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ULTIMATE VARMINT CALIBER ?

  • 09-06-2010 11:26PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 211 ✭✭


    As above i would like to hear views on what people regard as their best varmint caliber out to 500 yards on foxes,crows,rabbits ect.....?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭murtdono


    hi pat 'i would have to say 220 swift 40-52 gr 'aprox 4000 fps


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    204 Ruger, 220 swift or 22.250


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 681 ✭✭✭Feidhlim Dignan


    220 swift is probably the best to get the job done. but most of are sensible and go for an intermediate caliber


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭yog1


    pat58 wrote: »
    As above i would like to hear views on what people regard as their best varmint caliber out to 500 yards on foxes,crows,rabbits ect.....?
    are you talking caliber alone or are you taking cost of ammo, availability of ammo ect into consideration as well, might have a factor,
    i bought a 22-250 for fox's,
    at the time i was torn between a 204 and a 22-250, wish i had look'd at the 223 a bit more purely for the range of ammo, i didn't plan on shooting paper much at the time, but now that i have the gun i would consider advising someone to think about it because most of my shooting is at paper, still love the gun though. and i know that whatevertime i get my marksmanship up to standard i'll love it even more


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    .243 Win or a 6mmBR or any other fast 6mm loaded with about a 70gr Ballistic tip.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭jwshooter


    500 yards normally dont bother shooting that close. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭tomcat220t


    The .204 ruger is very good out to 500 yards + on varmint ;).Any shots from 50 yards onwards i can see my hits which really helps for a followup shots .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    .243 Win or a 6mmBR or any other fast 6mm loaded with about a 70gr Ballistic tip.

    OP stated varmint calibre. Some Supers will only licence anything above a 220 Swift as a deer/target rifle


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 211 ✭✭pat58


    204 Ruger, 220 swift or 22.250
    So far it seems like a toss up between the .204 and the .220 swift .Thats a supprise ,taught there would be more .223s,222s and .17 fireball views :confused:.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 211 ✭✭pat58


    .243 Win or a 6mmBR or any other fast 6mm loaded with about a 70gr Ballistic tip.
    Will the 6mm br feed well in a mag?If not ,hardly much good for quick repeat shot in the field ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 211 ✭✭pat58


    jwshooter wrote: »
    500 yards normally dont bother shooting that close. ;)
    JW ,if you had to take such easy shots at 500 yards ,aside from your .22 what caliber would you use;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    OP stated varmint calibre. Some Supers will only licence anything above a 220 Swift as a deer/target rifle

    .243 was designed as a varminting round, so it's well in. The 6BR is a target round, so whatever about that, but the .243 has to be in, as it's the design purpose of the cartridge.
    pat58 wrote: »
    Will the 6mm br feed well in a mag?If not ,hardly much good for quick repeat shot in the field ?

    Yeah, it feeds plenty fine. It's the universal cartridge in CISM rifles, where rapid fire strings of ten are the order of the day, and failure to feed would not be acceptable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    .243 was designed as a varminting round, so it's well in. The 6BR is a target round, so whatever about that, but the .243 has to be in, as it's the design purpose of the cartridge.

    If you can get your super to agree with you your right otherwise I'm right :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    If you can get your super to agree with you your right otherwise I'm right :p

    Nope, my super doesn't get a say in what's a suitable cartridge nor what one was designed for, only whether I can have it for that purpose, which is of course ridiculous. The .243 is a varminting cartridge regardless of what any super says. It was designed to do that job. And it's a better choice for the 500 yard game than any .22 centrefire too. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭landkeeper


    having had a 22 hornet, 222, 223 and a 243 and used them all for shooting vermin if i was to pick one it'd be the 222 hands down , the 243 would come a close second for me ,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    Nope, my super doesn't get a say in what's a suitable cartridge nor what one was designed for, only whether I can have it for that purpose......

    Or to put it another way the Super may not licence anything over a 220 Swift for varminting :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    landkeeper wrote: »
    having had a 22 hornet, 222, 223 and a 243 and used them all for shooting vermin if i was to pick one it'd be the 222 hands down , the 243 would come a close second for me ,

    Never had a 222, shooting buddy has and swears by it for foxes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    Or to put it another way the Super may not licence anything over a 220 Swift for varminting :p

    It's genuinely not important to the discussion though. If I wanted a rifle for the job, I'd consider what I wanted, then work on the super. If I then have to get a different thing because he won't let me have it, then what I end up getting isn't the perfect tool for the job anyway, which is what we're discussing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    It's genuinely not important to the discussion though. If I wanted a rifle for the job, I'd consider what I wanted, then work on the super. If I then have to get a different thing because he won't let me have it, then what I end up getting isn't the perfect tool for the job anyway, which is what we're discussing.

    After reviewing the question in the OP & your comment above and nothwithstanding my original statement regarding the Supers possible refusal to licence anything over 220 Swift and my original calibre choices, which were proposed with this statement in mind, IF the Super would allow it I'd go for .243 Win for varminting :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    After reviewing the question in the OP & your comment above and nothwithstanding my original statement regarding the Supers possible refusal to licence anything over 220 Swift and my original calibre choices, which were proposed with this statement in mind, IF the Super would allow it I'd go for .243 Win for varminting :)

    With meandering speeches like that, you ever consider politics? :p


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    With meandering speeches like that, you ever consider politics? :p

    Naw, I'm too honest & outspoken ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 wunwabbit


    well lads !!! what about a 22-243 / 22 middle stead !!! super flat !! hard hitting and fast !!! and will do the 1000 yds !!! im own should be finished in sept can wait !!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭dwighet


    22br or 6mmbr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭tomcat220t


    .243 Win or a 6mmBR or any other fast 6mm loaded with about a 70gr Ballistic tip.
    What advantages does the 70gr 243 have over the .204 out to 500 yards ?My ideal varmint round is flat shooting ,good in wind, accurate,light recoil so one can see their hits ,good barrel life and a frangible bullet that will not over penetrate or ricoehet.....Theres no such thing as a perfect round but imo the .204 is very close ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭tomcat220t


    Naw, I'm too honest & outspoken ;)
    :D:D:D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭tomcat220t


    landkeeper wrote: »
    having had a 22 hornet, 222, 223 and a 243 and used them all for shooting vermin if i was to pick one it'd be the 222 hands down , the 243 would come a close second for me ,
    Havent shot a .222 :o.How do you find it at a bit of range ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    tomcat220t wrote: »
    What advantages does the 70gr 243 have over the .204 out to 500 yards ?My ideal varmint round is flat shooting ,good in wind, accurate,light recoil so one can see their hits ,good barrel life and a frangible bullet that will not over penetrate or ricoehet.....Theres no such thing as a perfect round but imo the .204 is very close ;)

    You've described the .243 Win perfectly there. ;) Personally I'd shoot a 6mmBR with something in the 60-85gr bracket, as I'd take sheer accuracy over flat-shooting. Can always range and aim off if needs be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭tomcat220t


    You've described the .243 Win perfectly there. ;) Personally I'd shoot a 6mmBR with something in the 60-85gr bracket, as I'd take sheer accuracy over flat-shooting. Can always range and aim off if needs be.
    .How does that describe the .243?Please explain:confused:.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭dwighet


    tomcat220t wrote: »
    .How does that describe the .243?Please explain:confused:.

    Heres one to run through your ballistics calculator..

    204cal 40 gn vmax... muzzle velocity:3900 fps. BC...275

    243cal 58 gn vmax... muzzle velocity:3750 fps. BC...250

    I dont have time as im at work. will be interesting on the results out to 600 yds

    :D:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    tomcat220t wrote: »
    .How does that describe the .243?Please explain:confused:.

    Accurate
    Flat shooting
    Good in Wind
    Reasonable on barrels
    Light recoil
    Frangible bullets.

    That's the .243 Win nailed.


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