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A question of ethics

  • 04-06-2010 08:56AM
    #1
    Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭


    So you drop into Spar on your way home to get a roll. The roll has always cost 4.25, now though the regular deli person isn't there so the manager takes charge, makes the roll and slaps 5 euro on it. Upon reaching the check out you notice it and decide to go back and point out the mistake, however, become distracted and put a can of coke in your pocket and say fcuk him. After all he did completely attempt to rob you in the first place.

    You now pay for your roll at the inflated price. saving a total of what would be normally 25cent in total for roll and can of coke. Would you feel bad?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    I wouldn't do it in the first place, because I'm not a scummer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    I wouldn't do it in the first place, because I'm not a scummer.

    +1 :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭bonerm


    Jay D wrote: »
    So you drop into Spar on your way home to get a roll. The roll has always cost 4.25, now though the regular deli person isn't there so the manager takes charge, makes the roll and slaps 5 euro on it. Upon reaching the check out you notice it and decide to go back and point out the mistake, however, become distracted and put a can of coke in your pocket and say fcuk him. After all he did completely attempt to rob you in the first place.

    You now pay for your roll at the inflated price. saving a total of what would be normally 25cent in total for roll and can of coke. Would you feel bad?

    Maybe it's people like you robbing that means the roll even costs 4.25 in the first place (let alone €5).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,533 ✭✭✭SV


    I wouldn't do it in the first place, because I'm not a scummer.

    lol, sheltered life you have to consider that scummy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Taking something without paying for it is stealing.
    I'd just point out that the roll usually is 4.25 and not pay 5.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    Mate you robbed the place. You could have just left the roll there.


  • Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    PLEASE PLEASE, JEEEZ....

    Ponce people of the innernet you must realise that I myself did not steal anything. Imagine a place to broadcast it such as AH boards.ie if I did! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    Jay D wrote: »
    PLEASE PLEASE, JEEEZ....

    Ponce people of the innernet you must realise that I myself did not steal anything. Imagine a place to broadcast it such as AH boards.ie if I did! :rolleyes:


    Well then, answer your own question. Would you feel bad?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Danbo!


    What an utterly ridiculous hypothetical situation.

    And WTF? "Become Distracted" ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    SV wrote: »
    lol, sheltered life you have to consider that scummy.

    You don't consider robbing a 'scummer' act? This wasn't accidental, it was done with intent to get back at the obvious emotional damage that the extra 75 cent on the roll did to the OP. Aw. I mean what could you have bought with that saved 75 cent.............................um.............................hmm.

    EDIT: So hypothetically it's still a scummy thing to do. Tell that to 'your friend'. Or your 'hypothetical situation' or whatever you want to call it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Riamfada


    The AH bandwagon

    I hope you die you are directly funding the drugs trade ect ect judgemental over reactionist post fingerwag fingerwag! Hitler started off stealing cans of coke and he was the biggest "scummer" of them all. Your worse than Hitler.

    On Topic

    Id call the manager a robbing cnut and ask for my money back unless he finds out how to work his till.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,778 ✭✭✭Pauleta


    I bet he was one of those gimps that count butter or mayonaise as a topping :mad:

    I fully endorse your stealing Jay D


  • Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Insurgent wrote: »
    Well then, answer your own question. Would you feel bad?

    I just think it's very funny, didn't realise people would get so wound up over it :D

    I couldn't really care one way or the other but i have been known to drive a hard bargain in shops of all sorts and I would not have got far from the deli counter as I always check the price as soon as I get my item handed to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    €4.25 is a joke! In some Spars they sell them for €2.


  • Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    chin_grin wrote: »
    This wasn't accidental, it was done with intent to get back at the obvious emotional damage that the extra 75 cent on the roll did to the OP.

    Thank Thank you professor obvious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    I'd love a breakfast roll now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 489 ✭✭Trashbat


    €4.25 for a roll????:eek:

    Why were you shopping there in the first place???


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Jay D wrote: »
    So you drop into Spar on your way home to get a roll. The roll has always cost 4.25, now though the regular deli person isn't there so the manager takes charge, makes the roll and slaps 5 euro on it. Upon reaching the check out you notice it and decide to go back and point out the mistake, however, become distracted and put a can of coke in your pocket and say fcuk him. After all he did completely attempt to rob you in the first place.

    You now pay for your roll at the inflated price. saving a total of what would be normally 25cent in total for roll and can of coke. Would you feel bad?
    So lets get this right... One is willing to risk a getting a shoplifting record, a stain on your character (and by effect on your familys name), a blemish on your record that might lead to you being not allowed into another country via a visa application, a stain on a job application that requires a Garda check and some people talking (for ever) about you locally behind your back ...and all over a can of coke that one wanted to rob?

    An clear act of stupidity and a sad indication to a possible ever ongoing low mental capacity of the character doing it.

    ...A definite "No". I will be teaching my 4 children its not (or ever) worth it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭derfderf


    I once stole an accordion from a blind monkey, but you? Pttw, you sicken even me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,791 ✭✭✭up for anything


    Jay D wrote: »
    become distracted and put a can of coke in your pocket and say fcuk him.

    Did he become distracted in the process of putting it in his pocket and saying fuck him? :confused:

    The one and only time I ever shoplifted was back when I was 17. A friend who had light and experienced hands took me into every shop on Henry Street and showed me how easy it was. Reached Pennys at the end, each of us with two full plastic carrier bag, went in and decided to nick one of those Peruvian type knitted hats for a friend. As she was slipping it into her bag she told me to run. I ran to the front doors on Henry St and she went out the side entrance that was there at the time. Nothing like that movie moment of a security guard's hand on your shoulder on a crowded street to bring you back to your senses. She could have got away but came back when she saw me caught.

    We were brought into the office and the manager looked in our bags and asked us had we receipts. She pulled out a bus ticket and waved it at him. He decided because of our out-of-town/culchie accents that we were pretty harmless, read us the riot act in triplicate and let us go - keeping our purloined goods. We justified his confidence in us because I never robbed again and she became a pillar of society and has donated millions to the Irish people. I have always been grateful to that man for not going through with the process as he was fully entitled to.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    Wouldn't feel bad in the slightest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,467 ✭✭✭Wazdakka


    I would have torched the place on my way out...
    Robbing bastards.
    It's for moments like that why I keep a petrol tank and a flare in the boot of my car.

    Cnunting Manager wanting an extra 75 cent :mad: :mad:
    They'd need to use dental records to identify him.
    [/AH, recession empowered keyboard warrior response]
    My anger management therapist says i'm making great progress....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,791 ✭✭✭up for anything


    Wazdakka wrote: »
    I would have torched the place on my way out...
    Robbing bastards.
    It's for moments like that why I keep a petrol tank and a flare in the boot of my car.

    Cnunting Manager wanting an extra 75 cent :mad: :mad:
    They'd need to use dental records to identify him.
    [/AH, recession empowered keyboard warrior response]
    My anger management therapist says i'm making great progress....


    Only several degrees??? :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,152 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    Jay D wrote: »
    i have been known to drive a hard bargain in shops of all sorts

    How do you "drive a hard bargain" when you're not even prepared to point out the mistake ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Jay D wrote: »
    Imagine a place to broadcast it such as AH boards.ie if I did! :rolleyes:

    Prudent. The Gardai have brought many a soft-drink can thief to jusitce by monitoring AH. Loose lips and all that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭Banned Account


    Hypothetical question here,

    Say you were in a furniture shop and a duck with three legs peeled and orange with a gravy boat. Would you plait your pubes and form them so the make the shape of Henry Hippo.

    Not saying I ever did it myself, just a moral question.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    Jay D wrote: »
    Thank Thank you professor obvious.

    You're you're welcome. And it's Captain Obvious!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    Not strictly an AH answer but what would do in a situation like this, I leave the item down , ask why there is such an increase in the space of 24hrs and ask what else has been inflated to that degree loud enough for other shoppers to hear but without making a scene , refuse to pay for it and leave.

    Simple

    * Under no circumstances would I rob anything as small as a can of coke , if your going to get labelled a thief , rob the fcuking till.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    Hypothetical question here,

    Say you were in a furniture shop and a duck with three legs peeled and orange with a gravy boat. Would you plait your pubes and form them so the make the shape of Henry Hippo.

    Not saying I ever did it myself, just a moral question.

    No because I keep my pubes hygenically trimmed


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 161 ✭✭Dazd_N_Confusd


    Don't mean to hijack the thread but I have a similar story (not really) that also involves Spar. So I was on the bus coming back from Limerick with my team and we stop into a Spar (or maybe Centra, can't remember). I'm getting a tin of Pringles, a bottle of water and a bottle of coke. Dude behind counter says I can have a free Mars bar with the bottle of coke. Was naturally surprised at this so I pay for the other stuff and take a Mars bar. Realising I don't like Mars bars I check out the price of a Mars and Snickers and see they're both 75 cent so perform the auld switcheroo when no ones looking. I tell a few of the lads on my team and they laugh saying I'm a pikey etc. My justification (although it's not really a justification because I would probably rob more often if I could get away with it) was that the item I exchanged was of the same value. But they pointed out that it wasn't the Snickers that was included in the offer.

    So, am I a pikey like the OP or what?


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