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was listening to the Radio there, when people break in you can only run away...

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  • #32
    Bonito
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,399 ✭✭✭Bonito


    My view of self defence is if anybody approaches you in an aggressive manner you drop them. I wouldn't be waiting for some hot headed fúcker to swing before I acted.


  • #33
    PK2008
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭PK2008


    I'd take my chances with the law

    Its easier to get forgiveness than permission


  • #34
    MrDarcy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 585 ✭✭✭MrDarcy


    Anyone who breaks into my house will be leaving in a coffin, and as for the consequences, I'd rather be tried by twelve of my peers than carried by six.


  • #35
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    stovelid wrote: »
    The trick is to make sure the burglar is a traveler.

    Then you can shoot him in the back like a dog to widespread public acclaim.

    Nah, the trick is to make sure that the burglar is a traveller with a long and comprehensive record of violent crimes and burglaries. THEN you'll get widespread public acclaim. :)


  • #36
    johnny_knoxvile
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭johnny_knoxvile


    my plan of action is to slip into my priest costume, minus the trousers and invite them upstairs to see my valuable stamp collection...it usually causes intruders to reconsider.


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  • #37
    consultech
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,956 ✭✭✭consultech


    Bonito wrote: »
    My view of self defence is if anybody approaches you in an aggressive manner you drop them. I wouldn't be waiting for some hot headed fúcker to swing before I acted.

    Well that's my point. It's your word against someone who broke into your gaff. On paper I would imagine it's fairly open and shut? What judge/jury in their right mind would convict you based on the account of someone who was mid-burglary?

    I think it would come down to whether there was use of excessive force. i.e. If you roughed him up a little you're probably fine, and only now have to worry about him/his mates turning up again some night. If however you vegetabalise him after he's unconscious or somethin; Then you're likely fooked.


  • #38
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    deelite wrote: »
    Years ago I was told that if someone breaks into your house try your best to get them upstairs - then you can beat the living hell out of them.... (once it's upstairs not on the stairs) I don't know why by the way.

    I live in a bungalow and keep a step ladder handy for such occasions.
    Gettin' the bastard up onto the top step is a bitch though.


  • #39
    the_syco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,310 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    PK2008 wrote: »
    Its easier to get forgiveness than permission
    It's earier to do jail time, than to get resurrected...


  • #40
    Standard Toaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,291 ✭✭✭✭Standard Toaster


    MrDarcy wrote: »
    Anyone who breaks into my house will be leaving in a coffin, and as for the consequences, I'd rather be tried by twelve of my peers than carried by six.

    Exactly


  • #41
    brianthebard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    deelite wrote: »
    Years ago I was told that if someone breaks into your house try your best to get them upstairs - then you can beat the living hell out of them.... (once it's upstairs not on the stairs) I don't know why by the way.

    I think you've half remembered an episode of the Simpsons.


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  • #42
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    MrDarcy wrote: »
    Anyone who breaks into my house will be leaving in a coffin, and as for the consequences, I'd rather be tried by twelve of my peers than carried by six.
    Thats the post of the day for me. :)


  • #43
    MadPatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭MadPatrick


    Rationally, I'd kike to say a knife in the throat before he even knows I'm there. Scumbag pals would be used to running when they see someone hurt.

    I know a guy who caught someone in his house, the first question the Garda asks the owner: Did you harm him??:mad:


  • #44
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,078 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I suppose if you decide to act with force you better make sure you kill him/her.
    "Dead men tell no tales," nor do they come back to exact revenge.


  • #45
    candy-gal1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,568 ✭✭✭candy-gal1


    This really freaks me out! I mean, if someone is on your property in your home or trying to get into your home uninvited and you dont know them then you should be allowed do whatever to protect yourself and your loved ones.
    Its like the ridiculous case a few years ago with the traveller breaking in to a guys house, the guy shoots him in defence, and he gets prosecuted?!
    I could go on lol , Sophie Lancaster being beaten up and killed by a bunch of scum for no reason other than being called Goth/mosher/or whatever, and yet some scanger who sniffs something up her nose is seen as a tragic accident!


  • #46
    Thoie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭Thoie


    MadPatrick wrote: »
    I know a guy who caught someone in his house, the first question the Garda asks the owner: Did you harm him??:mad:

    To which the correct response is "No guard, he was like that when I found him".

    My plan of action involves me locking the bedroom door (with me inside it), sitting with my back to the door, sobbing like a girl while calling the police.


  • #47
    brianthebard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    MadPatrick wrote: »
    Rationally, I'd kike to say a knife in the throat before he even knows I'm there.

    Man, another crazy ass Walter Mitty thread! What's with AH these days, is the heat making people extra angry and dumb or something?


  • #48
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    I'd rather force'em out of the house then leave'em lying in there...


  • #49
    Bonito
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,399 ✭✭✭Bonito


    I wonder what would happen if a garda's house was robbed while he was off duty and he woke in the middle of the night and gave the robber a good aul beat down.


  • #50
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    brianthebard wrote: »
    Man, another crazy ass Walter Mitty thread! What's with AH these days, is the heat making people extra angry and dumb or something?

    I think it was a colloquialism for 'hiding in the bedroom crying'.


  • #51
    Thoie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭Thoie


    Thoie wrote: »
    My plan of action involves me locking the bedroom door (with me inside it), sitting with my back to the door, sobbing like a girl while calling the police.
    brianthebard wrote: »
    Man, another crazy ass Walter Mitty thread! What's with AH these days, is the heat making people extra angry and dumb or something?


    Oh, my Walter Mitty answer is that I'd used my sekrit spy ninja skillz and leap down at them from the ceiling behind a door, then throttling them with their own shoelaces. At the same time I'd also be looking rather stunning in a figure hugging outfit.

    In the real world my answer still holds. Also, the figure hugging outfit might have a cloak.


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  • #52
    Magill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,732 ✭✭✭Magill


    I'll just let my 2 rottweilers and lab that patrole downstairs at night take care of the scumy bastards. If that fails i'd just go sam fisher on his ass.


  • #53
    Rockn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭Rockn


    CreepingDeath wrote: »
    Basically, treat burglars the way you would a wild animal trapped in your house.
    Throw a coat over him, carry him outside and release him into the wild. Not too near your house in case he comes back in.


  • #54
    landsleaving
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭landsleaving


    I dreamt my house was broken into last night, probably because I'm just getting new doors in upstairs after they were kicked in a few weeks ago by some braindead criminals who proceeded to ignore loads of valuable stuff to rob my guitar capo. Facepalm for you mr. moron.

    Anyways in my dream I see the guy doing it running away from the house, bag in hand, and chase him to his nearby house, then call the gards, who don't come. Brilliant. Dreams can be so real sometimes.

    Anyway, people should really give up thei rights upon breaking into anothers home, if they don't want to face the consequences, then don't rob anyone. I know the law is there to protect the homeowner from putting themselves in danger, but it seems to give more rights to the scumbag who just smashed through the window.

    Is it legal to put say, some broken glass on top of a side gate? That's always how they get in. Or am I setting out to hurt the bloke sneaking into my back garden by doing so? (In the eyes of the law) I would have thoguht it was simply a deterrent. It's not exactly a bear trap. (Ireland... ugh.)

    Oh and if someone tries to take my stuff, I'll leave them to it, it's insured, I'm not getting stabbed over a tv.

    But some things I own are irreplacable. Touch it, and violent rage ensues. (Leading to my untimely death most likely)

    Also stay the fcuk away from my bike, I've had 4 robbed in the last 3 years. Ireland hates cyclists and the gardai don't care about bikes. So I'll get vigilante at this stage if my latest bike is touched. By anyone. Even by accident. Even if I know them. Yeah I'm paranoid... yeah and I know you're reading this thinking, 'I'm gonna touch his bike.' I'LL KILL YOU!


  • #55
    AssaultedPeanut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 806 ✭✭✭AssaultedPeanut


    landsleaving wrote: »
    Is it legal to put say, some broken glass on top of a side gate? That's always how they get in. Or am I setting out to hurt the bloke sneaking into my back garden by doing so? (In the eyes of the law) I would have thoguht it was simply a deterrent. It's not exactly a bear trap. (Ireland... ugh.)

    I'm not sure of the legality but I see it a lot along the tops of walls and railings, on both private and business properties, so maybe it's ok to do that. If not, you could always play innocent and say it's to keep the pigeons or magpies off your gate/wall :p


  • #56
    Wossack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭Wossack


    hopefully the hall of mirrors, punji sticks, and bear traps will disuade any would-be burglers


  • #57
    m5ex9oqjawdg2i
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    brianthebard wrote: »
    I think you've half remembered an episode of the Simpsons.

    He is correct to an extent. It has something to do with the "living quaters" of the home. Where you and your family sleep. If somebody is in your bedroom, you may defend yourself, but do the same in the sitting room and you're in trouble ;)

    Fcuk the law in this case, the law is there to protect the person breaking into your home, to steal your belongings? I think not.


  • #58
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Levi Ripe Albacore wrote: »
    He is correct to an extent. It has something to do with the "living quaters" of the home. Where you and your family sleep.

    "I was in the bad books and the missus made me sleep on the couch, your honour"

    Simples.


  • #59
    Del2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,162 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    landsleaving wrote: »
    Is it legal to put say, some broken glass on top of a side gate? That's always how they get in. Or am I setting out to hurt the bloke sneaking into my back garden by doing so? (In the eyes of the law) I would have thoguht it was simply a deterrent. It's not exactly a bear trap. (Ireland... ugh.)
    It's illegal to do that. They are innocent till found guilty!
    Best way is beat them senseless, drag out to road and call an ambulance and say you saw someone fall on the road.


  • #60
    BehindTheScenes
    Closed Accounts Posts: 354 ✭✭BehindTheScenes


    run away get your gun and pop a cap in their ass.


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  • #61
    landsleaving
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭landsleaving


    Del2005 wrote: »
    It's illegal to do that. They are innocent till found guilty!

    Ireland, where law>logic.

    What does the law assume they might be doing other than trying to rob me? Plant potatoes in my garden?

    Either way it's trespassing, so if they're there at all... ah whats the point, you and everyone else knows this already! Just not the bloody government or gardai.


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