!!

My Grandmother was the same, and when she died (in Liverpool), she was buried within four days. Its' not the norm for bodies to be left for weeks (in my experience). All my dead relatives were in the ground/cremated within days, rather than weeks.
As for the other poster's idea of the English dead being left for months; that is ludicrous. However, one of the more amusing misconceptions about my race/country, that I have heard.

rainbowdrop · 03-07-2010 04:35PM

owenc wrote: »

LOL you made me laugh, isn't it halarious when you see them screaming their a** off on the tv like complete freaks (no offence its just halarious).

owenc wrote: »

Naw i can't stick countries were they don't speak english its so unhoming.

owenc wrote: »

Naw everything is different and you don't know what they are saying and you can't watch tv or anything its rubbish.

Maybe you should take a leaf out of your own book owenc, and be 'respectfull' - of other people's language and culture!!

owenc · 03-07-2010 04:38PM

rainbowdrop wrote: »

Maybe you should take a leaf out of your own book owenc, and be 'respectfull' - of other people's language and culture!!

Ugh would you stop talking about religion and culture, i live in Northern Ireland and i have to listen to it everyday in school etc and it is very upsetting that people have to be separated by culture and religion, i'm sick of hearing about it.

Caoimhín · 03-07-2010 04:39PM

owenc wrote: »

Naw everything is different and you don't know what they are saying and you can't watch tv or anything its rubbish.

So open minded and cultured the people in Northern Ireland are, its no wonder there has never been any strife in the place.

Funerals of people you don't know.

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