Bullfighting - Yea or Nay?

It wasn't me! · 23-05-2010 03:40AM

filthymcnasty wrote: »

If your happy enough to eat beef who gives a **** what way cattle die. whinging about bullfighting is an exercise in futility (like ironing your underpants)

I dunno, I personally feel a duty of care to kill everything I kill cleanly and without suffering, because it's not something I want to be responsible for. Since I feel people don't get to absolve themselves of responsibility for the deaths of the animals they eat or the form thereof, I think they have a duty of care to only associate themselves with meat which is acquired humanely.

Ruu_Old · 23-05-2010 03:51AM

It's not a sport, just like horse racing isn't a sport. It is just sad, very sad and cruel.

filthymcnasty · 23-05-2010 04:19AM

It wasn't me! wrote: »

I dunno, I personally feel a duty of care to kill everything I kill cleanly and without suffering, because it's not something I want to be responsible for. Since I feel people don't get to absolve themselves of responsibility for the deaths of the animals they eat or the form thereof, I think they have a duty of care to only associate themselves with meat which is acquired humanely.

Unfortunately no livestock die without some suffering , it takes a few seconds but is suffering nonetheless: bullfighting only lingers this process.
We either accept man eats meat or we don't. (And for the most part we won't)

Man by nature is a carnivore ie meat eater
Cattle for food consumption die through an air bolt to the head and are slaughtered immediately. This sounds graphic- but is the nature of mass food production. Its our nature to consume meat and is unhealthy in the long term to deprive ourselves of such - despite vegetarian nonsense.

Tar.Aldarion · 23-05-2010 04:24AM

'hello, I don't know what I'm talking about'

--LOS-- · 23-05-2010 05:58AM

who said that

Tar.Aldarion · 23-05-2010 06:04AM

filthymcnasty wrote:

...unhealthy in the long term to deprive ourselves of such[meat] - despite vegetarian nonsense.

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--LOS-- · 23-05-2010 06:08AM

filthymcnasty wrote: »

Its our nature to consume meat and is unhealthy in the long term to deprive ourselves of such - despite vegetarian nonsense.

Damn I miss the stone age.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 23-05-2010 10:58AM

I'd fight 'Da Bull any day, fvck him and his poxy field.

UrbanSea · 23-05-2010 11:25AM

strobe wrote: »

If you want to fight a bull, I say go for it, go nuts. But don't cut a section off the bulls horns so it can't judge distance, don't dull the tips and wrap them in cloth, and either leave the sword at home or arm the bull aswell. I'm all for a fair fight. Infact I'd probably pay good money to see a genuine, unrigged fight, between a bull and a pathetic cuunt.

This post makes more sense than any I've seen in a long time.

PeakOutput · 23-05-2010 11:31AM

Ruu wrote: »

It's not a sport, just like horse racing isn't a sport. It is just sad, very sad and cruel.

why isnt horse racing a sport?

UrbanSea · 23-05-2010 11:40AM

Suppose greyhound racing isn't either,despite hundreds of years of specially breeding for speed,stamina and strength,horses can't be used for sport?

dasdog · 23-05-2010 12:18PM

I was once of the opinion it was a cruel spectacle. I was in Madrid one day (40+ degrees outside) and a fight came on tv which totally changed my opinion. It's not sport. It's an art albeit a bloody one.

23-05-2010 12:26PM

Splendour wrote: »

The majority of people in AH voted Pro Choice in the Abortion Poll but (so far) are against Bullfighting

Abortions are not carried out in a stadium for pleasure!
A bit like comparing a computer mouse to croke park, because a ball is involved.

HalloweenJack · 23-05-2010 12:38PM

I'm planning on going to a bullfight either today or tomorrow.

I want to see it before I make my mind up about it. It's intriguing but, at the same time, it does seem a bit pointless.

Also, some earlier on said it's "popular". It's not terribly. The majority of punters these days are over 60 and the feeling among younger generations is mostly disinterest. Catalunya, the second biggest province in Spain, has banned bullfighting and it will probably happen in other parts of the country sooner rather than later.

Indubitable · 23-05-2010 12:38PM

Ruu wrote: »

It's not a sport, just like horse racing isn't a sport. It is just sad, very sad and cruel.

Sport - "A game or competitive activity, especially an outdoor one involving physical exertion, e.g. cricket, football, racing, hunting."

I would have thought that at least horse racing if not bull fighting would fit this definition.

Indubitable · 23-05-2010 12:40PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Abortions are not carried out in a stadium for pleasure!
A bit like comparing a computer mouse to croke park, because a ball is involved.

unless you have an optic mouse

The Mad Hatter · 23-05-2010 12:47PM

starbelgrade wrote: »

Yea or Nay?

Finally! Someone gets it right!

mink_man wrote: »

its yay not yea.....

No it isn't.:mad:

Bullfighting: Nay.

Correct spelling of Yea: Yea.

Ruu_Old · 23-05-2010 01:05PM

PeakOutput wrote: »

why isnt horse racing a sport?

If you think beating the shite out of a horse to run around a track and betting on the outcome is sporting then good for you.

AnimalRights · 23-05-2010 01:05PM

I was linked to this thread by a bearded person, I'm not wading through all this as I'd end up getting banned but all I will say is b4 I post and never to return to thread.

Meat is Murder
Abortion is Murder
Bulmers Cider is fine

TY for your time.

super_furry · 23-05-2010 01:08PM

Went to one in Spain a couple of years ago while on holiday. The first one was interesting but after that they have six more and it just got really tedious.

Bullfighting might be traditional and/or evil, but it's definately boring.

super_furry · 23-05-2010 01:09PM

AnimalRights wrote: »

Bulmers Cider is fine

You've obviously never been afflicted by Bulmers Pear. Lock me in a small room with a dozen bulls before you make me drink that muck again.

AnimalRights · 23-05-2010 01:13PM

super_furry wrote: »

You've obviously never been afflicted by Bulmers Pear. Lock me in a small room with a dozen bulls before you make me drink that muck again.

Damn you got me back to the thread and er I did read it and yes I had the 'pleasure' of drinking a Pear cider in The Oval, twas ok but more like a mineral, it didn't feel like booze and at my age I need the taste of erm..booze.

RMD · 23-05-2010 01:28PM

From a steak lovers point of view it's a terrible sport. All that extra testosterone from the angered bull in the meat ruins the taste.

Otherwise, ye it's a good laugh to watch. I like it when the bull wins.

smellslikeshoes · 23-05-2010 01:43PM

filthymcnasty wrote: »

Man by nature is a carnivore ie meat eater
Cattle for food consumption die through an air bolt to the head and are slaughtered immediately. This sounds graphic- but is the nature of mass food production. Its our nature to consume meat and is
unhealthy in the long term to deprive ourselves of such - despite vegetarian nonsense.

This has been disproved many times. Vegetarians are in fact healthier than people who eat meat regularly. Frankly most meat eaters perceptions of vegetarian diets are misinformed at best.

irishconvert · 23-05-2010 01:50PM

It's a very cruel sport and the Matadors are cowards.

How I laughed when I read this (Warning, the video is not for the faint hearted):

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Matador-Julio-Aparicio-Gored-Through-Chin-During-Madrid-Bullfight/Article/201005415636589?lpos=World_News_Second_Home_Page_Feature_Teaser_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15636589_Matador_Julio_Aparicio_Gored_Through_Chin_During_Madrid_Bullfight

WaltKowalski · 23-05-2010 02:00PM

I think it's fine.

As above -
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/spanish_bullfighter_gored_by_bull_yOKdN1hvQorna2tjSkLhIP?photo_num=5

starbelgrade · 23-05-2010 02:01PM

The Mad Hatter wrote: »

Finally! Someone gets it right!

No it isn't.:mad:

Bullfighting: Nay.

Correct spelling of Yea: Yea.

I thought so too. I still got it wrong in the poll options though, doh.

rovert · 23-05-2010 02:02PM

Dont like the ground game meself

dubtom · 23-05-2010 02:08PM

Defo Nay for me. I had considered going to one while in Spain a while back purely for the photo's,but it was over €100 a pop. On a side note,I believe,that the meat of the bull is giving free to a local charity, well that was true for the one I'd considered. I just saw this morning the pics of the recent fight where the bull gave the Matador an oral examination,not a pretty sight, but then again,neither is a dead bull being dragged from the arena.

ColmDawson · 23-05-2010 02:13PM

speedboatchase wrote: »

I eat meat, wear leather (shoes, pants occasionally, obv) and get hungry if I see a cow but I still just find bullfighting unnecessarily cruel and barbaric.

tmmlol

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