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Bad Parenting?

  • 24-05-2010 01:22AM
    #1
    davyjose
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭


    So we've just seen a 16 year old girl sail around the world solo, and now we have a 13 year old boy :eek: that's just climbed Everest!!!!!!

    Quite an impressive set of feats, there's no denying; these children are incredibly, precociously inspiring. But what about their fcuking parents?

    These kids had a pretty damn good shot at dying, at least as good as if their parents had given them a few E's, or let them head down to Limerick for the weekend. In fact, there are a multitude of things kids aren't allowed do, that are infinitely safer than what these kids did.

    Impressive as it is, are these parents right in the head? Should social services be round? Put it this way, if every parent set their kid off round the world, or up a hill that kills a large number of adults each year (that even while at the top, your body begins to quit living), would it still be acceptable? My guess is they'd all be jailed.


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  • #2
    Twee.
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,721 Mod ✭✭✭✭Twee.


    Well it's not as if they're any old kids having a shot in a boat or legging it up a mountain!
    Everest lad had a sherpa and has climbed many a big mountain before, like Kilamanjaro, so it says in the article linked.


  • #3
    bluto63
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭bluto63


    If I had to label the parents of either an athletic achiever who accomplished a feat no one else has or a drug taker whose dealer is their parents as bad parents I think I know what I'd go with


  • #4
    Dub13
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,264 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dub13


    What about the parents that let there kids sit in front of a X Box all day should the social services be called for them..?


  • #5
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    bluto63 wrote: »
    If I had to label the parents of either an athletic achiever who accomplished a feat no one else has or a drug taker whose dealer is their parents as bad parents I think I know what I'd go with

    Who?


  • #6
    bluto63
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭bluto63


    starbelgrade wrote: »
    Who?

    Have you tried E? It's a deadly buzz :pac:


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  • #7
    davyjose
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    bluto63 wrote: »
    If I had to label the parents of either an athletic achiever who accomplished a feat no one else has or a drug taker whose dealer is their parents as bad parents I think I know what I'd go with

    A glib and trivial denial of the actual peril these kids faced in their superamazing feats tbh!


  • #8
    bluto63
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭bluto63


    Both kids would be excellently trained in their field of expertise. They would of course know what they were doing before they even started.
    Sure you could say the same for parents who push their kids into rugby or football. They could receive a serious injury while playing, should they be considered bad parents?


  • #9
    Jesus Wept
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    davyjose wrote: »
    So we've just seen a 16 year old girl sail around the world solo, and now we have a 13 year old boy :eek: that's just climbed Everest!!!!!!

    Quite an impressive set of feats, there's no denying; these children are incredibly, precociously inspiring.

    There is.


  • #10
    davyjose
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    bluto63 wrote: »
    Both kids would be excellently trained in their field of expertise.

    An average of four people a year die attempting to climb Everest. These are also excellently trained people. The difference is, they're adults.

    I have a son if something he wished to undertake killed four of the most excellently trained people a year in that field, I would wait until he was at the peak of his physical/mental/emotional maturity before allowing him to proceed.

    I would not consider that moment to occur in his early teens!


  • #11
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    I'm not sure I'd let my kid sail round the world as a teen but parenting is like the economy on AH: every fucking bellend in the country has an opinion without experience,,,,


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  • #12
    peanuthead
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    davyjose wrote: »
    at least as good as if their parents had given them a few E's

    It's a bit different now in fairness


  • #13
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    stovelid wrote: »
    I'm not sure I'd let my kid sail round the world as a teen but parenting is like the economy on AH: every ****ing bellend in the country has an opinion without experience,,,,

    That's untrue, but I tell you what is true - any parent who lets a 16 year old girl sail around the world solo or lets a 13 year old boy climb Everest is a scumbag that should be locked up forever & have their reproductive organs removed to prevent them from ever having children again.














    :D


  • #14
    Jesus Wept
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    You don't require experience to have an opinion on aspects of parenting.
    A parent of 15 or 40 kids may have a lot of experience/the most experience but I'd have serious doubts about anyone who thought it wise to have so many.


  • #15
    stovelid
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    The-Rigger wrote: »
    You don't require experience to have an opinion on aspects of parenting.

    You do.

    If you don't: I'm not listening so don't answer?


  • #16
    Jesus Wept
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    stovelid wrote: »
    You do.

    END

    If you don't: I'm not listening?

    ...


  • #17
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    The-Rigger wrote: »
    ...

    ,,,,


  • #18
    davyjose
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    peanuthead wrote: »
    It's a bit different now in fairness

    I agree. They almost certainly wouldn't die, would experience no fear, pain, loneliness; would have an awesome time, and would be home and safe within 24 hours.

    Plus an E is a heeluva lot cheaper than a fcuking boat!!!


  • #19
    Jesus Wept
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    I see that now, you edited.

    Are you being serious?
    If so, you're mistaken. :)


  • #20
    sponsoredwalk
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    Them parents who let their kids do what they want, fcuking cnuts eh OP :rolleyes:

    Look what happens when we give kids the freedom to think & act, they go off and climb mountains and circle the world...

    This has to be stopped!


  • #21
    northern lights
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭northern lights


    Imo, without wanting to take away from their incredible achievements, at the end of the day they're still children (or in the case of the 16yr old a 'young adult) and I can't for the life of me understand a parent letting tham attempt these feats knowing so many other adults have died trying to do the same.

    For me personally, it''d be a complete no no until i felt they were both physically and mentally mature enough and no way would I let my child of 13 climb everest :eek:


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  • #22
    itsnotmyname
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 204 ✭✭itsnotmyname


    me and my 2 siblings were thrown out of the nest at 17 , when we finished school. It was the accepted norm that we would go out and find our own place in the world. It might seem old fashioned.......but we learned how to pay rent and bills .........I cant understand why folk would want their kids at home.........living off them ???


  • #23
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    The-Rigger wrote: »
    Are you being serious?
    If so, you're mistaken. :)

    Nope - I'm utterly deathly serious: Parenting is the one area of expertise that people on boards see fit to pontificate about with zero experience...


  • #24
    davyjose
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    stovelid wrote: »
    Nope - I'm utterly deathly serious: Parenting is the one area of expertise that people on boards see fit to pontificate about with zero experience...

    Politics?

    I've a kid, I've never ran for office. Which am I qualified to discuss?


  • #25
    DeVore
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    stovelid wrote: »
    Nope - I'm utterly deathly serious: Parenting is the one area of expertise that people on boards see fit to pontificate about with zero experience...

    Theres only one? :)


    Chill, this is a discussion, not a fight.

    Dev.


  • #26
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    DeVore wrote: »
    Theres only one? :)


    Chill, this is a discussion, not a fight.

    Dev.

    Fair enough.

    Not having a child shouldn't disqualify you from discussing parenthood.

    It's all about extrapolation.


  • #27
    It wasn't me!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    Are parents who encourage their kids to do other things, like play rugby, or go rock-climbing, or swimming in the ocean also bad parents? Not much in this world is entirely safe. Of those things, few enough rank among the most worthwhile out there. Kids can suffer injuries and die through a million different common circumstances, but most of them never have and never will. The willpower and drive the children in question have developed is a special thing which deserves only the greatest of praise. It's quite easy to tell the difference between parents who encourage their kids to great achievements (albeit with risk) and those who recklessly endanger their children.


  • #28
    davyjose
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    It wasn't me! wrote: »
    Are parents who encourage their kids to do other things, like play rugby, or go rock-climbing, or swimming in the ocean also bad parents? Not much in this world is entirely safe. Of those things, few enough rank among the most worthwhile out there. Kids can suffer injuries and die through a million different common circumstances, but most of them never have and never will. The willpower and drive the children in question have developed is a special thing which deserves only the greatest of praise. It's quite easy to tell the difference between parents who encourage their kids to great achievements (albeit with risk) and those who recklessly endanger their children.

    15 people have gone over Niagara Falls in a barrel. Ten have survived. Would you ascribe the same logic to a parent who allowed their child do that?


  • #29
    Glenster
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    It wasn't me! wrote: »
    Are parents who encourage their kids to do other things, like play rugby AWESOME?

    Yes........

    yes they are.


  • #30
    holystungun9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭holystungun9


    davyjose wrote: »
    An average of four people a year die attempting to climb Everest. These are also excellently trained people. The difference is, they're adults.

    I have a son if something he wished to undertake killed four of the most excellently trained people a year in that field, I would wait until he was at the peak of his physical/mental/emotional maturity before allowing him to proceed.

    I would not consider that moment to occur in his early teens!

    There will always be exceptions but as a general guide I agree with this guy


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  • #31
    Pherekydes
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    davyjose wrote: »
    Impressive as it is, are these parents right in the head? Should social services be round?

    Yes. The HSE do a great job of looking after teenagers.


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