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Joe Coleman on The Late Late Show

  • 21-05-2010 11:15PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭


    anyone here see the interview, and what's their opinion on it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭Onesimus


    branie wrote: »
    anyone here see the interview, and what's their opinion on it?

    I must say I gave it a fair listen and only got it half way through, but so far what I have seen and heard, I cant say I believe.

    He claims that Mother Mary gave him a date for second coming which was 2015, and yet nobody knows when the second coming will be, so that really drove it home for me. He also was pointing the finger at the young lady in the audience and was claiming that she was condemning him, when she was clearly just questioning what it was he was doing.

    The Church has also approached him and invited him in to have a look at him and talk to him about what he is feeling and he refused, thats a a big stumbling block for anyone who claims to believe in his claims.

    With all that said I feel its important that we pray for him and not make fun of him, and just get on with our Daily lives. Its important though that the Church at least make some sort of a statement warning the faithful as its quite clear that many are being led astray.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 toreadorx2001


    branie wrote: »
    anyone here see the interview, and what's their opinion on it?
    see through him like a sheet of glass , he says he doesn,t charge a fee . 2 friends of mine went to see him separetly and were told the same thing and were both charged 60 euros each! He said on the show about the second coming of Christ was immminent ,, said he was given no date and later said 2014 .... which is it ,,,, so , make up ur own mind about him , ive made mine up ! ....chancer !!!!!!!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭goat2


    i am thinking we may have another christine gallagher here
    not once during the interview with ryan tubridy , did he look at him during interview, he kept looking at floor,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 toreadorx2001


    goat2 wrote: »
    i am thinking we may have another christine gallagher here
    not once during the interview with ryan tubridy , did he look at him during interview, he kept looking at floor,
    Re Christine Gallagher, she is more shrewd and cunning than Joe Coleman , as in rich man , poor man


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭goat2


    Re Christine Gallagher, she is more shrewd and cunning than Joe Coleman , as in rich man , poor man
    she started like him
    she also wrote a book


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,581 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    The words self-delusional, messianic, egoistic and twat come to mind.

    If you are of the opinion that an all encompassing, all loving deity created this universe then you really don't need the likes of Christine Gallaghers or Joe O'Reilly acting as tour-guide.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 toreadorx2001


    The words self-delusional, messianic, egoistic and twat come to mind.

    If you are of the opinion that an all encompassing, all loving deity created this universe then you really don't need the likes of Christine Gallaghers or Joe O'Reilly acting as tour-guide.
    ur point is ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 toreadorx2001


    ur point is ??
    Defensive would be a word i would think morelike


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 218 ✭✭murraymarmalade


    see through him like a sheet of glass , he says he doesn,t charge a fee . 2 friends of mine went to see him separetly and were told the same thing and were both charged 60 euros each! He said on the show about the second coming of Christ was immminent ,, said he was given no date and later said 2014 .... which is it ,,,, so , make up ur own mind about him , ive made mine up ! ....chancer !!!!!!!!!!!
    your friends handed over 60 euro each to him:eek: well all i can say is there is 1 born every minute,fair play to you joe. keep reeling them in :) peace out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,517 ✭✭✭axer


    Where's everybody's faith all of a sudden?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭lmaopml


    Our Lady has made her message known to plead for people to turn to her son, it's her signature, and always has been as a special Christian, the very first ever Christian!.... it's never about her, it's always about the first Christian pointing the way to the ultimate Christian....I am always 'dubious' of any claims and see no harm when it just calls people to 'prayer'....However, I don't understand why Our Lady would impart 'end of days' advice to Joe...especially when mass was being celebrated about 20ft away at the same time...


    Sorry, but no..I hope the guy is 'ok' and finds peace, but he has no message I need..

    There are so many charlatans these days it's hard to fathom what is harmless to what is really harmful testimonies..

    It makes me glad that I know myself. It's always good to know yourself first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 toreadorx2001


    your friends handed over 60 euro each to him:eek: well all i can say is there is 1 born every minute,fair play to you joe. keep reeling them in :) peace out.
    u are so right Marmalade , but i only hope people can see through the charade from the Late Late Show tonite


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 218 ✭✭murraymarmalade


    u are so right Marmalade , but i only hope people can see through the charade from the Late Late Show tonite
    yeah in fairness,like has been said here,he stared at the floor when talking to ryan and what the hell did he say about his teeth bieng pulled down by the devil?:eek:

    i dont know what else to say about him,probably best for me to just read the comments.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,581 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    ur point is ??
    Self evident.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 373 ✭✭ocokev


    He claimed to be the new Padre Pio, we want blood Joe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭Onesimus


    lmaopml wrote: »
    Our Lady has made her message known to plead for people to turn to her son, it's her signature, and always has been as a special Christian, the very first ever Christian!.... it's never about her, it's always about the first Christian pointing the way to the ultimate Christian....I am always 'dubious' of any claims and see no harm when it just calls people to 'prayer'....However, I don't understand why Our Lady would impart 'end of days' advice to Joe...especially when mass was being celebrated about 20ft away at the same time...


    Sorry, but no..I hope the guy is 'ok' and finds peace, but he has no message I need..

    There are so many charlatans these days it's hard to fathom what is harmless to what is really harmful testimonies..

    It makes me glad that I know myself. It's always good to know yourself first.

    When looking at a potential Prophet, one has to look for contradictions in what they say and measure it with a yardstick to see if it complies with the faith. One also has to look at the fruits, Poverty chastity and obedience to the Church, so far the Church has invited him in for investigation on his claims and he refused it.

    He also complains a lot about the anti spirit of the media, and even went mad at the young lady and told her that she was condemning him when she quite clearly wasnt, I dont think that this thread could expand much on a conversation upon Joe. he also used the words I predicted, when its Our Lady or our Lord who such predictions should be attributed to.

    I dont think it was fair for the Media to invite him on the late late show, the man quite clearly needs help and I feel that such an appearance only opened the gates to make fun of him and to ''make good telly''.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭lmaopml


    It doesn't matter in the big scheme of things really...but yep, that's the general thrust....It's up to truthful personal reflection at the end of the day..

    I don't really care for Joe, but 'Our Lady' yeah..she deserves imitation....she was some kind of lady!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭Onesimus


    lmaopml wrote: »
    It doesn't matter in the big scheme of things really...but yep, that's the general thrust....It's up to truthful personal reflection at the end of the day..

    I don't really care for Joe, but 'Our Lady' yeah..she deserves imitation....she was some kind of lady!

    Well, you should care for Joe, he is a beloved Child of Our Lady whom she loves very much, so you should certainly be compassionate towards him and give him your prayers. He will certainly be in mine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 425 ✭✭barrackali


    Poor Joe, why isn't he in a special place where he could avail of some god dam needed treatment?

    RTE must be totally broke if they had to bring a nutter like him on the show.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,076 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    But in his head its all true! The poor man is obviously delusional, he sounds like a throw-back to some medieval soothsayer, predicting all manner of visions related to Our Lady, and various saints, angels, and even Jesus himself ! (Joe should not be on prime time Television).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,418 ✭✭✭JimiTime


    I think he's half fraud and half nuts. The RCC reap what they sow with these guys.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    Camelot wrote: »
    But in his head its all true! The poor man is obviously delusional, he sounds like a throw-back to some medieval soothsayer, predicting all manner of visions related to Our Lady, and various saints, angels, and even Jesus himself ! (Joe should not be on prime time Television).

    Dare I open a can of worms here?

    If we are to understand that Joe Coleman is mistaken, we need to ask ourselves, how is Joe Coleman mistaken in a way that Biblical figures who had visions such as Jacob, Daniel, Paul the Apostle and so on weren't?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭iUseVi


    Jakkass wrote: »
    Dare I open a can of worms here?

    If we are to understand that Joe Coleman is mistaken, we need to ask ourselves, how is Joe Coleman mistaken in a way that Biblical figures who had visions such as Jacob, Daniel, Paul the Apostle and so on weren't?

    Can of worms?! That's a slippery slope that leads to my world. I'll welcome you with cake when you arrive. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    Asking the question doesn't mean that you'll be welcoming me. Although, I do enjoy cake :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭iUseVi


    Jakkass wrote: »
    Asking the question doesn't mean that you'll be welcoming me. Although, I do enjoy cake :pac:

    It has a cherry on top. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭Onesimus


    JimiTime wrote: »
    I think he's half fraud and half nuts. The RCC reap what they sow with these guys.

    Jimi, what are you on about, the RCC are to blame for people like Joe? cop yourself on man, and take a look at all the mad evangelical headcases roaming the world making bold claims and creating cults and sects.

    Not just Christians but there are tonnes of sects of all different types of religions making bold claims.

    These are the false teachers and prophets of the last days, easy to recognise and unfortunately just something we have to put up with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,418 ✭✭✭JimiTime


    Onesimus wrote: »
    Jimi, what are you on about, the RCC are to blame for people like Joe?

    Partly. They have much more blame in terms of the people who think he's genuine.
    cop yourself on man,

    What can I say, its a very flawed institution. Like many/all religions. This is one particular byproduct of one of its flaws. I understand devout catholics are very precious about their institution, but I call it like I see it.
    and take a look at all the mad evangelical headcases roaming the world making bold claims and creating cults and sects.

    And?
    Not just Christians but there are tonnes of sects of all different types of religions making bold claims.

    And? Have I said anything to the contrary?
    These are the false teachers and prophets of the last days, easy to recognise and unfortunately just something we have to put up with.


    What about Fatima or Lourdes? What makes them different? Or do you believe that was nonsense too? We have a load of people in a field here claiming that Joe Coleman is the real deal, whats the difference? If he hapened to live before the media age, would he be in the same class as Bernadette et al?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 425 ✭✭barrackali


    JimiTime wrote: »
    Partly. They have much more blame in terms of the people who think he's genuine.



    What can I say, its a very flawed institution. Like many/all religions. This is one particular byproduct of one of its flaws. I understand devout catholics are very precious about their institution, but I call it like I see it.



    And?


    And? Have I said anything to the contrary?



    What about Fatima or Lourdes? What makes them different? Or do you believe that was nonsense too? We have a load of people in a field here claiming that Joe Coleman is the real deal, whats the difference? If he hapened to live before the media age, would he be in the same class as Bernadette et al?

    He would have been locked up in a mental asylum....face it man, the guy is a headcase.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭lmaopml


    Gosh, I don't understand why people don't really get why Our Lady would play a part in Christianity. It's weird to think that she would have no part whatsoever, like so many saints, but she was the very 'first' Christian, the one who said 'yes', the new 'Eve' and likewise, the church itself is skeptical too of such claims, and as to whether they are true claims or no..

    Medjugoria has daily phenomena, but it isn't recognised..perhaps because we shouldn't need the fantasic these days, it's enough to know how precious we are really...and of course to investigate the message....

    Joe is starting off on the backfoot, like all faithful, but 'Bernadette' and the children of Fatima have had so much to go through to commit themselves that I can't understand why anybody would not believe them over others who have been moved by faith, or have been prophets, actually, it's more likely it would be children to my mind..

    I often find it equally weird when it's reported that Catholics believe that Our lady is the focal point; as in our saviour....huh? not in any class I've ever attended, even when I couldn't have cared less and was agnostic/atheist......we only ever asked her to pray for us..

    She is the Mother of Christianity and one of the commandments is to honour our mother and father...I imagine Jesus has a special place in his heart for the 'human' mother of his church that made his coming so profoundly free willed....

    Perhaps it strikes a chord to have a mother and father, in so far as our faith is concerned, but I really don't get why Our Lady is written off as a Catholic phenomena, or even that she is placed above the saviour which is something I was never taught even when I was agnostic..lol...

    As a female, I think she is awesome, and a wonderful mother..it doesn't diminish my faith in Jesus, it just makes his coming more 'real'...having a mother.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 425 ✭✭barrackali


    lmaopml wrote: »
    Gosh, I don't understand why people don't really get why Our Lady would play a part in Christianity. It's weird to think that she would have no part whatsoever, like so many saints, but she was the very 'first' Christian, the one who said 'yes', the new 'Eve' and likewise, the church itself is skeptical too of such claims, and as to whether they are true claims or no..

    Medjugoria has daily phenomena, but it isn't recognised..perhaps because we shouldn't need the fantasic these days, it's enough to know how precious we are really...and of course to investigate the message....

    Joe is starting off on the backfoot, like all faithful, but 'Bernadette' and the children of Fatima have had so much to go through to commit themselves that I can't understand why anybody would not believe them over others who have been moved by faith, or have been prophets, actually, it's more likely it would be children to my mind..

    I often find it equally weird when it's reported that Catholics believe that Our lady is the focal point; as in our saviour....huh? not in any class I've ever attended, even when I couldn't have cared less and was agnostic/atheist......we only ever asked her to pray for us..

    She is the Mother of Christianity and one of the commandments is to honour our mother and father...I imagine Jesus has a special place in his heart for the 'human' mother of his church that made his coming so profoundly free willed....

    Perhaps it strikes a chord to have a mother and father, in so far as our faith is concerned, but I really don't get why Our Lady is written off as a Catholic phenomena, or even that she is placed above the saviour which is something I was never taught even when I was agnostic..lol...

    As a female, I think she is awesome, and a wonderful mother..it doesn't diminish my faith in Jesus, it just makes his coming more 'real'...having a mother.

    So what is your view of Joe, do you actually believe that nutter?


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