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Katy French "will not get justice" - tabloid headline?!!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,267 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Is that that Living magazine? I once read an article about how all young people are promiscuous... They must have actually spent weeks searching the country for the two sluttiest trampiest girls they could find so they could generalise their experience onto the whole country.

    Sad thing is the Sindo itself is no better.

    remember the sindo, had gathered together about 8 young people male and female and made them basically the face of Celtic Tiger Ireland....
    every week an even more braindead article than the previous. I remember cringing every week.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 417 ✭✭muffy


    Is that that Living magazine? I once read an article about how all young people are promiscuous... They must have actually spent weeks searching the country for the two sluttiest trampiest girls they could find so they could generalise their experience onto the whole country.

    Sad thing is the Sindo itself is no better.

    It is nothing but a red top for the the bourgeoisie.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Heard some people talking about what a tragedy it was that such a talented girl died so early in life, and how were it not for the pressures of celebrity and evil gangsters she would still be alive. I burst out laughing, the only tragedy in the whole Katy French debacle is that a glorified coke whore is being touted as some martyr who evil dealers preyed upon. She took drugs of her own free will and while no one deserves to die anyone whom regularly consumes drugs is aware of dangers of doing so. It was her own fault she died and were it you or I whom did so I guarantee that we wouldn't receive a fraction of the sympathy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 417 ✭✭muffy


    I wonder if it is a case of people being shocked because
    and/or
    people like Katy French thinking


    OMG LOLS LIKE dying from drugs is for poor people... ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭aDeener


    stovelid wrote: »
    A little perspective might help.

    A "cokehead" who dies of an overdose certainly doesn't rerquire "justice", and it's galling that celebrities are deigned to be more worthy of comment than the Hoi Polloi but nor do they particularly warrant Joe Duffyesque "they got theirs" gloating about an overdose.

    She was a drug user - there are plenty worse people out there.

    And statistically speaking, speeding, burgers, smokes or pints are more likely to kill you so there are a lot of people culpable for their own deaths out there.

    hardly


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭aDeener


    remember the sindo, had gathered together about 8 young people male and female and made them basically the face of Celtic Tiger Ireland....
    every week an even more braindead article than the previous. I remember cringing every week.

    theres your problem, should have stopped reading it ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    aDeener wrote: »
    hardly
    It's a general nod towards unhealthy eating habits, I assume.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭aDeener


    Pace2008 wrote: »
    It's a general nod towards unhealthy eating habits, I assume.

    even at that i would be highly sceptical of the claim that over indulging in junk food is more damaging than over indulging on cocaine


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    aDeener wrote: »
    even at that i would be highly sceptical of the claim that over indulging in junk food is more damaging than over indulging on cocaine
    Assuming, again, that this is occasional recreational cocaine use as opposed to chronic addiction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,852 ✭✭✭✭blueser


    foxyboxer wrote: »
    John Waters wrote this claptrap after her death. It's tragic for families but seriously this extract is not meant to be funny, but I just think it's hilariously deluded. :pac: I mean what? Did she cure cancer or something?


    "She had a beauty that suggested itself as emanating from an infinity within. She seemed to believe anything was possible and her smile convinced you, for an instant, that she was right. I wanted her dreams to come true. She was a child. She was my daughter and Eoghan’s daughter and Eamon’s daughter and Pat’s daughter and Bertie’s daughter. She was your daughter, your little sister. She was a child of Ireland in the time of its rebirth."

    "Katy French was a personification of our fantasies, of our sense of what we were becoming, of how we might unfold ourselves. She was not the only one, but in the immediate past was perhaps the most spectacular light on the skyline, a meteorite of desire plummeting through the Irish zeitgeist… Katy had found a way of being that promised her it could slake all her human cravings. She had manoeuvred herself into a position where everything humanly desirable seemed to be within reach, and was careering forward on the path opening up in front of her. She did not, other than literally, die of whatever it will say on her death certificate. She died of desire, of being utterly human."
    I hadn't seen that piece of journalism before. Seriously; how could Waters have kept a straight face when typing that up? That is embarrassingly awful. Is he related to her?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭aDeener


    Pace2008 wrote: »
    Assuming, again, that this is occasional recreational cocaine use as opposed to chronic addiction.

    well then thats not comparing like with like. it should be chronic cocaine v. chronic junk food or occasional junk food v. occasional cocaine.

    either way i cant fathom how the junk food could be worse


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    PeterIanStaker, you should be ashamed of yourself calling Katy French a supermodel.

    She was an Irish Promotions Girl.

    I stand corrected.

    Also, having read Waters' piece I damn near vomited. At least he wasn't trying to get into her pants by writing it (although you never know . . .)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Pace2008 wrote: »
    It's a general nod towards unhealthy eating habits, I assume.

    True.

    I'm sorry if people assumed I meant deaths attributed to attacks by man-eating burgers and the like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    OP a little bit of compassion wouldn't go amiss....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Yeah, but... John Waters' article! Pahahahahahahahaha!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Dudess wrote: »
    Yeah, but... John Waters' article! Pahahahahahahahaha!

    Still, proves he's not a misogynist I suppose ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭schween


    I can't believe they're still going on about this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 431 ✭✭havetoquit


    Just seen it walking out of a newsagents, might have been the Star or Sun. Here's the actual story in the Independent:

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/katy-drug-probe-man-evades-jail-term-2184704.html

    Seriously though, she wasn't murdered and took drugs of her own choice - what "justice" does a coke junkie who had an overdose deserve? :eek:

    With respect, I find your comment lacks humanity and I truly do not believe that any addict whether it be of drugs/alcohol/cigarettes/medications actually choose to be addicts and are to be pitied for their lack of self control,their own self-esteem, feelings of unworthiness, depression, isolation etc etc. Ok they don't all fall into this category, but they have my compassion, for it is easy to see that their lives are lacking any value to them and they desperately seek a way to feel good, if only for a while. I have worked with drug users of all categories and many thankfully became clean and are living good lives. I also met many who came from what would be perceived as a priveledged background. But it helped her little, as she was left with various nannies, au pairs etc and was well aware that her parents used their money as substitue for their love and time which she craved. She died at 19 in her Uni bedroom from an overdose of cocaine. Her note spoke the words of so many others like her. So no, I do not judge a drug addict ever. I have not right to. I keep my despise for the peddlars. They are the most evil of all and with apparently no conscience about their actions whatsoever. I know it is very very difficult to understand any addict and their aparrent unwillingness to stop, get clean, lead a normal life, but it is not quite that simple. What we must not lose sight of is that these people did not begin using with the thought and knowledge of becoming addicted. Like alcohol and other stimulants, they thought they were in control of it and not the other way around. Please understand that this is just my own take on the problem and not a view I wish to convince others is the correct one. You are entitiled to your view and I respect that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭Gunsfortoys


    Dudess wrote: »
    Yeah, but... John Waters' article! Pahahahahahahahaha!


    FFS between him and Paul Martin for The Mirror, culture gets dumbed down ever so hugely.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    OP a little bit of compassion wouldn't go amiss....

    as abstention did


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 431 ✭✭havetoquit


    Ps Apologies to all reading the above for all the typos and grammatical errors. Makes hard reading I know, but my little dog insisted on pawing the keyboard as I wrote, so could not concentrate. Will have to teach him to type if this keeps up!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 103 ✭✭celtic Liger


    the only ones looking for justice are literally her family and if they are anyway educated at all they will realise that there will be no justice, regardless of arrests, prosecutions and or tabloid newspaper articles. no prosecution will bring her back. she played the game, very well, and lost in the end. we all lose in the end, some sooner then others.

    the guy who wrote the article couldnt give a ****, nor could his editor, nor could the majority of the morons that choose to read these papers, be it front cover only or front to back. these type of journalists are the real scum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 431 ✭✭havetoquit


    Agree. For an articulate jounalist like Waters, that is a neauseating piece of twaddle and did not deserve the space it got on paper.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 502 ✭✭✭Anna Molly


    The girl took coke. :rolleyes:
    Fu*k off and get over it already:mad:

    I could be angry all day that my friend stupidly was speeding when he clearly shouldn't have because he's dead. Well there's no point in that, he made a stupid decision and he's not coming back.
    Would people ever just fuc*k off.
    Don't blame her dealer, or her circle of friends. She was a smart girl who made the decision to play with drugs and it ended badly. Slap her corpse if you wish, it's no one elses fault.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭Gunsfortoys


    Anna Molly wrote: »
    The girl took coke. :rolleyes:
    Fu*k off and get over it already:mad:

    I could be angry all day that my friend stupidly was speeding when he clearly shouldn't have because he's dead. Well there's no point in that, he made a stupid decision and he's not coming back.
    Would people ever just fuc*k off.
    Don't blame her dealer, or her circle of friends. She was a smart girl who made the decision to play with drugs and it ended badly. Slap her corpse if you wish, it's no one elses fault.


    Think unsexy thoughts...think unsexy thoughts.;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 522 ✭✭✭KevinVonSpiel


    Whenever I think of Katy French, I think of a Celtic Tiger Dublin/Meath version of this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUgaqNL0tTw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 431 ✭✭havetoquit


    So very sorry about your friend and you have every right to be angry. Think that they both deserve to rest now and perhaps as you suggested, we should leave the subject alone. It does no good to dwell on it now anyway. There are so many other injustices in the world that we could also be angry about, but hey, it's late guys and perhaps we should start a chat about something more uplifting. I was on nights last night so not in the least sleepy and that explains why I am on here writing such utter drivvle to drive you all up the wall and down again! Let's hope the sun keeps shining here in Wexford tomorrow and also elswhere I hope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭beanyb


    havetoquit wrote: »
    Agree. For an articulate jounalist like Waters, that is a neauseating piece of twaddle and did not deserve the space it got on paper.

    I would argue that his articles never deserve the space they get in the newspaper. This was a particularly over the top one, but he's not generally much better.

    Anyway, I saw this headline in a shop earlier and rolled my eyes. Justice my arse. She took drugs and died. She was young. It was sad. She didnt deserve to die. But she wasnt a victim in this. She made the decision to shove a load of coke up her nose. There is nobody out there who deserves punishment for her death.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    havetoquit wrote: »
    So very sorry about your friend and you have every right to be angry. Think that they both deserve to rest now and perhaps as you suggested, we should leave the subject alone. It does no good to dwell on it now anyway.
    We'd have forgotten about her years ago if the media hadn't persisted in exhuming her fetid corpse every two weeks for yet another non-story.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 967 ✭✭✭Jigga


    Although she helped fund the drug gangs by taking coke she paid the biggest price for the mistakes she made and there's no need for such venom in talking about her in my opinion. Maybe her death will show young people the dangers of drug use, probably not though.

    That article in the Sun today was vomit enducing though, they made that lad out to be a murderer when he was nothing of the sort


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