Squats the story - the Off Topic Thread...

Barry.Oglesby · 20-06-2010 01:14AM

I would post here more, but there's not too many topics that interest me really. I'd post in more threads but it's fairly pointless as a lot of good advice just gets lost in the dross.

Also I'm too busy trying to form a hair metal band.

cc87 · 20-06-2010 04:14AM

Barry.Oglesby wrote: »

Also I'm too busy trying to form a hair metal band.

Drummer sorted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DVbt5W-DNc

squod · 20-06-2010 05:08AM

I see milk is down to €1.19 for two litres. Tempted.......... if only I could digest the stuff.

d'Oracle · 20-06-2010 12:49PM

squod wrote: »

Same can be said for any internet forum TBH.

Unfortunate truth is both unfortunate and true.

G86 · 20-06-2010 01:09PM

Hanley wrote: »

some internet warrior will always wade in telling people what to do and calling out anyone that doesn't agree.

I had an interesting insight into this the other night, I was talking to a girl who has started weightlifting, and she said she'd love to start a log but she was worried about what comments she'd get in here as she's only starting out. She basically thought that the forum was strictly for people who already knew what they were at, and not a welcoming place for newbies. It kind of disappointed me 'cause I'd love to see more girls start up fitness logs!

I can see how the newbie threads can be frustrating when it's the same info being asked again and again, but at the same time I think some people can get on their high horse a bit about it, instead of thinking about when they were starting out and how confusing all the conflicting info can be.

Regardless though, it's still a great forum

d'Oracle · 20-06-2010 01:18PM

G86 wrote: »

I had an interesting insight into this the other night, I was talking to a girl who has started weightlifting, and she said she'd love to start a log but she was worried about what comments she'd get in here as she's only starting out.

Erm.....people worry about this stuff?

G86 · 20-06-2010 01:19PM

d'Oracle wrote: »

Erm.....people worry about this stuff?

Well, she did anyways.

ragg · 20-06-2010 01:24PM

Barry.Oglesby wrote: »

I would post here more, but there's not too many topics that interest me really. I'd post in more threads but it's fairly pointless as a lot of good advice just gets lost in the dross.

Also I'm too busy trying to form a hair metal band.

ha, if you need more members, i'll rock out using my awesome comb-forward

gavtron · 20-06-2010 09:04PM

G86 wrote: »

I can see how the newbie threads can be frustrating when it's the same info being asked again and again, but at the same time I think some people can get on their high horse a bit about it, instead of thinking about when they were starting out and how confusing all the conflicting info can be.

Regardless though, it's still a great forum

first off, it's still a great forum...but there is a LOT of the same threads started by n00bs. Which is fine everyone has to start somewhere I know but if they did a quick search they could get most of the info in the stickies or any number of "Help i'm a newbie" threads.

There's lots of good info on here from lot of very smart, learned and dedicated people but sometimes, as Hanley said you'll get blasted for posting something that someone else disagrees with...the beef v chicken debacle from the other day springs to mind...but hey that's the internet for ya!

I'll keep posting when I think i can help or make fun of something anyway...

[edit] yeah, cause i'm totally in the same league as the guys you mentioned ragg!!

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kevpants · 20-06-2010 09:31PM

bradpants was the moment this forum jumped the shark.

the drifter · 21-06-2010 08:45AM

kevpants wrote: »

bradpants was the moment this forum jumped the shark.

are you still sour over that:D

discus · 21-06-2010 02:45PM

I know this idea has been bandied about and dismissed numerous times, but is it time for the fitness forum to implement some sort of system where people who have fairly in depth knowledge of a particular area relative to this forum could be distinguished from other "less informed" posters?

Think of all the knowledge here. As ragg pointed out, a lot of the technical posters don't hang around and don't have that much input anymore, which is a shame. Even Hanley is saying that he doesn't bother post outside his log, which is such a pity considering how many people probably came to this forum and actually got to interact with an actual powerlifter, something that most people wouldn't have the benefit of outside of teh internetz.

Such a system wouldn't be perfect, as barry pointed out a while ago that he'd argue of academic matters with the likes of Transform etc, and I'd probably forsee some conflicts between different commercial interests.

The tl;dr of this is that there is a lot of ****e being spouted on this board. Experienced, knowledgable posters are put off by this and don't bother post anymore. We could try avoid this by creating some sort of system that allows viewers to distinguish which poster is likely to give credible advice from a poster who's credentials are -as of yet - unproven.

brianthebard · 21-06-2010 02:50PM

No its the same on every forum, the only possible way of improving it is good moderation (which we have), users reporting dumb posts and generally trying to foster a policy of engaging one's brain. Even then I don't think quality issues can be improved that much.

rubadub · 21-06-2010 03:37PM

brianthebard wrote: »

No its the same on every forum

I think most internet forums could benefit from a "how to search" sticky, and explaining the importance of searching. People might spend 10minutes typing out a decent in-depth reply and then 2 days later somebody asks the same thing, they might get a blunt reply while if they searched they would have found the other thread. Topics have already been done very well. The google site:boards.ie function works very well. On one forum I go to newbies were not allowed post for a week, since 99% of questions were already answered very well. There was talk of newbies having to pass a simple quiz on the subject, not as suited here though. There was also "classic threads" stickies under subheadings.

If people are too lazy to search for 2mins then why should others spend their time replying. In the nutrition & diet forum there is an ongoing thread of "how many weightwatchers points are in", I have told people numerous times how to do this, e.g. search the manufacturers site or mysupermarket.co.uk for info and then put values into a calculator, but the very next post could be "how many points in weetabix", expecting others to do the donkey work.

brianthebard · 21-06-2010 03:42PM

Good point. To expand on what I said above I think a lot of problems arise from people not wanting to put in the work required to make the changes they want, and asking questions where they put up what they are willing to do, hoping that for some reason they are the unique person who can lose weight while eating 3 snickers a day. I agree that highlighting the search function would cut back on some of those threads that you mention but I also think a lot of it is people looking to reassure themselves even if its misguided. I've noticed this in the nutrition forum a lot as well and its for the same reasons.

learntheHardWay · 21-06-2010 05:05PM

My tip for good form when doing Squats is to not wear runners i.e. barefoot. Mine tend to tilt my weight onto my toes

Parsley · 21-06-2010 06:38PM

it's too f*cking hot to train.

brianthebard · 21-06-2010 06:40PM

Parsley wrote: »

it's too f*cking hot to train.

It seems to get warmer as the day goes on this past week, my 10pm I'm sweating buckets.

Parsley · 21-06-2010 06:47PM

brianthebard wrote: »

It seems to get warmer as the day goes on this past week, my 10pm I'm sweating buckets.

putting my clothes back on after training makes me start sweating buckets all over again. smolov is gonna be fun in this weather :pac:

Hanley · 21-06-2010 07:05PM

Parsley wrote: »

putting my clothes back on after training makes me start sweating buckets all over again. smolov is gonna be fun in this weather :pac:

Jesus yis are all ****ing pussies. So far today I've lifted twice, spent some time on the crosstrainer, rowed a moderately hard 1km and spent ages playing witha frisbee

Molly · 21-06-2010 07:15PM

Jesus yis are all ****ing pussies. So far today I've lifted twice, spent some time on the crosstrainer, rowed a moderately hard 1km and spent ages playing witha frisbee

Doesn't even get hot in Ireland never mind humid

ragg · 21-06-2010 07:24PM

I pussied out of training too!! It's just to fvckin hot.

DamienH · 21-06-2010 07:27PM

Molly wrote: »

Doesn't even get hot in Ireland never mind humid

Gotta agree. It's 31deg here, 82% humidity. Jesus christ it's hot.

brianthebard · 21-06-2010 07:31PM

Hanley wrote: »

Jesus yis are all ****ing pussies. So far today I've lifted twice, spent some time on the crosstrainer, rowed a moderately hard 1km and spent ages playing witha frisbee

Sometimes I think you don't even like training you just do it so much to show off to the rest of us. :pac:

Parsley · 21-06-2010 07:33PM

Hanley wrote: »

Jesus yis are all ****ing pussies. So far today I've lifted twice, spent some time on the crosstrainer, rowed a moderately hard 1km and spent ages playing witha frisbee

i still trained tho, jeez!

the drifter · 21-06-2010 07:49PM

brianthebard wrote: »

Sometimes I think you don't even like training you just do it so much to show off to the rest of us. :pac:

I maintain if we stopped taking notice hanley would just fade away and vanish

squod · 21-06-2010 07:55PM

I'm off to look out the window do weighted dips in the gym. Easiest thing I can think of. Might even throw in some rotator cuff do-dads.......

Thats a really big truck.

Hanley · 21-06-2010 08:16PM

brianthebard wrote: »

Sometimes I think you don't even like training you just do it so much to show off to the rest of us. :pac:

Ask anyone I've trained with, the majortity of the time I'm in the gym I'm complaining about not wanting to do it!!

1ceman · 21-06-2010 08:56PM

Quite happy to see the amount of people joining me on the WUSS wagon today. Although I skipped training due to pure exhaustion. Lack of sleep the last 2 nights and being in work at 6 am just kinda killed it so I passed out on the sofa after work.

Thanks for making me feel a little bit better my fellow whimps

d'Oracle · 21-06-2010 09:25PM

I skipped training too.
But I did so cos the missus asked me to go for a walk with her.

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