Bullfighting-not so bad (relatively)

Kent Brockman · 17-06-2010 02:41PM #1

http://bluepanjeet.net/2008/11/22/1594/the-horrible-whale-and-dolphin-massacre-tradition-of-faroe-islands-in-denmark/

This is sick.:(

My name is URL · 17-06-2010 02:43PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GosClBN6rzk

But yeah.. pretty sick alright

rovert · 17-06-2010 02:46PM

Different culture you cant judge.

Banned Account · 17-06-2010 02:47PM

See what happens when you send Brian Kerr somewhere.

P.S. Denmark my arse.

thebigbiffo · 17-06-2010 02:50PM

haha, i think it's pretty f'uckin cool. it rocks!

only joking

the keen edge · 17-06-2010 02:53PM

Poor islander's must be starving.

Use to be like that here in Galway, till we got a KFC.

The_Kew_Tour · 17-06-2010 02:53PM

Can imagine people eating and opening up this thread at same time will be like once they see this

IvyTheTerrible · 17-06-2010 02:54PM

rovert wrote: »

Different culture you cant judge.

I don't buy that. Some things that are wrong, are wrong no matter where they happen.

The_Minister · 17-06-2010 02:56PM

The sea is literally running red....

bijapos · 17-06-2010 02:58PM

Go into any abbatoir in this country and look the cattle, pigs or sheep in the eye when they come off a truck. They know whats going on, its no different to what the Faroe islanders are doing. They do it in the open, we do it behind a wall. No difference I'm afraid.

For that matter look at how pigs or chickens are raised here, also inhumane imo. And how does that fish in the can of mackerel die? Yep they suffocate. Not fair either.

(and no I'm not vegetarian either)

thebigbiffo · 17-06-2010 02:58PM

rovert wrote: »

Different culture you cant judge.

cannabalism ok with you?

Banned Account · 17-06-2010 02:59PM

The_Minister wrote: »

The sea is literally running red....

Shhhh ... Don't tell the Israeli's that or they'll be over with Moses looking to move in;)

IvyTheTerrible · 17-06-2010 03:01PM

bijapos wrote: »

Go into any abbatoir in this country and look the cattle, pigs or sheep in the eye when they come off a truck. They know whats going on, its no different to what the Faroe islanders are doing. They do it in the open, we do it behind a wall. No difference I'm afraid.

For that matter look at how pigs or chickens are raised here, also inhumane imo. And how does that fish in the can of mackerel die? Yep they suffocate. Not fair either.

(and no I'm not vegetarian either)

Yes (and I'm not a big fan of inhumane animal slaughter) but those cows, pigs sheep etc are raised to be killed and eaten. These people are killing wild animals that are in short supply. In fact, in Japan, eating whale has gone somewhat out of fashion, so they are killing them and just storing them.

rovert · 17-06-2010 03:06PM

thebigbiffo wrote: »

cannabalism ok with you?

As long as it is consensual.

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

I don't buy that. Some things that are wrong, are wrong no matter where they happen.

Thank you Mr. Arbiter

thebigbiffo · 17-06-2010 03:08PM

rovert wrote: »

As long as it is consensual.

you win

Stercus Accidit · 17-06-2010 03:08PM

Thats a pretty sensationalist article.

What would the Indians think of our wholesale slaughter of cattle?

One of the most ignorant things I've seen linked on AH, they do eat the meat FFS.

Gnomercy · 17-06-2010 03:12PM

Dolphins are just gay sharks

The_Minister · 17-06-2010 03:18PM

Gnomercy wrote: »

Dolphins are just gay sharks

I'm ashamed to say that I get this reference.

bijapos · 17-06-2010 03:19PM

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

Yes (and I'm not a big fan of inhumane animal slaughter) but those cows, pigs sheep etc are raised to be killed and eaten.

Raised inhumanely (a lot of the time) and killed inhumanely, as opposed to the Faroese where they are raised humanely (i.e. in the wild) and killed inhumanely. Sorry but to me its the pot (us) calling the kettle (them) black here.

These people are killing wild animals that are in short supply

AFAIK the type of whale that are caught in the Faroes are exempted from International Whaling Commission regulations. There is a quota set by the Faroese every year as to how many may be caught, however I have no idea however if they are endangered.

Gnomercy · 17-06-2010 03:22PM

The_Minister wrote: »

I'm ashamed to say that I get this reference.

Why are you ashamed?

dr.bollocko · 17-06-2010 03:23PM

It says:

For more information on Killing Whales in Faroe Islands, Click Here.

But then the link is a 404 not a holiday brochure.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 17-06-2010 03:41PM

bijapos wrote: »

Go into any abbatoir in this country and look the cattle, pigs or sheep in the eye when they come off a truck. They know whats going on

No they don't actually. They haven't a clue.

I worked in a slaughter house for years and heard that myth before I worked there and was asked hundreds of times whilst working and after leaving.

The animals have no idea they're for the slaughter.

dr.bollocko · 17-06-2010 03:45PM

Scott Most Speedy wrote: »

No they don't actually. They haven't a clue.

I worked in a slaughter house for years and heard that myth before I worked there and was asked hundreds of times whilst working and after leaving.

The animals have no idea they're for the slaughter.

Very true. They've put a lot of thought into slaughter house design:

n the latter part of the 20th century, the layout and design of most US slaughterhouses has been significantly influenced by the work of Dr. Temple Grandin.[7] It was her fascination with patterns and flow that first led her to redesign the layout of cattle holding pens.

Grandin's primary objective was to reduce the stress and suffering of animals being led to slaughter. In particular she applied an intuitive understanding of animal psychology to design pens and corrals which funnel a herd of animals arriving at a slaughterhouse into a single file ready for slaughter. Her corrals employ long sweeping curves so that each animal is prevented from seeing what lies ahead and just concentrates on the hind quarters of the animal in front of it. This design also attempts to override the animal's survival instincts and prevent them from reversing direction.

Grandin now claims to have designed over 54% of the slaughterhouses in the United States as well as many other slaughterhouses around the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slaughterhouse#Animal_welfare_concerns

bonerm · 17-06-2010 03:47PM

Gnomercy wrote: »

Why are you ashamed?

Google suggests it might be from the show "Glee"?

IF so then the poster is rightfully ashamed. Viewing that show is more shameful that killing some evil whales (not Dolphins), which is what I believe the Faroe Islanders (not Danes specifically) are doing in those pix (which are currently blocked for me).

Gnomercy · 17-06-2010 03:51PM

bonerm wrote: »

Google suggests it might be from the show "Glee"?

IF so then the poster is rightfully ashamed. Viewing that show is more shameful that killing some evil whales (not Dolphins), which is what I believe the Faroe Islanders (not Danes specifically) are doing in those pix (which are currently blocked for me).

Oh i didnt realise it was from Glee.
I agree, watching an episode of Glee would make me feel sicker than looking at those pics.
What Glee have done to some of my all time favourite songs is just sick too.

Richard tea · 17-06-2010 03:53PM

Picture number 10 looks like he is having a Whale of a time:p

Gnomercy · 17-06-2010 03:57PM

Richard tea wrote: »

Picture number 10 looks like he is having a Whale of a time:p

I can sea that

liah · 17-06-2010 04:03PM

I'd like to know the reasons for the slaughter prior to condemning it.

In the north of Canada, seal hunting is very controversial, as you can imagine. Protests arise every single time this tradition takes place, driven by people who do not understand the tradition or the reasons for the tradition to exist.

The seal slaughter is a very necessary evil in order for the ecosystem to remain balanced. They run rampant and overpopulate and destroy their environment if allowed to develop without being culled. It's also got its roots in ancient Inuit and Native American traditions, where they were the main (surprisingly nutritious) food supply and in some villages still are.

Hunting in general in Canada is much the same. Populations need to be culled and kept in check for the long-term survival of not only the species being hunted, but the other species in the environment it lives in. Protests take place constantly against it by people who don't understand the delicate balance that needs to be kept to ensure the world keeps turning.

Now, I know very little of the Faroe Island whale thing, but I'd imagine its quite similar to the seal hunt. On the surface it's quite a barbaric practice, but perhaps it would be better to educate oneself on the reasons behind it before automatically assuming it is unnecessary and horrible.

Gnomercy · 17-06-2010 04:09PM

liah wrote: »

I'd like to know the reasons for the slaughter prior to condemning it.

In the north of Canada, seal hunting is very controversial, as you can imagine.

Well i've always enjoyed going clubbing i have to say

Zombienosh · 17-06-2010 04:14PM

**** tradition, these people are backwards.

ScumLord · 17-06-2010 04:34PM

bijapos wrote: »

Go into any abbatoir in this country and look the cattle, pigs or sheep in the eye when they come off a truck. They know whats going on, its no different to what the Faroe islanders are doing. They do it in the open, we do it behind a wall. No difference I'm afraid.

For that matter look at how pigs or chickens are raised here, also inhumane imo. And how does that fish in the can of mackerel die? Yep they suffocate. Not fair either.

(and no I'm not vegetarian either)

Like Makikomi said this is just untrue. Imagination is a particularly unique human trait. Also these animals are transported regularly they'd be well used to it and fairly trusting of the hand that feeds them.

bijapos wrote: »

Raised inhumanely (a lot of the time) and killed inhumanely, as opposed to the Faroese where they are raised humanely (i.e. in the wild) and killed inhumanely. Sorry but to me its the pot (us) calling the kettle (them) black here.

This is more bull****, perhaps true in other counties but Irish animals are treated very well.

Bullfighting-not so bad (relatively)

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