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[US/IRL] 6x17/18 - "The End" (2.5 Hour Series Finale) [** SPOILERS WITHIN **]
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9I thought that as well but as he said they were all special, each in their own way and I guess like the others walt may have been the strongest candidate of them all and maybe thats why he was so "special". But in fairness his ability was no better than Hurleys but i understand your frustration. I think i've spent my morning "letting go" and coming to grips with the ending, I gave it an 8 initially but I watched the last 6 minutes and it was very well done and i think it deserves a 10. Maybe, Vincent was something to do with Walt but unless the writers say it then its up to us to guess
The more I think about it and the more I read the more the episode is sitting right with me, the thing with Walt and Michael just jumps at me because its such an obvious piece of the jigsaw that hasn't really fallen into place with the way I am understanding the overall picture and I haven't read or thought of anything to satisfy my curiosity
I mean cool they are all special in their own way and that works because we get pay-offs for all of them but in Walt's case we don't which is hard to understand as at one stage he is put up as the most special one yet he doesn't feature in the end!
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9The more I think about it and the more I read the more the episode is sitting right with me, the thing with Walt and Michael just jumps at me because its such an obvious piece of the jigsaw that hasn't really fallen into place with the way I am understanding the overall picture and I haven't read or thought of anything to satisfy my curiosity I mean cool they are all special in their own way and that works because we get pay-offs for all of them but in Walt's cause we don't which is hard to understand as at one stage he is put up as the most special one yet he doesn't feature in the end!
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The way I look at it is Walt had some kind of psychic powers (or something like that!), which is why the others took the interest in him. But the reason that everyone was meeting up in the church was that the Island was the most important thing in their lives. Maybe Walt had something that happened in his life that was more important.
It was so important for Penny because of Des and her dad.0 -
78/10. thought they couldn't have ended it any other way. liked it but was a bit disappointed. good few unanswered questions. but it hasn't ruined the series for me (as some people think it did for them), but it never would have. i'd have been happy with any ending.
Joke
Person 1: Hi, i've got a problem with my island.
Person 2: Have you tried switching it off and on?
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Just been checking now. I don't think they're supposed to be wearin gthe same clothes as they wore in the plane crash. Jack for one is in different gear..
Plane crash
http://www.finger-jam.co.uk/fjw/wp-content/uploads/Lost-Series-1-Ep-1-2-Pilot-3.jpg
The End
http://abc.go.com/shows/lost/episode-guide?page=1
So is Kate, IIRC she was wearing an orangey top when the crash happened.
I was wrong to think that there was any connection between the clothes they were wearing at the time of the crash and at the end.
But Kate was wearing a black dress (etched into my memory
) when she walked to the church. But was wearing something different when she was in the church. 7.8kwp South facing, Slane.
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9so what did the button do?
what was the black smoke?
the others? and the china man. Who sent him and how did siead come back to life??
whats the criac with the darma thang.
why was mr Echo from series one not a part of the last show.
Total poo.
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This isn't a smart back-answer, out of my own interest I want to see if I answer these right.
(1) The button released pent-up electromagnetic energy at regular intervals from a catastrophic breach in the island's innards, that Dharma caused when drilling for the EM source. Basically, they punctured the "light cave" and couldn't seal it up totally. They had to relieve pressure every 108 minutes. They also had a failsafe to release it completely, if needed. I guess they preferred the button as the outcome was more certain. Also whoever turned the failsafe key developed some odd abilities, as our friend Des found out.
(2) The black smoke was an entity released from the cave when Jacob's brother, and possibly whenever anyone, was thrown into the light (maybe Jacob's mother too? She did cane an entire village and back-filled a deep well in moments). Way I see it, it was the opposite of the light, which makes sense in a show filled with opposites. It was evil. Maybe when you corrupt the light with a human body, it spits it back as this entity. It could mimick dead people's bodies, and it wanted badly to leave the island. It also seemed to retain the memories of anyone whose body it mimicked. I'm thinking it was composed primarily of carbon molecules suspended in an inert gas that could solidify whenever it wanted to hurl someone against a wall or uproot a tree
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(3) The Others: at any given point, Jacob's followers. In most of the 6 seasons they seemed to be organised as one mass and favoured the Temple as their home. A disperate group originally, coming from many different sources/shipwrecks/planes/submarines and coming together under one banner: protect the light. They also purged the bejaesus out of Dharma. They all had back-stories back in the real world, e.g. Richard. So really, the same as the Losties but with more direction and generally less value on human life.
(4) The China man was the lead scientist working for the Dharma initiative, and also Myles' pop. Who sent him? I guess Dharma recruited him and sent him to the island. He might have had a PhD on electromagnetic caves and their effects on the migration of polar bears.
(5) The light was life, death, rebirth. Water flowing through it carried its properties, so when Sayid was bathed in it he was reborn.
(6) Dharma: as someone else put it very well, a bunch of hippies who colonised the island and performed experiments on EM, and, curiously enough, polar bears and sharks (and maybe giant green birds?). I think we can infer that it's just a secret scientific foundation that somehow located the island and decided to explore its inner power. Anyway, they were cool and had a funky logo. Also a [EMAIL="bad-@ss"]bad-@ss[/EMAIL] submarine and barracks, which the Others subsquently appropriated (see Purge).
(7) Eko. I don't think Mr Eko is as important as people make him out to be. Just another interesting character in a whole show of characters. He wasn't part of the core group, and so probably moved on with some other people, e.g. his brother.0 -
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9how did the island disappear. and what was the big wheel thing underground that made it happen.
The donkey wheel channeled the water and the light. Stubbly man in black clothes explained this!
The problem is no explanation would be satisfying for this: e.g. the wheel induced a slow, localised rotation in the island's crust that warped space and time, dislocated it from its current position and inserted it at a different point in the timeline, because of the effect of mixing electromagnetic energy and water at that particular location in the Earth's magnetic field. The mathematics are complex but correct. It was frozen because of regular time travel, much like the DeLorean.
It really does only work as a mystery I'm afraid.
Did we ever question Castle Duckula?0 -
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Cant say I was overwhelmed or didn't see it coming. My misses made the call early on that the flash sideways stuff was some sort of limbo/purgatory.
She also made the call a few seasons ago that this would end with some shocker that they were dead. She was pretty spot on. Freaky.
Enjoyable series anyway, it got messy at parts in some series but made up for it in others. I thought the final episode was not a surprise at all.
Me and the misses, big fans, always played little joke wagers on what would happen. We were both pretty confident hurley would be the new jacob and jack wouldn't make it past his fight with loche.
It was annoying in the sense this flash sideways thing only appeared this series and it looked a real rush job, and after the first one you could pretty much assume what was going to happen in every other one.
There was a big lump in the throat moment for me when he genuinely realised he was dead, but other then that I havnt got great feelings about it.
Was a good show, and a decent ending, but not one that I think I'll re-watch or talk about much.
Now thats over, its time to get down to the final episode that really matters, with the only Jack that matters.
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