Anti-Americanism in Ireland

27-06-2010 09:14AM

Mike 1972 wrote: »

You mean like Robert Mugabae

Do you know how the American voting system works?

owenc · 27-06-2010 09:18AM

Yes my granny hates them aswell, she basically hates everyone i like.

Mike 1972 · 27-06-2010 09:19AM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Do you know how the American voting system works?

It doesnt !

biko · 27-06-2010 09:21AM

I always lol at those vids but sure a bit of editing and asking the right people will get you the laughs.
I like America but hate American politics. It's nice to visit but I wouldn't live there.

Most Yanks are loud, gung-ho, a bit ignorant but mostly friendly - from my experience.
I'm sure if you made a few of those vids in China you'd get similar answers, but then they don't go around meddling with everyone else/trying to run the world.

27-06-2010 09:23AM

Mike 1972 wrote: »

It doesnt !

I agree there but that's what's in place. Ridiculous system tbh.

27-06-2010 09:24AM

Osu wrote: »

Being Irish-American born in the US to Irish parents this is my point of view on the avid anti-American stance in Ireland.

I find it quite funny and hilariously sad the severe Anti-American stance in Ireland. Some people I meet in Ireland have some sort of hatred towards the States. For what reason, I can't comprehend. It makes no sense at all the fact that a lot of Irish people seem to think it's okay to hate America.

It makes no sense at all. Any Anti-American topic on here seems to go down well, but any topic regarding any any-British content seems to be a taboo subject for you guys.

I can't get my head around this fact that you hate us more than you hate the British. We have been the most accepting country of Irish immigrants, we are the country who love the Irish, yet we're hated.

We have never tried to colonize your country, obviously, yet the Anti-American bias holds stronger than the anti-British bias over here. That point is merely a comparison between ourselves and the British.

Can somebody shed some light on this for me? Why are Americans hated over here?

Any great reasons?

How about the fact that your country re-elected who I and many others deem to be the most evil corrupt bastard we've saw in recent years. That's one reason anyway.

personally I don't really care though, I have a lot of friends from there.

27-06-2010 09:26AM

biko wrote: »

I'm sure if you made a few of those vids in China you'd get similar answers, but then they don't go around meddling with everyone else/trying to run the world.

Not yet :cool:

Kev_ps3 · 27-06-2010 09:29AM

Osu wrote: »

Being Irish-American born in the US to Irish parents this is my point of view on the avid anti-American stance in Ireland.

I find it quite funny and hilariously sad the severe Anti-American stance in Ireland. Some people I meet in Ireland have some sort of hatred towards the States. For what reason, I can't comprehend. It makes no sense at all the fact that a lot of Irish people seem to think it's okay to hate America.

It makes no sense at all. Any Anti-American topic on here seems to go down well, but any topic regarding any any-British content seems to be a taboo subject for you guys.

I can't get my head around this fact that you hate us more than you hate the British. We have been the most accepting country of Irish immigrants, we are the country who love the Irish, yet we're hated.

We have never tried to colonize your country, obviously, yet the Anti-American bias holds stronger than the anti-British bias over here. That point is merely a comparison between ourselves and the British.

Can somebody shed some light on this for me? Why are Americans hated over here?

Any great reasons?

boards.ie After Hours does not reflect Irish society in the slightest. This place is full of west-brits so naturally will be pro-English. The anti-American thing comes from how America acts around the world, like the imperial British.

bad2dabone · 27-06-2010 09:30AM

Jay D wrote: »

How about the fact that your country re-elected who I and many others deem to be the most evil corrupt bastard we've saw in recent years.

this guy?

Motley Crue · 27-06-2010 09:32AM

Osu wrote: »

Can somebody shed some light on this for me? Why are Americans hated over here?

Personally I like Americans, but I can suppose it's because the Irish people don't get the American "energy" and their attitude to life - I know a lot of Irish people who describe American people generally as too happy or too hyper

Another reason could also be politics and heritage - a lot of American people claim right over Ireland through heritage connections, they tell you at the first opportunity when you meet them that they are Irish as well because their great great grandmother survived the Titanic and was originally from Kilkenny....personally, I did get sick of that when I visited your country

Politics wise, many don't like your political figures, and that has been the case for many years - there was a backlash when Bill Clinton tried to sort out Northern Ireland because his family was traditionally from Fermanagh...there were other reasons he did it, but the fact Northern Ireland was such a big deal for the US pissed a lot of people off, especially when our government didn't have as much enthusiasm. I for one support Clinton's efforts for peace. Many others don't.

I've been to California and New York. I've visited cities like LA and San Francisco, San Diego and Santa Barbara (the last one is not a city, but I was there)

The fact is I like America, and I like it's people, but many Irish just do not because the Americans have a different way of looking at life compared to us

rugbyman · 27-06-2010 09:34AM

Osu,
quite a few people have written on here about how stupid many Americans are. I do not know why, as you made no reference to stupidity. If stupidity were an issue ,even then it would not be a reason to "hate" or even dislike a Country.

One poster pointed out that the anti US thing is at most 15 years old.

I agree with the 15 years bit but I doubt very much that any anti US stuff in this country is shared by more than a tiny ,but vocal minority, usually involving tree huggers,anti war types,and wallys. Among these will be quite a few well spoken ,well read types which they feel exempts them from my earlier description.

One poster spoke of using airports for war usage(my words). OUR govt made them available so that is not an issue.

Another spoke of the US seeing itself as a global policeman, I disagree but I think the" free world" does see the US as being their global policeman.

The anti British stuff ( I rarely see hatred) is dying as the education of our citizens has evolved. Our young ,for the last 25 years or more have not had it fed into them.

Regards, Rugbyman

27-06-2010 09:35AM

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

boards.ie After Hours does not reflect Irish society in the slightest. This place is full of west-brits so naturally will be pro-English. The anti-American thing comes from how America acts around the world, like the imperial British.

It's full of people with chips on their shoulders

Herb Powell · 27-06-2010 09:36AM

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

... as a graduate from Trinity college you probably wouldn't still be up to the mark as those Americans who graduated from Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Columbia, etc.. Remember Americans probably have some of the best third level educational faculties in the world and the fruits of these are very visible in American's contribution to the arts, sciences and engineering.

yeah, if you can afford them. more money=better person?

I've been to America. Very friendly people. A lot of them are a little on the large side:D I think any dislike comes from a culture/personality clash tbh. They tend to be very friendly and chatty, sometimes too much so for some people, and might say a lot of things that people find moronic.

27-06-2010 09:39AM

Herb Powell wrote: »

A lot of them are a little on the large side:D

That disease has spread here too! Ireland's full of fatties.

Cheap Thrills! · 27-06-2010 09:49AM

Osu wrote: »

Can somebody shed some light on this for me? Why are Americans hated over here?

Any great reasons?

I don't hate Americans but unfortunately the ones that seem to visit here don't really endear themselves with their ignorance of politics etc.

For me one of the things that bothers me is 'the War on Terror'. The fact that Dubya used the bombing of the twin towers to settle his Dads old scores in Iraq and Afrghanistan. The American Government has sent over young men to their deaths there and caused the deaths of innocents and really made no difference to the situation at all.

All they've done is increase the hatred for America worldwide with their very transparently disingenuous war. American people don't seem to have any problem with this and allow their sons be sent over to a very much unsupported 'war'

What's reported on American 'news' is so laughably skewed and non-factual propeganda its frightening, to the extent that Americans ask 'why does the world dislike us'

Then there are the two main tourist types that come here.

I dont have a problem with the first, but some people do: Seniour Citizens in green polyester trousers. Aw, they're loud but innocently harmless IMO

Its the second type I dislike. Valley girls and their Jock boyfriends, dripping in Abercrombie and expensive orthodontics, loud, obnoxious, arrogant and entitled. No self awareness or humility!

Yes, these two are cliches but they are so because there is more than a grain of truth to them!

Herb Powell · 27-06-2010 09:53AM

rarnes1 wrote: »

That disease has spread here too! Ireland's full of fatties.

have you been to America though? There is seriously no comparison

My name is URL · 27-06-2010 10:54AM

I lived in SF for 2 years though and found the people to be really nice and welcoming. What I really hate is it's foreign policies, and the fact that most people are obviously either apathetic or ignorant about the atrocities carried out in their names. Not too fussed on the gun laws either but 90% of the people I met over there shared my views on that.

As for them being generally stupid, that's just not true.. I'm sure many are but it's the same everywhere.

CreepingDeath · 27-06-2010 10:58AM

Osu wrote: »

Being Irish-American born in the US to Irish parents this is my point of view on the avid anti-American stance in Ireland.

I find it quite funny and hilariously sad the severe Anti-American stance in Ireland. Some people I meet in Ireland have some sort of hatred towards the States. For what reason, I can't comprehend. It makes no sense at all the fact that a lot of Irish people seem to think it's okay to hate America

Can somebody shed some light on this for me? Why are Americans hated over here?

Any great reasons?

Sounds like you're being seriously over-sensitive.
Where do you get the opinion that "a lot" of Irish hate America ?
How many Irish people do you know personally ? (real life, not the net?)

Most forum posts are probably commenting on the American administration, the government and not on the people themselves.

A lot of your words like "sad", "severe" and "hatred" point to something personal that happened to you. Did some Irish girl reject you or something?

You see what you want to see, and if you see hate then that's probably more a reflection of your state of mind than it is of reality.

plein de force · 27-06-2010 11:13AM

i don't have anything against americans, they're on the whole a very nice bunch of people from my experience. The only thing that's slightly annoying is all the majority of people ever want to talk about to me is Ireland and how they're 3rd cousin twice removed's friend was irish therefore they're irish too:p
but i've found them very nice people and they don't deserve half the stick they get

supermonkey · 27-06-2010 11:19AM

If you think Ireland is anti American go to Greece, Spain, Italy, France, Germany you get the picture.

Oh no you're an American so you don't.

Everyone hates Americans except the Irish. We just dislike you.

supermonkey · 27-06-2010 11:21AM

My name is URL wrote: »

I lived in SF for 2 years though and found the people to be really nice and welcoming.

What a great city. If you're mentally ill you can be well looked after on the street. And it is just a coincidence that 80% of homeless are black when they are 10% of the SF population. And the weather is crap and the wine's too dear,

mike65 · 27-06-2010 11:23AM

Osu wrote: »

but any topic regarding any any-British content seems to be a taboo subject for you guys.

You don't spend enough time on After Hours if you really think that.

bank · 27-06-2010 11:28AM

Hi Ozu

It's very unlikely most Irish people hate Americans or English. A Lot of either nationality are a mixture of two or all. Your obviously connecting with ignorant Irish people who are narrowminded, dull and well probably pretty stupid unfortunately. You need to change your social circle and speak to more travelled, educated people.

bonerm · 27-06-2010 11:38AM

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE

I don't mind them knowing absolutely nothing about the world but you'd have to worry when an American doesn't even know who the first man on the moon is or if they were in the Vietnam War or not. Plus the one about the people not knowing how many sides on a triangle made me suspicious. Accuse me of giving the US education system too much credit but was this clip staged/unfairly-edited by any chance?

27-06-2010 11:40AM

bank wrote: »

Hi Ozu

It's very unlikely most Irish people hate Americans or English. A Lot of either nationality are a mixture of two or all. Your obviously connecting with ignorant Irish people who are narrowminded, dull and well probably pretty stupid unfortunately. You need to change your social circle and speak to more travelled, educated people.

Bit of a lofty statement.

bonerm · 27-06-2010 11:41AM

Oh btw the reasons we don't like the US

1) you pick on smaller weaker countries. After 9/11 the whole world (well almost) was on your side. Your reaction to it turned the whole world against you.

2) we obtained a level of wealth in the last 10-20 years that made us rather uppity, giving us feelings such as "ah shure we don't need those yanks any more". I remember as kid growing up in the 80's it was the UK that we directed all this ill-feeling at and the US was seen as this amazing country who we had great relations with, who had never invaded us and who sent all the jobs our way.

falan · 27-06-2010 11:45AM

Watch first 2 mins of this Andrew Maxwell comedian...AMERICANS:D:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z5blu-EFII

christina_x · 27-06-2010 11:48AM

i have no problem with Americans most of the times. Any i have met have always been friendly, but the ones i see on tv wreck my head. I was watching wife swap USA and one family on it were irish and so thought it necessary to wear nothing up green, irish dance every evening, have shamrocks cut out on green paper be stuck up on every available space on the wall, and of course had a sign saying "failte" - only they said "this is gaelic for welcome - its pronounced felt".
I was waiting for a little man in a geen top hat to pop out of the garden shed. All in all, rediculous. If you have an irish background - fine. But dont go on like a bloody nutcase about it. The way some american people go on about being irish probably has negatively influenced the irish peoples view on americans imo

mike65 · 27-06-2010 11:54AM

I enjoyed the video but hey its been proven that when someone sticks a mic under your nose ones brian fials.

DOCDL · 27-06-2010 12:02PM

Athlone_Bhoy wrote: »

Seriously Bush was president so how stupid do Americans have to be? You can always make a reason for the first time been elected but the second?

There's a old saying in.... Oh never mind

and we have been smart enough to keep FF in goverment for how long now. Ahern was worse than Bush at messing up a country.

Personally love everything about the states and hope to be moving their very soon.

Anti-Americanism in Ireland

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