Coming Out in the World of Soccer

Mick Daly · 24-06-2010 01:27AM #1

Having seen a BBC Inside Sport documentary on there a while ago I made a few discoveries.

John Fashanu is the only footballer to come out as gay.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Gerard Pique were snapped in a gay pose in May 2010.

(http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/barcelona/26222/whats-the-deal-with-zlatan-ibrahimovic-and-gerard-pique.html)

Never heard about the Barcalona stars gay image before. This is surprising. I would have presumed that the Irish Sun, Mirror, Star would have had a field day with it?

The documentary also showed Donal Óg Cusack of Cork hurling fame.

What are ye're opinions on the whole thing? Max Clifford says there are a few stars who he has advised to stay in the closet. Any big Premier League stars who don't have a girlfriend? Could Jamie Carragher be gay?

It's all a bit sad that people's opinions will change when some of them come out.

alwaysadub · 24-06-2010 01:33AM

Does anyone really care tbh?
If someone stops supporting their team cos a player is gay,well then, they're a sap

tommyhaas · 24-06-2010 01:34AM

1. Jamie Carragher's married

2. John Fash isint gay, his brother Justin was, he killed himself a few years back

Hank_Jones · 24-06-2010 01:34AM

It was John Fashanu's brother, not Fashanu himself.

Brother eventually committed suicide because he could take all the abuse he was getting.

Mezcita · 24-06-2010 01:36AM

Mick Daly wrote: »

Could Jamie Carragher be gay?

Jesus, if he is I hope his wife and kids are cool about it.

"Carragher is married to his childhood sweetheart, Nicola Hart, and has two children; James and Mia."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Carragher#Personal_life

oppenheimer1 · 24-06-2010 01:37AM

Mick Daly wrote: »

Having seen a BBC Inside Sport documentary on there a while ago I made a few discoveries.
John Fashanu is the only footballer to come out as gay.

Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Gerard Pique were snapped in a gay pose in May 2010.

(http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/barcelona/26222/whats-the-deal-with-zlatan-ibrahimovic-and-gerard-pique.html)

Never heard about the Barcalona stars gay image before. This is surprising. I would have presumed that the Irish Sun, Mirror, Star would have had a field day with it?

The documentary also showed Donal Óg Cusack of Cork hurling fame.

What are ye're opinions on the whole thing? Max Clifford says there are a few stars who he has advised to stay in the closet. Any big Premier League stars who don't have a girlfriend? Could Jamie Carragher be gay?

It's all a bit sad that people's opinions will change when some of them come out.

Not often I agree with Max Clifford, however he is right. Coming out ruined Justin Fashanu's career, in the end he killed himself due to allegations of inappropriate behaviour with a boy afaik. I am surprised the more salacious elements in the media don't report it though, maybe even they're above that.

Football fans aren't known to be the most tolerant of folks, just listen to some of the chants from the terraces.

mink_man · 24-06-2010 01:38AM

thats not a gay pose of pique and ibrah, theyre obviously arm wresting..:rolleyes:

Mick Daly · 24-06-2010 01:40AM

I know Mr.Carragher is marret. I was just proposing that if some super world class legend like himself came out how would people react.

Mick Daly · 24-06-2010 01:41AM

I got it wrong. It were Justin alright.

John was quoted as saying he'd rather the media kept quiet incase people thought it was him that was gay and then his career would be over. Some bruver he was!

That_Guy · 24-06-2010 01:44AM

Shouldn't really sway people's opinions of the players tbh. As long as they put their heart and soul into playing for their club/country it shouldn't really matter what they do off the pitch.

Neberkenezer · 24-06-2010 01:46AM

wayne rooney is a renound homosexual in the manchester area .... that sh*te with coleen is just a smokescreen.you heard it here first

Hank_Jones · 24-06-2010 01:47AM

That_Guy wrote: »

Shouldn't really sway people's opinions of the players tbh. As long as they put their heart and soul into playing for their club/country it shouldn't really matter what they do off the pitch.

It's a very ''macho'' sport, that's never going to change the way it is.
At least not for a long time anyway.

It's a sport in which racism is still rife sure, fans still shout racist comments/chants from the stands.

Mick Daly · 24-06-2010 01:47AM

One point that Clarke Carlisle of Burnley made in the documentary was the changing rooms.

He said that if he were in a shower with 20 fit burds then he would be getting 'ard. So most other fellas would assume the gay man would get 'ard at the sight of a load of fit lads in the shower.

Mick Daly · 24-06-2010 01:48AM

Neberkenezer wrote: »

wayne rooney is a renound homosexual in the manchester area .... that sh*te with coleen is just a smokescreen.you heard it here first

Nah. John O'Shea got married last week I think. United fans won't be shouting "John O'Shea, You're gay" anymore!

Nulty · 24-06-2010 01:49AM

I heard rumours Gary Neville, John O'Shea and Ashley Cole were gay. But then I heard Andy Reid doesn't like tomato ketchup...

I was so disappointed

mink_man · 24-06-2010 01:49AM

rumour has it that damian johnson for birmingham is gay, ironic because he is a hard tackler type of player...

Bodhisopha · 24-06-2010 01:54AM

I've heard rumours about Young and Bent.

tommyhaas · 24-06-2010 01:54AM

Nulty wrote: »

I heard rumours Gary Neville, John O'Shea and Ashley Cole were gay. But then I heard Andy Reid doesn't like tomato ketchup...

I was so disappointed

Gary Neville is David Beckhams b!tch, I seen a documentary a few years back, he was over is Beckhams house while posh was away, cooking his dinner for him and all he was

Hank_Jones · 24-06-2010 01:55AM

Bodhisopha wrote: »

I've heard rumours about Young and Bent.

Is this a pun or what?

tommyhaas · 24-06-2010 02:00AM

Cristiano Ronaldo on getting a brusie on his face

I don't like to look like this, but in four or five days I will be beautiful once again

Must be gay

ascanbe · 24-06-2010 02:06AM

It's no longer an issue; the sport itself has taken the all-important first step:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xLn-X8YJRg

Hank_Jones · 24-06-2010 02:08AM

http://www.gifbin.com/bin/052009/1242226186_ronaldo-stunned.gif

starbelgrade · 24-06-2010 02:08AM

All footballers are gay. Everyone knows that.

Bodhisopha · 24-06-2010 02:09AM

Hank_Jones wrote: »

Is this a pun or what?

If it is, i don't get it!

starbelgrade · 24-06-2010 02:14AM

mink_man wrote: »

rumour has it that damian johnson for birmingham is gay, ironic because he is a hard tackler type of player...

So he likes a hard tackle?

Definitely gay, so.

Doop · 24-06-2010 02:14AM

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

Not often I agree with Max Clifford, however he is right. Coming out ruined Justin Fashanu's career, in the end he killed himself due to allegations of inappropriate behaviour with a boy afaik. I am surprised the more salacious elements in the media don't report it though, maybe even they're above that.

Football fans aren't known to be the most tolerant of folks, just listen to some of the chants from the terraces.

Seriously, recommending people stay in the closet is never going help anything. People should be taken on their skill at the game, not who they sleep with. (as long as someone wants to come out).

I know in reality this is not the case but we're never going to get anywhere if poeple think 'the gheys' should stay in the closet so as not to upset anyone.

An AFL player recently made similar comments and thankfully recieved a massive backlash from the media and public..
http://www.news.com.au/national/stay-in-the-closet-footballer-tells-gay-players/story-e6frfkvr-1225868921917

Side note... suicide amongest homosexuals is reported to be six times greater than avaerage. Food for thought...

JupiterKid · 24-06-2010 02:23AM

As a gay guy myself I laugh at the ignorance shown on this thread.:rolleyes: Of course there are gay professional soccer players - they are just not out - and for good reason.

Justin Fashanu and what happened him whan he had to sheer guts to come out 20 years ago has kept then in the closet. The culture of homophobia and in the football world is toxic to the idea of out players.

Being married means nothing - it's well known that sports players have got married to try to stop rumours. Look at the former Wales Rugby captain Gareth Thomas - he was married to his "childhood sweetheart" and he came out as gay last Christmas.

He also thought a lot about suicide. Because society is only learning now to accept gay people, it's no surprise so many have killed themselves.

It's also interesting that being an openly gay player seems to be less of an issue in GAA or Rugby than soccer. Why? Because mainly of the amount of scumbaggery and homophobia among soccer fans...:mad::(

Bodhisopha · 24-06-2010 02:29AM

JupiterKid wrote: »

As a gay guy myself I laugh at the ignorance shown on this thread.:rolleyes: Of course there are gay professional soccer players - they are just not out - and for good reason.

Justin Fashanu and what happened him whan he had to sheer guts to come out 20 years ago has kept then in the closet. The culture of homophobia and in the football world is toxic to the idea of out players.

Being married means nothing - it's well known that sports players have got married to try to stop rumours. Look at the former Wales Rugby captain Gareth Thomas - he was married to his "childhood sweetheart" and he came out as gay last Christmas.

He also thought a lot about suicide. Because society is only learning now to accept gay people, it's no surprise so many have killed themselves.

It's also interesting that being an openly gay player seems to be less of an issue in GAA or Rugby than soccer. Why? Because mainly of the amount of scumbaggery and homophobia among soccer fans...:mad::(

Are you saying Max Clifford paired Ashley Cole and Cheryl Tweedy to cover up his homosexuality and improve her public image after attacking that black toilet attendant?

That's a bold claim you're making.

bonerm · 24-06-2010 02:31AM

Bodhisopha wrote: »

I've heard rumours about Young and Bent.

There was rumours Ashley Cole was going to sign for Spurs in 2009 when he heard the forwards were Bent and Keane.

But enough of this accusing players of being homosexuals. One particular team at this years World Cup has repeatedly been accused of being gay and it's only made them even more determined to win matches.

minister poxbottle · 24-06-2010 02:36AM

Mick Daly wrote: »

Nah. John O'Shea got married last week I think. United fans won't be shouting "John O'Shea, You're gay" anymore!

unless he married john terry :pac:

pwd · 24-06-2010 02:39AM

http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/889/cristianoronaldohomoero.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_TErdBYYj_NQ/SQk5PXVnr-I/AAAAAAAABOQ/Duurb66vTg8/s400/drogba.jpg
http://www.startrip.tv/images/2007/09/27/9ir58i.jpg
http://habs.theoffside.com/files/2009/03/shaun-wright-phillips-photo-by-antonio-petronzio.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Kl7yL_h95qc/SZSTNrn1SwI/AAAAAAAAM3I/W6whv9ai0ac/s400/soccer+is+so+gay.jpg

Coming Out in the World of Soccer

Comments