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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,028 ✭✭✭✭--LOS--


    I love them too! I think the only one I ever had to turn off was Hostel, but that was more on account of its being ****. Not really one for the fake gun related activities or violent video games, but my mother does get upset when I play Grand Theft Auto (I literally haven't a clue what the point of the game is, I just drive along the footpath and mow motha****as doooown).

    I thought Hostel was ****t too, hadn't seen any of them at the time so then when I watched them afterwards couldn't understand what all the fuss was about.
    Not one for silleh fake gun related activities either :pac:
    Although I understand why people like them, just probably an addiction I could do without.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭StevoTG


    --LOS-- wrote: »
    hmm good point.

    But still it's like intention to kill versus actually killing, you may not have actually killed someone but the idea was there and you supported it. Something is actually getting killed in the fishing show and you are watching that but the ideas in movies come from real incidences too.

    Just talking out loud :/

    That's a fair point, and it's the sort of stuff I spend a fair bit of time thinking about actually. I'm not sure if either of you watched Buffy. But the episode where Angelus killed Jenny Calender and then used her body to set a magnificent/evil spectacle up for Giles afterwards is a classic episode which gives a great portrayal of 'evil', and was enjoyed by many people.

    I guess it's something that's not talked about often, the darker side of people and the enjoyment that people get from it.. but that's a bit of a more serious discussion. I prefer the more simple reasoning of Horror = Heart Racing = Fun


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭StevoTG


    I also thought Hostel was a pile of poop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭StevoTG


    I love them too! I think the only one I ever had to turn off was Hostel, but that was more on account of its being ****. Not really one for the fake gun related activities or violent video games, but my mother does get upset when I play Grand Theft Auto (I literally haven't a clue what the point of the game is, I just drive along the footpath and mow motha****as doooown).

    Haha, Grand Theft Auto is definitely not a game to play around people of certain generations.. it seems to be just too shocking for them :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,028 ✭✭✭✭--LOS--


    StevoTG wrote: »
    I guess it's something that's not talked about often, the darker side of people and the enjoyment that people get from it.. but that's a bit of a more serious discussion. I prefer the more simple reasoning of Horror = Heart Racing = Fun

    Never really watched Buffy.
    Everyone has their outlets, if people assumed bad of me for the music and movies I like they'd be sorely mistaken *halo*
    Taxi drivers have commented to me before that the people they pick up going to metal gigs/bars w/e are easy customers to deal with. I see it myself all the time, it's the people that don't have an outlet that have problems.

    grrrrrrrrrr :)


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,119 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    --LOS-- wrote: »
    hmm good point.

    But still it's like intention to kill versus actually killing, you may not have actually killed someone but the idea was there and you supported it. Something is actually getting killed in the fishing show and you are watching that but the ideas in movies come from real incidences too.

    Just talking out loud :/
    It's all the same really as long as it is not actively increasing the amount of deaths that are being caused etc I'm happy. get me my gun maaaaaw
    --LOS-- wrote: »
    I thought Hostel was ****t too, hadn't seen any of them at the time so then when I watched them afterwards couldn't understand what all the fuss was about.
    Not one for silleh fake gun related activities either :pac:
    Although I understand why people like them, just probably an addiction I could do without.
    /sends one of his css accounts to her


    ooops accident
    StevoTG wrote: »
    That's a fair point, and it's the sort of stuff I spend a fair bit of time thinking about actually. I'm not sure if either of you watched Buffy. But the episode where Angelus killed Jenny Calender and then used her body to set a magnificent/evil spectacle up for Giles afterwards is a classic episode which gives a great portrayal of 'evil', and was enjoyed by many people.

    I guess it's something that's not talked about often, the darker side of people and the enjoyment that people get from it.. but that's a bit of a more serious discussion. I prefer the more simple reasoning of Horror = Heart Racing = Fun

    Eh yeah, I watched buffy ;) and angel


    even the singing one :D




    jenny dying was sad, it was well done with using her against Giles etc
    Also didn't like Doyle dying. Loved those shows.

    Yeah sure we all have desires like that, I really enjoy violence, exhilaration and so on, it's why I did Karate/airsoft etc, we are animals and have a lot of instincts in us from our evolution. We are just learning more and more to control ourselves with reason as time goes on, we are improving gradually


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭StevoTG


    jenny dying was sad, it was well done with using her against Giles etc
    Also didn't like Doyle dying. Loved those shows.

    Yeah sure we all have desires like that, I really enjoy violence, exhilaration and so on, it's why I did Karate/airsoft etc, we are animals and have a lot of instincts in us from our evolution. We are just learning more and more to control ourselves with reason as time goes on, we are improving gradually

    I thought Angel was outstanding for a season and a half. After that there were a few great episodes but I think the show lost it's way, though it was showing signs of getting it back together before it got canned, and could probably have had a great season 6 and possibly even 7. Had things have worked out differently for Doyle/Glen Quinn then I think the show would have been better. I felt that Buffy maintained it's level for 3 or 4 years, and was a very good show.. but not as good as Angel :cool:
    As for the singing episode... no comment!

    Your last paragraph is pretty much spot on, though some would argue that we haven't really improved. I think there is progress to be seen anyhow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,028 ✭✭✭✭--LOS--


    I'm still trying to take his last paragraph seriously :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭StevoTG




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,119 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    StevoTG wrote: »
    I thought Angel was outstanding for a season and a half. After that there were a few great episodes but I think the show lost it's way, though it was showing signs of getting it back together before it got canned, and could probably have had a great season 6 and possibly even 7. Had things have worked out differently for Doyle/Glen Quinn then I think the show would have been better. I felt that Buffy maintained it's level for 3 or 4 years, and was a very good show.. but not as good as Angel :cool:
    As for the singing episode... no comment!

    Your last paragraph is pretty much spot on, though some would argue that we haven't really improved. I think there is progress to be seen anyhow.
    Ah i loved it all, I'm a crap critic, I even learned to love the singing one. I liekd the arc with buffy dying going to heaven, coming back and being numb...then doing spike just to feel something...wrong is right ;)

    I remember the one where she was invisible and they walk in on what looks like spike humping his bed hehe

    Progress is certainly made, slow process.
    --LOS-- wrote: »
    I'm still trying to take his last paragraph seriously :pac:
    :mad:
    StevoTG wrote: »
    Angelus was a nice little galway boy wasn't he

    he did the evil thing well


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭pq0n1ct4ve8zf5


    StevoTG wrote: »
    That's a fair point, and it's the sort of stuff I spend a fair bit of time thinking about actually. I'm not sure if either of you watched Buffy. But the episode where Angelus killed Jenny Calender and then used her body to set a magnificent/evil spectacle up for Giles afterwards is a classic episode which gives a great portrayal of 'evil', and was enjoyed by many people.

    I guess it's something that's not talked about often, the darker side of people and the enjoyment that people get from it.. but that's a bit of a more serious discussion. I prefer the more simple reasoning of Horror = Heart Racing = Fun

    Well a lot of the appeal of horror movies could be taking the unknown/horrifying and confronting it in a safe and enjoyable environment, kind of robbing it of its power to be truly frightening. It's interesting if you look at the way the genre changes as well, it started out with the monster typically coming from outside the community and being defeated by the established values of that society, usually science, and by an established hero archetype, usually morally unambiguous and incorruptible. Then as it evolves you get the monster as a product of the society/arising from within it, and being defeated only by a willingness to abandon certain values, usually by normal people having to resort to extreme violence, and/or the hero is morally ambiguous, has a dark past etc. It's an interesting genre to stuyd as well as being fun to watch.

    Yay arts degrees :pac:


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,119 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    taxpayers must love you :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,028 ✭✭✭✭--LOS--


    :eek: I just walked in on class :D


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,119 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Hi miss


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,028 ✭✭✭✭--LOS--


    sorry I was late, just had to collect my granny.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭pq0n1ct4ve8zf5


    taxpayers must love you :pac:

    Them and everyone else sure
    --LOS-- wrote: »
    :eek: I just walked in on class :D

    I had a module about horror in medieval literature and she spent the first two lectures talking about horror movies, old English lecturers trying to be hip with the kids are great, they have a bit of an inferiority complex about their subject a lot of the time, they rarely say "we are studying this because it is in itself a valid thing to study" they always say "this is relevant! It's like studying movies! There's lots of sex in it! You kids like sex don't you?!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭StevoTG


    Ah i loved it all, I'm a crap critic, I even learned to love the singing one. I liekd the arc with buffy dying going to heaven, coming back and being numb...then doing spike just to feel something...wrong is right ;)

    I remember the one where she was invisible and they walk in on what looks like spike humping his bed hehe

    Progress is certainly made, slow process.

    :mad:

    Angelus was a nice little galway boy wasn't he

    he did the evil thing well

    I suppose I may have been a bit harsh on Buffy then, the Spike angle was entertaining. Angel pulls off the evil thing very well, it's no wonder Boreanaz got his role in the movie Valentine.
    Well a lot of the appeal of horror movies could be taking the unknown/horrifying and confronting it in a safe and enjoyable environment, kind of robbing it of its power to be truly frightening. It's interesting if you look at the way the genre changes as well, it started out with the monster typically coming from outside the community and being defeated by the established values of that society, usually science, and by an established hero archetype, usually morally unambiguous and incorruptible. Then as it evolves you get the monster as a product of the society/arising from within it, and being defeated only by a willingness to abandon certain values, usually by normal people having to resort to extreme violence, and/or the hero is morally ambiguous, has a dark past etc. It's an interesting genre to stuyd as well as being fun to watch.

    Yay arts degrees :pac:

    I wouldn't know, I went with Science before dropping out. I do more studying now than I ever did when in school/college! Good post though.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,119 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    --LOS-- wrote: »
    sorry I was late, just had to collect my granny.
    Hope you had no problems with the seatbelt heh heh
    Them and everyone else sure



    I had a module about horror in medieval literature and she spent the first two lectures talking about horror movies, old English lecturers trying to be hip with the kids are great, they have a bit of an inferiority complex about their subject a lot of the time, they rarely say "we are studying this because it is in itself a valid thing to study" they always say "this is relevant! It's like studying movies! There's lots of sex in it! You kids like sex don't you?!"
    Hope there wasn't bonking too late in class.
    StevoTG wrote: »
    I suppose I may have been a bit harsh on Buffy then, the Spike angle was entertaining. Angel pulls off the evil thing very well, it's no wonder Boreanaz got his role in the movie Valentine.



    I wouldn't know, I went with Science before dropping out. I do more studying now than I ever did when in school/college! Good post though.

    Movie any good? I don't know it? Enjoyed him as Angel so could be a good watch.


    Yeah i'm sure I'll actually learn how to do my job after college


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,028 ✭✭✭✭--LOS--


    I had a module about horror in medieval literature and she spent the first two lectures talking about horror movies, old English lecturers trying to be hip with the kids are great, they have a bit of an inferiority complex about their subject a lot of the time, they rarely say "we are studying this because it is in itself a valid thing to study" they always say "this is relevant! It's like studying movies! There's lots of sex in it! You kids like sex don't you?!"

    Down with da kids eh.
    It's laughable the stuff they set up on open day in our place, load of gimmicky experiments with liquid nitrogen and the like, not taken in by it at all, maybe.
    StevoTG wrote: »
    I wouldn't know, I went with Science before dropping out. I do more studying now than I ever did when in school/college! Good post though.

    I have a lot of respect for people like that, sure a lot of time spent in college is working away from books on your own, college just gives you the validation a lot of the time. My dad never even sat his LC but just reads all the time and could fix anything.

    seatbelt fine thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭pq0n1ct4ve8zf5


    StevoTG wrote: »
    I wouldn't know, I went with Science before dropping out. I do more studying now than I ever did when in school/college! Good post though.

    I'd say I'll be doing that too, the reading load for most of my classes is massive, I strongly suspect it'd be impossible even if I didn't dedicate so much time and energy to dossing, always seem to be skimming through the indexes of books trying to find something relevant to an essay and thinking "ooh, that looks interesting, must go back to that some other time", but unless I've something due in the next few days I tend to avoid the library. I'll more than likely be jobless or at the very best working part time this summer, and living close to the library, was in a similar position last year and got loads of reading done so hopefully :D
    Hope there wasn't bonking too late in class.

    :p


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,119 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    I loved when my chemistry teacher in NUIG would throw liquid nitrogen around...more to get the class' attention than anything.

    Yeah they do that everywhere...they asked you to work out the new acceleration on an object through some magnetic pipe or something in ucd and posted a tshirt to my school, thanks guys...now I want to do science.


    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭StevoTG


    Movie any good? I don't know it? Enjoyed him as Angel so could be a good watch.

    I thought that Valentine was decent, and I'm glad that I watched it. I wouldn't call it a classic though, and clearly not many people would: Director Jamie Blanks later said in an interview, "Forgive me for [Valentine]. A lot of people give me grief for that, but we did our best."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭StevoTG


    I had a module about horror in medieval literature and she spent the first two lectures talking about horror movies, old English lecturers trying to be hip with the kids are great, they have a bit of an inferiority complex about their subject a lot of the time, they rarely say "we are studying this because it is in itself a valid thing to study" they always say "this is relevant! It's like studying movies! There's lots of sex in it! You kids like sex don't you?!"

    :D/:confused:
    I'd say I'll be doing that too, the reading load for most of my classes is massive, I strongly suspect it'd be impossible even if I didn't dedicate so much time and energy to dossing, always seem to be skimming through the indexes of books trying to find something relevant to an essay and thinking "ooh, that looks interesting, must go back to that some other time", but unless I've something due in the next few days I tend to avoid the library. I'll more than likely be jobless or at the very best working part time this summer, and living close to the library, was in a similar position last year and got loads of reading done so hopefully :D

    Sounds like a good summer to me! I felt pretty similarly in college, only I eventually stopped going turning up :D

    --LOS-- wrote: »
    I have a lot of respect for people like that, sure a lot of time spent in college is working away from books on your own, college just gives you the validation a lot of the time. My dad never even sat his LC but just reads all the time and could fix anything.

    seatbelt fine thanks

    Self education kicks a$$!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,119 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Just gonna go ..purchase... valentine now :D


    anybody see anything good lately, i still want to see iron man 2


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,028 ✭✭✭✭--LOS--


    I loved when my chemistry teacher in NUIG would throw liquid nitrogen around...more to get the class' attention than anything.

    Yeah they do that everywhere...they asked you to work out the new acceleration on an object through some magnetic pipe or something in ucd and posted a tshirt to my school, thanks guys...now I want to do science.


    :)

    My very first day in college involved making the E = mc^2 formulation out of people -_-

    :D I got a tshirt too!
    Just gonna go ..purchase... valentine now :D


    anybody see anything good lately, i still want to see iron man 2

    That was the last thing I saw in the cinema I think, liked it, don't think I've ever even seen the first one :confused:
    They are showing Blue Velvet in Stillorgan I think on June 2nd, won't be around but everyone else should go :D


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,119 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    What like you arranged them in the shape lol?

    /high five

    remember the principal calling me to the office ...was like aaaaah foook, what did I do this time and he gives me a science tshirt...I go back to a class of knackers...heh he has a science tshirt hehheheheh lets stab him.


    You'd probs like the first one, is good, I saw it on a ferry! Might consider that 20e a month ticket in the cineplex or whereever.

    What's blue velvet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,028 ✭✭✭✭--LOS--


    yep, I was half an equals.

    haha I remember the little rascals from the ferry.

    MPW-21636

    David Lynch!

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=66015442&postcount=260

    I think you'd love it.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,119 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Clearly stuck with you looking at your username.

    Eh, best picture ever. I'm fairly sold! And it's as old as me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭entropi


    Speaking of cinema I was at a showing tonight:D Went to see Cop Out (Bruce Willis) a comedy and yes it did make me laugh in a good way:) Was with fellow boardsie veggie friend (Tar she says we need to get chimichangas with her sometime soon ok):D So yeah fun times! Oh IM2 is a goood goood movie!

    Wait hold on a sec...that Blue Velvet as in 1980's or early 90's Blue Velvet? I think I seen that one...and if it IS the same one, damn you woman that's a bit risqué aint it? :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭StevoTG


    I've seen the 1986 Blue Velvet. Good film. Haven't seen the 90's film though.


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